Does anyone use ZBLL?

[David Pritts]

I remember a small group of folks years ago deciding they would learn all 500 algorithms...

Has anyone been successful in implementing it as his or her normal method?

 

[Faz]

1 guy. He pwns

 

[4Chan]

ME.

EDIT: Click my youtube link to see a ZBLL avg of 5.
And a bunch of other ZBLL videos, tricks, mini-tutorials, and even a sub-method called ZBLD which orients corners whilst permuting and orienting edges at once depending on which variant.

 

[Forte]

CHRIS TRANNNN

Other than that, I remember Johannes saying he knew someone who knew all the algs as well.

 

[David Pritts]

I actually already looked at your livejournal earlier today...

I guess I am confused about the distinction between ZZ and ZB.

So you've memorized all 500 algs?

I would love to watch the videos except that I live in China where it's illegal to access you.tube.

 

[4Chan]

I know around 280-ish ZBLL algs, because algorithms can be mirrored to solve 2 cases and more.

http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16553

ZZ orients all edges before hand, and restricts turns to L,U, and R.

ZB lets you use all the faces, and orients with the ZBF2L step.

Both use ZBLL to solve the last layer with one look.

 

[David Pritts]

So the last layer is the same, but ZZ is sort of like the Petrus or Roux method, and uses a different technique for getting the edges oriented?

 

[eastamazonantidote]

In ZZ, you orient the edges and place 2 cross pieces (DF and DB) as your first step instead going for a cross (called EOLine). Then you build your F2L pairs and final cross pieces without using certain open slot tricks (keeping the cube <R,L,U> solvable), then continue with an edges-oriented last layer.

Cride has a great website on ZZ and EOLine in particular. blah has a nice video tutorial on the EOLine as well.

 

[Cyrus C.]

Wait what's that method called where you orient the LL while solving the last slot? Was that MGLS? Until recently I thought that was ZZ...

Oh, and Cubes=Life has it, I think Jason Baum also has it.

 

[irontwig]

Wait what's that method called where you orient the LL while solving the last slot? Was that MGLS? Until recently I thought that was ZZ...

Oh, and Cubes=Life has it, I think Jason Baum also has it.

That's ZBF2L.

 

[LewisJ]

Wait what's that method called where you orient the LL while solving the last slot? Was that MGLS? Until recently I thought that was ZZ...

Oh, and Cubes=Life has it, I think Jason Baum also has it.

That's ZBF2L.

No, that's MGLS. ZBF2L only orients LL edges, MGLS does last slot + all of OLL.

 

[irontwig]

Man, I got have sworn that he wrote "LL edges" rather than "LL", that's the price you pay for assuming that people stay on topic, I guess.

 

[Cyrus C.]

Man, I got have sworn that he wrote "LL edges" rather than "LL", that's the price you pay for assuming that people stay on topic, I guess.

And you know what they say about people who assume...