Help with improving on clock.

[Tim Major]

Okay, so I really like Clock, and if we have it at the comp this weekend, I'll almost definitely break the average and single record, by over 5 seconds. I should be pleased with this, and I am, but to say the truth, I'm slow. What I want with this thread, is to be a similar thread, like "how to be sub 20" but with clock.

Please, any help. My method is make a cross of edges and the centre on one side, and align it to 12. Flip the clock, and solve the other cross (not aligned to 12). Then, solve the corners 1 by 1. this is the method most use, and the fastest method? Can you clock pros (not really pros, but sub 18, or faster) pelase give me some help/shortcuts, that can get me to sub 15? I want the AuR, but I want to get it to 15 or below. Whilst I won't be able to improve this much for the weekend, for future comps.

Thanks, and btw, I average around 22.

 

[qqwref]

The method nearly everyone uses is Pochmann, which is very similar to what you do now. You can get down under 10 seconds with purely this method (just practice and learn to be able to do any move without having to check it afterwards). If you want to get world-class fast, it's helpful to learn how to execute things from more than one "angle" and in more than one way, so you can take advantage of lucky cases. This will probably not shave very much on average (maybe 0.5 - 1 sec if you're good?) so I'd say just learn pure Pochmann for now and do it the same way every time.

 

[DavidWoner]

Disagree. Start learning to do things from different angles now. The sooner you start, the easier it is.

Edit: lol you just want sub15? Practice. I thought you wanted to know about sub10.

 

[Faz]

Okay, so I really like Clock, and if we have it at the comp this weekend, I'll almost definitely break the average and single record, by over 5 seconds.

whoa, sub 2 single?

 

[Tim Major]

So do people solve the edge clocks in that order? It doesn't seem very fast, as I just pick the clock the centre clock is closest too. And,
"You'll notice that often there are "lucky cases" waiting to be exploited, for example if the bottom clock shows the same hour as the middle clock right at the beginning. I myself get confused and lose my rhythm when I try to exploit this, so unless it's a superlucky case (e.g. four clocks showing the same time) I ignore it."

from the hints, but I normally try to exploit, eg: bottom, and right clock matching. How can you take advantage of 4 edge clocks? And other things to take advantage of.

 

[qqwref]

Don't complain that it looks slow, just try it and see. It's clear that it is faster to almost always use top clocks to rotate (which this solution does) and to move the clock itself as little as possible (which this solution does). Perhaps you think it is slow because you are not doing it properly. Go watch some fast clock videos and take a look at how other people do it.

 

[hr.mohr]

Olivér Perge has a very good video where he shows how he takes advantage of lucky cases. Go check that out.

 

[Laura O]

So do people solve the edge clocks in that order?

I do and I get averages around 10 seconds, even without using any lucky cases.

I think it's quite important to practice the motion-sequence and get used to it. A lot of people try to find the "shortest way" through all those single steps but that doesn't make you fast.

 

[Pedro]

Yeah, just practice pochmann way of doing it.

A well lubed clock is really important too. Open it and lube. Helped me a lot this past week.

You can get sub-15 easily just with some practice. I like the way Stefan explains because it's pretty much brain-dead (does it have the - there?).
Of course you can use lucky cases, but I find it a little confusing. All I do is use the bottom/right corner to align the center to top and left edges, when they match at the beginning.

 

[Tim Major]

Yeah, just practice pochmann way of doing it.

A well lubed clock is really important too. Open it and lube. Helped me a lot this past week.

You can get sub-15 easily just with some practice. I like the way Stefan explains because it's pretty much brain-dead (does it have the - there?).
Of course you can use lucky cases, but I find it a little confusing. All I do is use the bottom/right corner to align the center to top and left edges, when they match at the beginning.

How do you open the clock? I sprayed some silicone in the turny things (what are they called?:confused and it did turn better, though I saw someone on Youtube, who cut open they're clock, and taped it back together. s that what you mean?

So do people solve the edge clocks in that order?

I do and I get averages around 10 seconds, even without using any lucky cases.

I think it's quite important to practice the motion-sequence and get used to it. A lot of people try to find the "shortest way" through all those single steps but that doesn't make you fast.

Thanks, I'll definitely practise this move sequence now.

Olivér Perge has a very good video where he shows how he takes advantage of lucky cases. Go check that out.

I've seen the first bit of it. I'll watch the rest soon.

Don't complain that it looks slow, just try it and see. It's clear that it is faster to almost always use top clocks to rotate (which this solution does) and to move the clock itself as little as possible (which this solution does). Perhaps you think it is slow because you are not doing it properly. Go watch some fast clock videos and take a look at how other people do it.

Ok, I do understand, that even though I don't really understand why the sequence is faster, you've convinced me to try it anyway, as you average less than half of my average. I'm taking in all these tips, and hopefully I'll get to sub 15 in a few weeks/months.

 

[Pedro]

How to open the clock: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqD0eDPcwxw

Be careful, though, not to break the pins that hold the clear plastic structure