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callmezap
I like zz better than cfop too, but i struggle with it..any tips?
Tito_H
You are in sub-6 level, right?
I don't think I have some tips which you don't know.
I don't think I have some tips which you don't know.
callmezap
What no way im sub 6... i avg 9
callmezap
But with zz i am very incosistent from 13 to 30
Tito_H
If you are using CFOP and Sub-9, the time taken for each process would be roughly as follows, right?
Cross 1.5 sec.
F2L 4.0
OLL 1.5
PLL 2.0
Total 9.0 sec.
Cross 1.5 sec.
F2L 4.0
OLL 1.5
PLL 2.0
Total 9.0 sec.
Tito_H
The process is the same for ZZ-a from F2L onwards, so assuming EOCross takes 3.5 seconds, the total time is 11 seconds (9.5 seconds for ZBLL).
EOCross 3.5 sec.
F2L 4.0
OLL 1.5 (or ZBLL 3.0)
PLL 2.0
Total 11.0 sec. (or ZBLL 9.5 sec.)
EOCross 3.5 sec.
F2L 4.0
OLL 1.5 (or ZBLL 3.0)
PLL 2.0
Total 11.0 sec. (or ZBLL 9.5 sec.)
Tito_H
If you are using EOLine+block-building (left side) instead of EOCross+F2L, the process may be taking a longer time.
As someone who only has a sub-20 (myself), I know it may seem strange for me to give advice to someone at a higher level, but I would recommend measuring the time it takes for each process and improving the areas that are taking longer time than your aim (weak points).
As someone who only has a sub-20 (myself), I know it may seem strange for me to give advice to someone at a higher level, but I would recommend measuring the time it takes for each process and improving the areas that are taking longer time than your aim (weak points).
callmezap
Thank you so much for your advice bro! Sorry I havent been online and didnt see your reply...I understand it seems weird for you when I ask for advice when Im faster than you..but the reality is that I'm not faster than you while using ZZ. Practicing ZZ could help me with faster and more efficient EOs for FMC..any tips for recognizing EO solutions quicker?
Tito_H
First, I am x2y, not color neutral, and basically start with yellow top & blue front. Second, my EO recognition is a little different from the general one.
My EO recognition:
I look for bad edges in the following order:
My EO recognition:
I look for bad edges in the following order:
- Inspect 4 edges in the F slice.
- Inspect 4 edges in the S slice.
- Inspect 4 edges in the B slice.
Tito_H
This is because I find it easier to connect to the next EO solution. However, the downside is that it takes longer to inspect than the general method. For me, this EO recognition takes about 4 seconds.
Tito_H
My EO solution is processed mechanically using simple algorithms. I made and memorized a list of bad edge patterns in the F, S, and B slices and the algorithms to use.
For example, if there are 4 bad edges in total, 3 in F, 1 in S, and 0 in B, I divided it into 2 patterns depending on whether the bad edge in S overlaps with those in F. In pattern 1, R' D' F or U L F' is used, and in pattern 2, D' F or L F' is used.
For example, if there are 4 bad edges in total, 3 in F, 1 in S, and 0 in B, I divided it into 2 patterns depending on whether the bad edge in S overlaps with those in F. In pattern 1, R' D' F or U L F' is used, and in pattern 2, D' F or L F' is used.
Many years passed, and several years ago I noticed the existence of CFOP, and again decided to buy one. After having solved more than 100,000 times, I could become sub-20 with CFOP. Then I started to learn ZZ which I like more now.