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I said, I used to do R2. I love R2, I find it incredibly easy and much faster than OP. I used Old Pochman for at least two years, and R2 for at least 3 years before I came upon Noah's videos. OK, please try and give what I'm about to say some serious thought. Setup up moves are not long using...

Maybe you're right. Maybe R2M2 was so easy for me because I learned OP first. I learned OP and then I learned R2M2 from Marcell's post. I found it ridiculously easy. It was easier to me than Pochman, but maybe that's because I learned Pochman first. I don't know. Knowing OP and R2M2 probably...

"On the contrary, your first post in this thread said nothing about R2M2 and was instead recommending that people only ever learn 3-style" On the first post I was mentioning that one should learn 3style right off the bat. Watch Noah's videos and you will see how easy he makes it. I learned Old...

My whole point is that I don't think that OP is easier than something like R2M2. If you are doing OP/M2, which is what most people learn off the bat. You might as well learn something like R2 as well because R2 is just as easy as M2 and works the same way. And the point that I tried to make...

I'm not arguing. I thought we were having an discussion and I was honestly enjoying it and taking in the points being made. My bad.

You said you average 50seconds for memo and execution. Let's unpack that. Assuming you get good scramble with no parity and no flipped edges, the average BLD solve is 4 cycles for corners and 6 cycles for edges. OP corners average 20 turns per face or 40 turns per cycle (two faces). That's 160...

I wanted to add that the other advantages of going an extra mile and learning some sort of 3-style first, is that the idea of cycles becomes ingrained right from the beginning. You need to understand cycles for your memo (no one I know does their memo one letter at a time). Learning and...

I acknowledge that OP is easier to understand because it solves piece by piece and there are fewer (but much longer algorithms). But, even with OP, you are still solving in terms of cycles, ie two pieces because even in OP you have to know whether the cycles are odd or even. And you still have...

I don't know, I learned old pochman first and it turned out to be a waste of time. 3-style and R2M2(R1M1-R'1M'1) variations are just as easy to learn, and they are interchangeable with each other allowing you to pick what is more efficient for a cycle. And this way, way, way more efficient than...

I vote for some kind of 3-style BLD technique like Beyer-Hardwick or R2M2 except with your eyes open. You just have to keep you eye on the buffer. Sub 10 second times are possible. Just a thought.

That's exactly what happened to my son. Once he could solve the 2x2, and once he saw the reaction from his friends and his teacher, he was gung ho to learn the 3x3. The 2x2 carries over to the 3x3 and he was excited that he could imediately solve all the corners on a the 3x3. I think the best...

Thanks. lol.

He calls it an x-perm, I didn't teach it to him. He means when the top opposite mids are adjacent to each other as opposed to being across from each other. I personally don't know what that is called because I, personally, do 3-style BLD and Roux, so I rarely have that situation come up. Maybe...

I taught my son how to do the 3x3 when he was 8 (he's 9 now). He's sub30 now and has done several sub 20 solves.. I did it by teaching him the 2x2 cube, layer by layer method. I started by teaching him the basics of cubik notation. Then I showed him how to get the first layer which is really...

All great ideas! I'm not a competitive cuber, but I wanted to take my son to the last WCA comp here, but it was only open to competitors. So I figured I'd ever, but the even I would have entered, 3x3 bld, wasn't even on the event schedule! WCA gotta do better. My son loves cubing and wants to go...

Why are you wasting time and effort learning pochman? Old Pochman is a dinosaur and will be limiting. And because there are so many moves just to solve one piece, it is ripe for mistakes and makes it nearly imposible to be sub 2minutes. 3-style is only slightly harder to learn, but more...

Funny, I have the same thing as you for everything else. I normally do better when people are watching. Lol, everything except the cube!

I have a funny problem and I wonder if anyone has the same issue. I know I will probably get around it eventually, but I think it is kind of funny (yet annoying for the moment). I'm sub 20 on the 3x3 (Roux) and sub 45 on BLD (3-style) when I'm alone. The moment I have to solve around people, I...

Old pochman for corners is slow as hell and has too many moves. It's useless except as one way to solve parity. R2 is easy to learn and solves two faces at once. But eventually the idea is to use R, or R' or R2 with simple setups that remain in place for a cycle when convenient, then to use...

Why does everyone learn old Pochman first? For beginners R2M2 is easier and 3BLD is only a bit harder. (Disclaimer, I learned old Pochman first as well, but when I was exposed to R2M2, I thought, why the hell did I learn Pochman? It's slow and the move count is so high that it's easy to get DNFs...