[Official] Marc Waterman still got it! 19 secs

[somerandomkidmike]

He needs to work on the transition between his first layer corners and his edges. It's really quite cool that he can still be this good after not actively speedcubing.

 

[Erik]

lol he doesn't need to work on anything. He doesn't have the ambition to practice and become fast. He just likes to solve a few cubes sometimes.

 

[TheAwesomeAlex]

Why is he using a phone as a timer when there is a stackmat timer on the table?

 

[Rune]

The Waterman method is regarded as a corner first method. But the very essence of this method is to do the first layer followed by Cll and then the rest. I myself solve the cube after the same ideas but build the first layer beginning with the edges instead of corners. I strongly believe that the move count of the first layer in this case is lower than if beginning with the corners. Is that still regarded as Waterman?

 

[Erik]

TheAwesomeAlex: Cuz I didn't have batteries with some juice xD
Rune: who is to say what Marc thinks is still the method or not? Btw he was kinda surprised that we call it 'Waterman method' since he developed it with Daan Krammer.

 

[somerandomkidmike]

lol he doesn't need to work on anything. He doesn't have the ambition to practice and become fast. He just likes to solve a few cubes sometimes.

I was joking around. I'm aware that he's not actively speedcubing anymore.

The Waterman method is regarded as a corner first method. But the very essence of this method is to do the first layer followed by Cll and then the rest. I myself solve the cube after the same ideas but build the first layer beginning with the edges instead of corners. I strongly believe that the move count of the first layer in this case is lower than if beginning with the corners. Is that still regarded as Waterman?

I believe this is still the Waterman method. I use blockbuilding for the first layer. Sometimes it's faster to solve the corners first, and I'll take that route. I basically use whichever way seems the fastest to me.

Edit: I think it's probably called the Waterman Method because that's what Josef Jelinek called it by that name on rubikscube.info. That seems to be where most people get information on the Waterman method.

 

[Rune]

" I use blockbuilding for the first layer. Sometimes it's faster to solve the corners first, and I'll take that route. I basically use whichever way seems the fastest to me"

Why not test "edges first" then? 14.5(?) STI moves in average for the first layer.

 

[Carson]

If you will notice how long it took him to start/stop the timer; it was more like an :18.

 

[Kirjava]

Why not test "edges first" then? 14.5(?) STI moves in average for the first layer.

blockbuilding has a lower movecount average

 

[Sajwo]

very interesting fingertricks is that a "waterman" method?

 

[somerandomkidmike]

" I use blockbuilding for the first layer. Sometimes it's faster to solve the corners first, and I'll take that route. I basically use whichever way seems the fastest to me"

Why not test "edges first" then? 14.5(?) STI moves in average for the first layer.

Why not solve corners and edges at the same time when it's possible? I just do a "whatever is fastest" First layer.

blockbuilding has a lower movecount average

^ That is basically the reasoning.

very interesting fingertricks is that a "waterman" method?

Yes, the 80s style fingertricks are quite cool. The Waterman method is described here.
http://rubikscube.info/waterman/index.php