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Oh okay, I don't know much about skroux, I've always used Sarah's intermediate. If you find your method works better than go for it :)

Isn't this just Skroux but with the steps switched up a bit?

Yeah, I'm also trying to find a more efficient way to solve the last eight edges, I'm not too fond with the way I solve them atm...

Although it's very efficient, it is extremely difficult to execute the CO + E-slice step quickly. Although I have had some perhaps sub-40 ATM speedsolves I'm averaging around 20-22 seconds currently. Not nearly as fast as I was with regular ECE, but I'm confident that with practice this method...

Hey guys, I started practicing with ECE again and came up with a few ways to optimize it. Here's how it goes: 1. Solve the FL and BL edges whilst ensuring the other E-slice edges are oriented 2. Use the experimental corner orientation method outlined on the SSC wiki page to orient the corners...

Haven't been replying to this thread in ages cuz there haven't been any remotely interesting methods for 3x3 (the only thing I care about) in a while. However this interests me quite a bit. I just got an 11.84 single with this method using the COLL/L5E variant and I quite like the idea! I think...

Hey folks, I haven't posted in this thread in a while, but I have a new idea so yeah here it is. So basically I do a lot of 2-gen solving just for fun and I figured out how to do some 2-gen winter variation. I don't know 2GLL so I used this winter variation thing to skip 2GOCLL and go straight...

New PB ao12, finally sub-9!!!! Generated By csTimer on 2016-7-2 avg of 12: 8.96 Time List: 1. 9.84 B2 D' F2 L2 R2 U F2 U F2 D' B U2 R U2 B2 U' B2 L B D' R 2. (10.52) R' B R' U D' B' L2 D L' U' F2 D' R2 D L2 B2 D B2 D2 R 3. 8.17 L' F' D2 F R2 B2 D2 U2 B' L2 B D F2 R' F2 L F2 U2 F' 4...

Oh I see what you mean by leaving two edges out he's technically phasing them.

What he never mentioned anything about the edges being phased or not, he just said to solve them. How is he suggesting a worse form of phasing?

That doesn't make sense, how would you solve CMLL on right if that's where you're block is? I think you need to reformulate this because right now I can't tell what you mean, sorry.

Okay, still, how many algs and is recognition any good?

Okay but even so the last step of this method doesn't seem very good. Is the last step just solving from EOBelt+CO? If so isn't this just a less efficient SSC?

This sounds great but the move count doesn't seem to make sense. In theory, shouldn't solving the pieces "twice" technically require more moves than simply efficiently solving in the first place? Although I can see how this would be good if you want to be efficient in a speedsolve since it's...

That isn't true I respect you you've put a lot of work into a lot of different methods and you've helped other people a lot. anyway this conversation doesn't really fit here so let's set this aside and focus on methods now since respect isn't even what I'm going for I just want to suggest...

Well thank you. I was referring to our friend back there saying that I lost all respect with that post. I don't even understand how that's possible if little outbursts like that made me lose all respect I would have lost all of it a long time ago XD

If that's what makes people lose all respect for me I'm surprised that you think people still respected me.

Haha it's funny how you're calling us noobs. If you could even comprehend that what we're talking about is NON-MATCHING CLL then maybe I'd spend some time explaining the things you don't understand about how this method works.

I don't think L2S would be very efficient, NMCLL already exists so why don't we us the recog from that?

How so? Technically you're solving Roux blocks without two edges then just CMLL. Finally you insert those last edges but you have way more options and you can optimize L6E. So basically this method HAS to be faster than Roux (in theory, and only if recog was good)