How do you calculate a DNF into an average?

[byu]

Why would your best be DNF unless it's in BLD

 

[Deleted member 2864]

little bit off but... does cct autimatically take a 3 of 5 when it tells you an avg of 5 or is it just all of them together?

 

[byu]

I believe it removes best and worst

 

[Bob]

or when you don't wait for the green light before starting to solve

I hope you don't do this in your competitions. If you don't wait for the green light, but start solving, you should be disqualified by A3c1:

A3c1) The competitor must not apply moves. Penalty: disqualification of the solve.

No a DNS is like where you never even solve. For example, I did two 4x4 solves and they weren't low enough to continue the average so I got three DNSs, I think, maybe I got 3 solves.

Actually, for a DNS, you decline to solve. For example, if you did your first solve but did not wish to continue, the rest of your solves are DNS. In a combined final, if you did not make the cutoff, you are not getting DNS. After all, it is a COMBINED final - i.e. two rounds in one. So in your case, you did not make it past the "first round" of the combination, which was best of 2. Just as a competitor who does not advance to the final does not get DNS for their solves in a final round, you do not get DNS if you don't make a cutoff.

My brother didn't wait for the green light once in competition. He got to redo the solve. But that was in Rubik's Magic, maybe 3x3 is different.

I forget to wait for the light all the time at home. One time I knew I had a sub-12 and then I stopped the timer and it was at 0.00

In magic it is okay, because there is no inspection phase. In 3x3 (or 4x4 or clock or square-1, etc.), you would be disqualified.

 

[byu]

or when you don't wait for the green light before starting to solve

I hope you don't do this in your competitions. If you don't wait for the green light, but start solving, you should be disqualified by A3c1:

A3c1) The competitor must not apply moves. Penalty: disqualification of the solve.

No a DNS is like where you never even solve. For example, I did two 4x4 solves and they weren't low enough to continue the average so I got three DNSs, I think, maybe I got 3 solves.

Actually, for a DNS, you decline to solve. For example, if you did your first solve but did not wish to continue, the rest of your solves are DNS. In a combined final, if you did not make the cutoff, you are not getting DNS. After all, it is a COMBINED final - i.e. two rounds in one. So in your case, you did not make it past the "first round" of the combination, which was best of 2. Just as a competitor who does not advance to the final does not get DNS for their solves in a final round, you do not get DNS if you don't make a cutoff.

Thanks for clarifying that. I thought those times would all be DNS

 

[Bob]

Thanks for clarifying that. I thought those times would all be DNS

It is actually (somewhat) well-defined in the regulations:

9f5) DNS (Did Not Start) is the result if a competitor skipped an attempt in a round.

Notice it says the competitor skips the attempt, implying that the competitor has some sort of choice. If a competitor cannot continue, they have no choice.

 

[byu]

Thanks for clarifying that. I thought those times would all be DNS

It is actually (somewhat) well-defined in the regulations:

9f5) DNS (Did Not Start) is the result if a competitor skipped an attempt in a round.

Notice it says the competitor skips the attempt, implying that the competitor has some sort of choice. If a competitor cannot continue, they have no choice.

Skip doesn't necessarially mean a choice though. If I get a PLL skip, I didn't have a choice

 

[Gparker]

Thanks for clarifying that. I thought those times would all be DNS

It is actually (somewhat) well-defined in the regulations:

9f5) DNS (Did Not Start) is the result if a competitor skipped an attempt in a round.

Notice it says the competitor skips the attempt, implying that the competitor has some sort of choice. If a competitor cannot continue, they have no choice.

Skip doesn't necessarially mean a choice though. If I get a PLL skip, I didn't have a choice

some people can force one though

 

[Kyle™]

Byu, how many chromosomes do you have?

 

[qqwref]

Thanks for clarifying that. I thought those times would all be DNS

It is actually (somewhat) well-defined in the regulations:

9f5) DNS (Did Not Start) is the result if a competitor skipped an attempt in a round.

Notice it says the competitor skips the attempt, implying that the competitor has some sort of choice. If a competitor cannot continue, they have no choice.

Skip doesn't necessarially mean a choice though. If I get a PLL skip, I didn't have a choice

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[rubiksguy]

DNFs in averages

From the WCA regulations:

9f9) In 'Average of 5' rounds one DNF or DNS is counted as the worst result, with more than one DNF and/or DNS the average is DNF.