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Failing to improve on 5 without not using Heise... 5. 20 Moves: a. Pairs U' R U R' (4) b. Shuffle around U' R U' R' (4) c. Y Perm (12) Okay, that was a cop-out and not heise.... 28 Moves: a. Pairs U' R U R' (4) b.1. Solve 3 of 5 edges R U' R' U2 (4) b.2. Solve other 2 edges B R B' U B R'...

Figures, and yes, pretty much. Back to the drawing board...

Not totally sure what you mean exactly but: Suppose such a commutator exists, call it X. Doesn't need to be a commutator. By pigeonhole principle for some p, X^p = Solved state I, since the cube has a finite number of states you eventually have to cycle back. Let p* be the minimum of these...

Thanks for posting those examples Johannes91. But I disagree with you on it not needing further explanation. I find with intuitive methods it can be quite helpful to see some examples because sometimes it can make me go "what, you can do that!?" I see in your examples you seem to prefer...

Heise Method - Building Two Pairs I've noticed that my move count with Heise when building the two pairs is very inefficient - I tend to build the first pair Fridrich style and then spend too many moves trying to get the second pair. Unfortunately Heise's website...

I have a Rubik's Retooled and after breaking it in a lot so it's nice an loose and polished.... recommend not getting one, it is only good if you want RSI for whatever reason and for training wrist strength.

But I wrote that in the context of: ... sorry if that wasn't unclear. D'UR repeated over and over on a solved cube would eventually take the cube back to it's solved state.

Wacky: 2. any sequence of moves when repeated over and will eventually return the cube to a solved state because of the pigeonhole principle and all that. Stefan: Yes, that's what I meant with consequence vs definition. Oh and what you just wrote is not true. A cube away from solved by a D turn...

Tiles are different (and uglier looking), dimensions and weight are different, I suspect these are not the white versions of those two puzzles.

Thanks. I think I will order a V5 then!

Dumb question, I know, but... Just wondering, does V-cube packaging have a "made in ____" text and if so, could you please tell me what it says, greece, somewhere, china? I know people have said offhand it's made in Greece, but that might not be reliable (...Bump cubes are not made in...

A poster starts a thread to sell something with and it's only been like, 2 pages into the thread, geez... Moving on, the method sounds interesting and may offer a new approach to cube solving, but the move count in the video seems to be over 70, is that typical? I should point out that...

Ah, didn't know about that. I thought that the there was some kind of international treaty that allowed for it to apply around the world but I guess that's not the case. But on your list, it's patented in China which should mean that Verdes has the legal right to prevent production of copies...

http://www.faqs.org/rulings/rulings2006HQW480158.html AFAIK trademark is only over a 3x3x3 with the standard colour scheme, and so the knock-off cubes with random colour schemes are fine. However, that might imply that the people stickering their diys in the usual colour schemes or making...

That's only ~25% cheaper given current exchange rates with the Euro, don't understand why anyone would risk buying a knockoff... (except for particular spare parts or something)

(Mirror blocks) The real mirror blocks are made in china though...

Just wondering since the New Meffert's Megaminx is supposedly the same as the Mf8 chinaminx (source: http://twistypuzzles.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=140943#p140943) If anyone has both the clone and the mefferts, is the cube in the opening post a different cube to the Meffert's 4x4x4? They look...

Thanks to all the replies (and also the author of the 4x4 time thread for inspiration). AvGalen: I'm assuming from what others have said in the past that in your comment "V5" = V5 but the comment "V-Cube" was actually referring to Eastsheen? I know it must be annoying to answer the same...

Hi, Just wondering considering ES 5x5x5 are currently available at less than half the price of a V-cube 5, for people who have both what times do you get on the v-cube vs eastsheen? If it's not big I might consider getting the ES since my times are terrible anyway. Thanks,

But on: http://www.unicube.tw/Cart/List.aspx?Type=2&Page=1 the A5 are described as A5:台製5x5[魔術方塊=magic cube], which looks like an Eastsheen, i.e. would you know whether that is supposed to be a knockoff rather than a real eastsheen?