CFOP OLL/PLL Solvers: When did you start using 4LLL, OLL, PLL?

[Phillip1847]

When I learned that case I used (R U R' U') (R U' R') (F' U' F) (R U R'), and I remembered it since RUR'U' takes out the f2l pair, RU'R breaks it and puts the corner with white (or whatever cross colour) facing upwards in UBL, F'U'F rotates the corner so white is now facing the right and RUR' just reinserts it. That might not be the quickest algorithm for it, but I found it quite easy to remember. Maybe this'll be helpful for you, maybe it won't. Either way, good luck with that single OLL case/cubing in general.

Pretty sure you meant R'
Also, that is the case I know- M U (sexysledge) M'. The other one is the one I don't know
Chill alg though.

I just learned the (R, r, U) one and I know it now.

 

[GG]

current 21.xx

4LLL 35
PLL 24
OLL (40/57) 21

 

[CriticalCubing]

current 21.xx

4LLL 35
PLL 24
OLL (40/57) 21

OLL is not required to be sub 20. You can easily get sub 20 with 2 look oll and PLL. I avg 16-17 sec and I still use 2 look oll Make sure your F2L is fast. Like 8 sec

 

[sneaklyfox]

Current Average: 16 sec
4LLL: never bothered with 2-look PLL
Full PLL: 1 min
Full OLL: 30 sec

 

[tx789]

current average 18
4LLL 54-1:04 (I improved 10 second in a week. That was the week before my first comp. I learned 2 look OLL then)
PLL 33ish
OLL I don't know the awkward shapes(I kind of do know two). So I know only 55/57 OLLs

 

[GG]

OLL is not required to be sub 20. You can easily get sub 20 with 2 look oll and PLL. I avg 16-17 sec and I still use 2 look oll Make sure your F2L is fast. Like 8 sec

I know it's not required but I really enjoy learning the algorithms,
And I'm quite fast at f2l anyway,
I think 2look oll is holding me back....

 

[cuboy63]

I know it's not required but I really enjoy learning the algorithms,
And I'm quite fast at f2l anyway,
I think 2look oll is holding me back....

If you average around 20, you''re F2L is definitely not fast enough. There is still a lot of room for improvement. Never stop focusing on improving your F2L.

 

[ChickenWrap]

Current Average: 20 sec
4LLL: 35 seconds
Full PLL: Started at 22, but still learning (15/21).
Full OLL: Barely know 2-look OLL

 

[brian724080]

OLL is not required to be sub 20. You can easily get sub 20 with 2 look oll and PLL. I avg 16-17 sec and I still use 2 look oll Make sure your F2L is fast. Like 8 sec

Wow, I guess my LL is pretty fast (back when I used CFOP), because I can pull a 13 second F2L and end up with an 18 second solve.

I know it's not required but I really enjoy learning the algorithms,
And I'm quite fast at f2l anyway,
I think 2look oll is holding me back....

Lolwut -- you should practice lookahead by tracking multiple pairs at the same time.

 

[kcl]

I know it's not required but I really enjoy learning the algorithms,
And I'm quite fast at f2l anyway,
I think 2look oll is holding me back....

Yeah no. I got sub 14 with 2 look OLL. If your F2l isn't sub 6, keep working on it.

 

[Cubeologist]

Current average ~ 27 seconds
4LLL at 1 minute
Full PLL at 30 seconds. (Just recently)
I know 2LOLL and a few of the easy cases.

 

[GuRoux]

current CFOP average = 22
4LLL at 35
Full PLL at 25

 

[kcl]

Current Average: barely sub 10
4LLL: 40?
Full PLL: 21ish
Full OLL: 12ish

 

[IRNjuggle28]

Current average: ~22
4LLL, PLL, OLL, and everything: not yet.

I use sort of a beginners method/ 4LLL hybrid that's probably about as fast as 4LLL. I'm getting close to done learning PLLs. I'm partway through learning my last 2 G perms. Then I'll just have R and N left. I never bothered to actually switch to 4 look because using 2 step permutation wouldn't be faster than what I'm doing, which is EO, EP, CO, and CP.

I don't even know full 2 look OLL. I mean, I do, but some of them are just beginners method algs. They're slow, and I need to learn better ones once I finish PLL.

My last layer is really, really holding me back. I'm not fast, but I average 13 or 14 for F2L. LL is barely sub 10. If I used 3 look last layer (2 look OLL, full PLL) I'd easily be sub 20.

 

[GG]

If you average around 20, you''re F2L is definitely not fast enough. There is still a lot of room for improvement. Never stop focusing on improving your F2L.

Thanks for the advice Bill!
(p.s. break the owr soon please!! )

 

[Sky Cuber]

Current avg. 38.91
4lll. 53.97 avg.
Oll na
Pll learning. Actually want to learn. No time.

 

[aiolos]

Current Average: 22
4LLL: 35
Full PLL: 22
Full OLL: still learning silly goose

 

[Bindedsa]

Current Average: 22
4LLL: 35
Full PLL: 22
Full OLL: still learning silly goose

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