Cambridge Open 2013

[KongShou]

On a side note, has anyone passed the STEP papers and has got a maths scholarship? I know at least 20 ppl in my school with near full marks in a level but still didn't get in. Okay that's an exaggeration but my school is like best in northern England but no one has got into Cambridge for maths that I know of. The STEP papers r really really hard apparently. A guy did get rejected by Cambridge and Oxford but got into Harvard with a £100000 scholarship.

 

[kinch2002]

On a side note, has anyone passed the STEP papers and has got a maths scholarship? I know at least 20 ppl in my school with near full marks in a level but still didn't get in. Okay that's an exaggeration but my school is like best in northern England but no one has got into Cambridge for maths that I know of. The STEP papers r really really hard apparently. A guy did get rejected by Cambridge and Oxford but got into Harvard with a £100000 scholarship.

Yes, you do need to be the sort of person who gets 100% (minus stupid mistakes) at every A level paper to be able to pass STEP2 or 3. But that doesn't mean it's THAT hard. I practised for my Oxford interview by doing STEP papers and I found them to be a much better measure of having a great mathematical mind than A levels. Getting into Oxbridge does require an element of luck, but Oxford have an exam during interview time, and Cambridge have STEP. This is because A level Maths and Further Maths are stupidly easy for the top students and waaaay too many people get 100%.
In summary, STEP is harder than A level, but pitched at the right level to separate out the 100% students.

 

[KongShou]

Yes, you do need to be the sort of person who gets 100% (minus stupid mistakes) at every A level paper to be able to pass STEP2 or 3. But that doesn't mean it's THAT hard. I practised for my Oxford interview by doing STEP papers and I found them to be a much better measure of having a great mathematical mind than A levels. Getting into Oxbridge does require an element of luck, but Oxford have an exam during interview time, and Cambridge have STEP. This is because A level Maths and Further Maths are stupidly easy for the top students and waaaay too many people get 100%.
In summary, STEP is harder than A level, but pitched at the right level to separate out the 100% students.

I see, I have already took c1 c2 and m1. Got 100% in c1. 80 in c2 which I dunno how. And yet to get my m1 back. Dan u go to Oxford for maths? Wow.

Also I just got in top40 in a maths challenge thingy(ukmt). Will this help?

Further maths is stupidly easy? Ok i don't find it hard like number theory such as elliptic curves, but it not super easy like, I dunno, c1/c2?

I'm only in yr10 so I guess I can easily get full mark in all modules. But u need like full marks in step too?

 

[kinch2002]

I see, I have already took c1 c2 and m1. Got 100% in c1. 80 in c2 which I dunno how. And yet to get my m1 back. Dan u go to Oxford for maths? Wow.
Also I just got in top40 in a maths challenge thingy(ukmt). Will this help?
Further maths is stupidly easy? Ok i don't find it hard like number theory such as elliptic curves, but it not super easy like, I dunno, c1/c2?
I'm only in yr10 so I guess I can easily get full mark in all modules. But u need like full marks in step too?

This is getting really far off-topic from Cambridge Open.
I went to Oxford - finished now.
You don't need anywhere near full marks in STEP to get in. You interview first, then they make an offer with conditions on getting a certain level in STEP papers. They are hard enough that if you get full marks, you're the next Pythagoras. If you make decent attempts at questions, that's a good sign.
You're in Year 10, don't worry about finding further maths easy yet.

 

[KongShou]

This is getting really far off-topic from Cambridge Open.
I went to Oxford - finished now.
You don't need anywhere near full marks in STEP to get in. You interview first, then they make an offer with conditions on getting a certain level in STEP papers. They are hard enough that if you get full marks, you're the next Pythagoras. If you make decent attempts at questions, that's a good sign.
You're in Year 10, don't worry about finding further maths easy yet.

Ok final post on this far far off topic subject.
I will get full mark in STEP and become the next Euler. How hard is it I get a scholarship, where I don't have to pay a penny, in Cambridge? 90%?

 

[Florian]

thx guys i'll come back to you late

Ok final post on this far far off topic subject.
I will get full mark in STEP and become the next Euler. How hard is it I get a scholarship, where I don't have to pay a penny, in Cambridge? 90%?

All information about scholarships and bursaries is on the cambridge website. But still I don't think there is any actual full-scholarship! You always just take up the fees as a credit which you only have to pay back when you earn more than 21k pounds and then always 9% of your earnings and well the starting income of a cambridge eng graduate is higher then that already.
Also about the STEP. It's only required for a few colleges for Eng, for math though most/all colleges require step. Emmanuel for example only requires the TSA. Trinity writes their own entry exam (others do that as well). I remember one q. from a practice one they put up. It was like evaluate the integral from 0 to pi of (sin(x)*x)² dx.

Spoiler

trig-identity + integration by parts

 

[KongShou]

thx guys i'll come back to you late


All information about scholarships and bursaries is on the cambridge website. But still I don't think there is any actual full-scholarship! You always just take up the fees as a credit which you only have to pay back when you earn more than 21k pounds and then always 9% of your earnings and well the starting income of a cambridge eng graduate is higher then that already.
Also about the STEP. It's only required for a few colleges for Eng, for math though most/all colleges require step. Emmanuel for example only requires the TSA. Trinity writes their own entry exam (others do that as well). I remember one q. from a practice one they put up. It was like evaluate the integral from 0 to pi of (sin(x)*x)² dx.

Spoiler

trig-identity + integration by parts

That's easy tho, nothing like The past papers I've seen, where I can only do 1/3 of the question, and even that takes me ages.

I through step is a Cambridge and Durham( if its Durham) only thing?

 

[MaeLSTRoM]

That's easy tho, nothing like The past papers I've seen, where I can only do 1/3 of the question, and even that takes me ages.

I through step is a Cambridge and Durham( if its Durham) only thing?

Step papers are also used for Warwick.

Perhaps you guys should move this to PM or some other medium to continue talking about it instead of going further off topic here.

 

[jayefbe]

All information about scholarships and bursaries is on the cambridge website. But still I don't think there is any actual full-scholarship! You always just take up the fees as a credit which you only have to pay back when you earn more than 21k pounds and then always 9% of your earnings and well the starting income of a cambridge eng graduate is higher then that already.

One of the areas, of many, that Europe has the US beat. Our schools and lending agencies take advantage of student loans and send students into crushing debt that they can never escape from. Our student loans have to start being paid back as soon as we graduate, nevermind that college graduates rarely have a good job out of college anymore. And our rates aren't limited to a percentage of our earnings.

 

[CubeRoots]

this is getting silly now. Please stop.

 

[kinch2002]

this is getting silly now. Please stop.

We'll just wait for it to be moved to an off-topic thread

 

[Noahaha]

Here's a gem that's been sitting on my computer:

 

[Florian]

I'm in guys . Given that I meet my offer, I will be studying Engineering at Emmanuel. Hope to see you at the Competitions during my studies

 

[~Adam~]

I'm in guys . Given that I meet my offer, I will be studying Engineering at Emmanuel. Hope to see you at the Competitions during my studies

Awesome. Congratulations.

I hope you get the grades you need.