Let WCA allow the Dayan color cubes

[Micael]

Michael, I think I got an option for you. These cubes are allowed for Multiple Blindfolded and may be for 3x3x3BLD too (not sure about the later). So here is the deal: learn to do multi and use officially your incredibly good cube. Otherwise I believe you that your cube is awesome and I am willing to exchange it for like 2 or 3 brand new cubes of the same kind. This is serious.

If you are interrested, just PM me, I will not discuss it anymore in this thread. Thanks.

 

[ernie722]

just forget about the whole thing...the stickerless puzzles will probably not be accepted so just leave it there...just save up, get a sticker 3x3 that u want, break it in, problem solved

 

[Petezorzz]

Why is the guy still on here?
Seriously Michael, you should think about what you're posting before you're posting.
Just because 500 people think that they should allow a Dayan coloured cube, it doesn't mean that WCA will allow them.

Extremely stupid post.

 

[IamWEB]

so if that the roll then no one will buy the colored dayan cube and then no one will ever see them

Not only is that irrelevant to this debate, but it's also untrue. Why?

His original intention for the coloured Guhong is for collection only, if you wish to know.

^That's why.

You never know maybe if theres a video of feliks using a colored zhanchi and geting a sub 5 sec solve thin thy might

This wouldn't help at all. In fact, it would show that there's an advantage to be gained by using it. That would only justify the reason why it's already banned.

just scramble your coloured dayan then sticker it, problem solved

And it seems to me that what vcuber13 is saying here is this: If you put stickers on the Stickerless DaYan and try to solve it, you will likely have look-ahead trouble because of the plastic coloring. That proves that the visible plastic on the sides of the stickers makes a difference, and therefore the Stickerless DaYan is not the same as a regular DaYan cube.

Some people were saying that the cubes were the same, so he should just buy a stickered one and get over it. He said you were missing the point, and he's right. If they are the same, then why is stickerless one banned? However, they aren't same for the several reasons already listed in this thread (the paragraph above, qq's posts, and a bunch of other posts here...)

The stickerless cube is banned for a reason. Please understand what the reason is.
Sucks that you spent time and money on a banned cube, but you're going to have to use one with stickers.

 

[Mikel]

We are talking about hardware here, not performance enhancing drugs. The fairness lies in that anyone can use the hardware they wish to. Also using baseball as an analogy, it would be like banning spikes on the shoes because they provide more grip (when they first came out).

Strictly talking about hardware, I think you can make the analogy that using a colored cube could be like corking a bat in baseball. Both hardware, both illegal.

 

[tx789]

WCA will never allow dayan stickeress cube for 3x3 speed and even if 500 people say yes show many will say no

 

[Itchy Cacti]

...These cubes are allowed for Multiple Blindfolded and may be for 3x3x3BLD too (not sure about the later). So here is the deal: learn to do multi and use officially your incredibly good cube...

Article B: Blindfolded Solving
•B1d) Solving phase must be done on a puzzle with tiles, stickers or paint, without different textures or markings.

Wouldn't it speed up memo?

 

[Olji]

Wouldn't it speed up memo?

What I know you're not allowed to turn under memo, how would a stickerless Dayan speed it up?

 

[Evan Liu]

Article B: Blindfolded Solving
•B1d) Solving phase must be done on a puzzle with tiles, stickers or paint, without different textures or markings.

Wouldn't it speed up memo?

http://worldcubeassociation.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=924
Ron himself said these cubes are ok for blind events. (See last post)

 

[cubernya]

Article B: Blindfolded Solving
•B1d) Solving phase must be done on a puzzle with tiles, stickers or paint, without different textures or markings.

Wouldn't it speed up memo?

No, Ron specifically said pillowed and colored cubes can be used in competitions.

Edit: ninja'd again

 

[Eleredo]

I voted yes, but unfortunately it will never happen.
Not even if this has 5000 votes.

 

[Itchy Cacti]

What I know you're not allowed to turn under memo, how would a stickerless Dayan speed it up?

Whoops I was thinking pillowed.

 

[Micael]

Article B: Blindfolded Solving
•B1d) Solving phase must be done on a puzzle with tiles, stickers or paint, without different textures or markings.

Wouldn't it speed up memo?

Maybe for these 8-9sec memo guys, only them could tell. As soon as the bottle neck is the organisation and storage of information in our head, I cannot see how it can help. So I think it is fine for multi, as WCA currently tolerate. For single bld I don't know what is the politic, I would like to know.

Edit: ninja'd, it is allowed for single bld, thanks.

 

[Owen]

You should start your own cube association, with your own rules.

Call it the Michael Womak cube association. I'd totally go to the competitions.

 

[Mal]

What's wrong with normal cubes?

 

[convinsa]

Using the color cube is not fair. Some people can actually average a ton better on those cubes than normal cubes. Something like they can see the colors in the back or some ****