CW Edge 3-Cycle and CCW Edge 3-Cycle Confusion!

[Odin]

Well I have all my 4lll algorithms memorized, its just that when I solve I mistake my WCC Edge 3-Cycle with my CW Edge 3-Cycle and visa versa, so can any one give me any tips/tricks that can help me out with this problem?

 

[DavidWoner]

If you use the algs that cycle UL, UF, and UR, then here is what I do.

Look at the sticker on the right side, if it is opposite of the face its on (e.g. blue sticker on green face, orange sticker on red face etc.) then it is a counter clockwise cycle. if not, then its clockwise. simple as that.

 

[Ellis]

Just a simple relationship between a pair of corners that share a similar color. What path do your corners cycle when you hold cube and do those algorithms? Like FR->BR->BL or FL-FR-BR, in other words do you have 2 unsolved corners in the front or back when you do them (disregard this)

 

[Odin]

CW Edge 3-Cycle (R2 U R U R' U' R' R' U R') = clockwise
CCW Edge 3-Cycle (R U' R U R U R U' R' U' R2) = counterclockwise

 

[Ellis]

Oh for some reason I thought you meant corners... sorry. I do basically what Vault said. Look at the edge on the right or left faces and quickly tell if it is opposite or adjacent colors to the face that its currently on.

 

[Odin]

So when doing to last layer you do corners first?

 

[DavidWoner]

So when doing to last layer you do corners first?

well 4 look last layer is generally EO, CO, CP, EP, so these edges cycles should be the last step. I can see why you were having problems if you did edge permutation before corners. switch the order and it should be a lot easier.

 

[Odin]

Ohhh ok, thanks so much vault312 and Ellis for the help!

 

[xSwiftxClawx]

Here's the way I see it:

If you're going to cycle CW, your first U turn will be clockwise.
Therefore, you do R2 U R U R' U' R' U' R' U R'

If you're going to cycle CCW, your first U turn will be counterclockwise.
Thus, R U' R U R U R U' R' U' R2

 

[Odin]

Your right swift, thanks... hey we should race my average is 50.27~ and my pb is 37~!

 

[blade740]

You must be confused. You wrote CW twice in the title.