3x3x3 relays as an official event?

[5BLD]

NO, wouldn't that defeat the purpose of the 3x3 event?

NO, that wouldn't defeat the purpose of the 3x3 event

 

[Mudkip]

It really does sound like an enjoyable event.
The number of cubes could be set, or at least limited, to prevent competitors from bringing too many.

 

[TMOY]

I would rather see an event that requires different skills like a 2-5 relay. Then you see who's good at many events.

Unfortunately no. We would only see who's good at the biggest cube of the relay.

 

[5BLD]

Unfortunately no. We would only see who's good at the biggest cube of the relay.

Absolutely. The larger the relay, the less 3x3 counts, and this sorta weakens the argument that 2-n (4,5,6,7, whateva) relays are better than 3x3 relays because we are overrepresenting 3x3 and not showing your all round skill if we had all-3 relays. The contrary happens in 2-n relays. For example, I am fast at 3x3 but when doing a relay it's rendered almost negligible because of such longer times for other cubes. Especially on -7 relays where even the 3x3 stage on the 777 counts for little.

Maybe we could have relays where each cubesize was equally represented. This is subjective though... For me it'd be 2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-3-3-3-3-3-4. Thinkinh about this, actually it's kinda silly.

What's wrong with an event which doesn't require you to have many different skills?

 

[Czery]

Absolutely. The larger the relay, the less 3x3 counts, and this sorta weakens the argument that 2-n (4,5,6,7, whateva) relays are better than 3x3 relays because we are overrepresenting 3x3 and not showing your all round skill if we had all-3 relays. The contrary happens in 2-n relays. For example, I am fast at 3x3 but when doing a relay it's rendered almost negligible because of such longer times for other cubes. Especially on -7 relays where even the 3x3 stage on the 777 counts for little.

Maybe we could have relays where each cubesize was equally represented. This is subjective though... For me it'd be 2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-3-3-3-3-3-4. Thinkinh about this, actually it's kinda silly.

What's wrong with an event which doesn't require you to have many different skills?

I have twenty lanlan 2x2 in my closet in case you are interested.

On Topic:

How about non-cube relays like pyraminx, megaminx, sq1, clock.

 

[ben1996123]

this is a stupid thread because its obvious its not going to get added. even something sensible like skewb wasn't added, so this definitely won't be.

 

[5BLD]

Are you in UK? I would be actually interested in buying them.

On: How would we sort out inspection if we had relays?

 

[BlackStahli]

EDIT: Also, what sets 3x3 relays at a higher significance to be added than any other proposed event (Skewb; Team BLDp; 2x2 BLD; Gigaminx blind, underwater, while skydiving, with one foot, in a dress; etc.)

Lol in a dress. I think it's only significant because 3x3s are among the most available of puzzles, but other than that not really. If I had the ability to consider which events are official, I'd consider them all in order of how popular they are among cubers.

That's the thing. Maybe a 2 minute limit would be suffice. At a rate of 6 cubes per minute for top cubers, there would be 12 solves. It still seems like a large amount, but it is better than 60. It is also nice to have an event that has each person complete the round in 2 minutes.

I think 2 minutes would be too short, since even in the luckiest cases with the fastest cubers, I doubt they will surpass 20 cubes. Also, with the number of possible results, you might end up seeing like a 5-way tie at 12 solves or something between Feliks, Rowe, Michal, etc. 10 minutes should be good enough.

How about non-cube relays like pyraminx, megaminx, sq1, clock.

Eh, 3x3 seems to be the most extensive event, with official ones including BLD, OH, feet, and FMC, so why not build on that?

 

[5BLD]

10 minutes is good enough? Most of us, even those who are fast don't even own that many to use up the full 10 minutes.

 

[BlackStahli]

Good point. Maybe it should just be a time limit of 2 minutes, but then there's gonna be a lot of ties....
My solution to reduce the number of ties is to rank the competitors by number of solved cubes first, then the total solve time (they may stop before the 2 minute mark). If they end up attempting another 3x3 but don't finish it by the time the 2 minutes are up, then the number of cubes solved will be counted and the solve time will be 2 minutes.

Is it just me, or has this already been established for multiBLD? :/

 

[RNewms27]

Good point. Maybe it should just be a time limit of 2 minutes, but then there's gonna be a lot of ties....
My solution to reduce the number of ties is to rank the competitors by number of solved cubes first, then the total solve time (they may stop before the 2 minute mark). If they end up attempting another 3x3 but don't finish it by the time the 2 minutes are up, then the number of cubes solved will be counted and the solve time will be 2 minutes.

Is it just me, or has this already been established for multiBLD? :/

I believe it was already assumed it would go from # of cubes to solve time. MBLD rules. Basically the same concept, but much shorter and, in my opinion, much more interesting than having memorization before a solve.

I would recommend not having 20 cubes possible because of the grand scavenger hunt you have beforehand to gather 20 Dayans. MBLD usually has a decent amount of Rubik's/Dollar cubes because it does not impact the attempt very much and not everyone is a millionaire.

 

[MirzaCubing]

(Keeping in mind this won't happen, here I go

At the You Can Do the Cube competitions in the MD-VA-DC Area, a team of up to 8 people solve 25 cubes in the fastest time. At the YCDTC competitions, other teams scramble for other teams, which I say isn't as effective, but I doubt much cheating would ever occur.

Although it won't ever be official, this would be a fun unofficial event

 

[Jokerman5656]

sounds like an event for the unofficial fun-ness. Not an event to practice and be an actual event

 

[Ranzha]

In reply to OP:

3x3s are the most available. This doesn't make the event easy to run, popular, and sensible. Unfortunately, you'll have to try again.

And about the comment someone else made about Skewb not being added, the WRC's main objective right now (as far as I know) is to make the regs Stefan-proof.

 

[BlackStahli]

3x3s are the most available. This doesn't make the event easy to run, popular, and sensible. Unfortunately, you'll have to try again.

As for making the event easy to run, the judges scramble all the cubes at once, in one sitting. Then, they get concealed until the competitor decides to begin inspection/the solve. Assuming a 2 minute time limit for the solves, even with maybe like 50 competitors and just 4-5 timers it can easily be all done within an hour.
As for popularity, 3x3 relays probably wouldn't be the first couple of events considered for being made official, since most cubers probably would be satisfied with the standard 3x3 event, along with all the other variations.

 

[Ranzha]

As for making the event easy to run, the judges scramble all the cubes at once, in one sitting. Then, they get concealed until the competitor decides to begin inspection/the solve. Assuming a 2 minute time limit for the solves, even with maybe like 50 competitors and just 4-5 timers it can easily be all done within an hour.
As for popularity, 3x3 relays probably wouldn't be the first couple of events considered for being made official, since most cubers probably would be satisfied with the standard 3x3 event, along with all the other variations.

A 2-minute limit is pretty strict, but I suppose it works for both time efficiency, and the fast that cubers don't have to lug around fifty or so cubes. I just don't think it would have the amount of popularity or the amount of support to make it an event, sorry.
Also, the points system would be like the MultiBLD system?