OLL's when to learn/?

[noobcuber]

Hi as you can see belwo in my signature my times and average and method.
I was wondering what time I should be getting before I learn the OLL's

and also how long considering my average shoul PLL take for me?

Hi I am now averaging 37 secs

and cross 3 secs

F2L 20-25 secs

OLL 5 secs

PLL 5-10

 

[Faz]

I think you should be averaging at least sub 30 before you start learning OLL.

I average around 30 ( i need to update my sig) and i don't even know half the PLL's.

You should definitely improve your pll recognition and turning speed. !!! 10 seconds for 1 alg!!!

Also, get your F2L times down to consitant sub 20 before moving on to 2LLL

 

[PCwizCube]

I agree with fazrulz - consistently average below 30 seconds before attempting to learning all the OLLs.

A 3 second cross is pretty good
Your F2L needs work - try to do it under 20 seconds consistently
OLL is good
PLL needs a lot of work on recognition and execution -get them all under 5 seconds consistently

Learning all the OLLs will only drop your times by like 3 seconds if you do them really fast. If you work on your PLL and F2L, you can cut 20+ seconds if you do them very well, and you don't need to learn any additional algorithms. For your cross, improving it will only help you about a second, so work on your PLL and F2L.

 

[Lofty]

If you learn OLL + PLL then when you do solves you will be practicing your F2L and your newly learned LL algs at the same time. I say learn em whenever you want.

 

[brunson]

You don't have to learn all of them at once. I first learned the 7 edges oriented OLLs, then, since no edges oriented would require a 3 look OLL, learned the 8 no edges oriented.

But, seriously, I know all my OLLs and you're already slightly faster than me. Listen to the others who recommend work on your PLLs and F2L to get faster.

 

[badmephisto]

There are some REALLY easy OLLs there that will take you literally below a minute to memorize. Learn those as fast as possible. The ratio of how much it helps you to how much time you invested in learning it is very beneficial. There are also some OLLs that are hard and/or long. Learn those when all PLLs are done.

 

[Ewks]

I agree that you shouldn't learn the OLL's yet. Work on your F2L and PLL before that and then after you have nothing else to improve learn the OLL's.
You could learn the edges oriented algs now, but I don't think that it will lower your times much.
I average around 20's and my OLL times are only about second faster than your's.

 

[*LukeMayn*]

WOW your F2L and PLL are a real let down.
I recommend doing PLL time attacks (A LOT) and also for F2L, scramble the cube, do the cross then do timed F2L. They both help a lot, my first time attack was 2.xx.xx but now I average for the time attack 1.4x.xx in about one day of practising My F2L used to be like yours but I occasionally do F2L practise like I recommended and now it avgs. around 14.xx

 

[ExoCorsair]

I average sub-20 and still don't know all the OLLs.

Like everyone else said, you should aim for faster F2L and PLL first. There isn't really any reason to have PLLs take longer than 5 seconds if you practice fingertricks and learning good algorithms.

 

[brunson]

Some of the OLLs I know only save maybe two moves over a 2 look OLL, but they eliminate the recognition time between the two looks. There are some really easy wins to pick up by recognizing that if you do your standard (F R U R' U F) in one orientation rather than another that you'll end up with a completed OLL.

 

[*LukeMayn*]

I average sub-20 and still don't know all the OLLs.

Like everyone else said, you should aim for faster F2L and PLL first. There isn't really any reason to have PLLs take longer than 5 seconds if you practice fingertricks and learning good algorithms.

In your sig it says WCA profile, you can now put that under your name incase you didn't know