How I should continue?

[cookingfat]

I admire your dexterity, but why the rush, Cyber? Is it for a competition or bet, or just your own personal goals?

 

[AvarageCuber]

Here is all that stuff that I can tell to u! I hope I can help u out!


Usually ppl, after getting sub 1min solves using friedrich method, just keep on practicing and they improve their finger trick! With F2L they just find pair(slowly and rushing with it) and LL they usually spend a bit more time anylysing the situation and which alg to use! That way they get better times! Sub 50sec maybe even sub 40sec! Masteroustly sub 30... not even possible I think.

Then ppl need to learn to look ahead and stop loking pairs! THEY NEED TO KNOW WHICH 2 PIECES THEY NEED TO PAIR NEXT! If u don´t go slow now ur improve gonna be really slow. Never gonna reach sub 20 in 2 months! All u need to do to get out of this thing is that u do slow solves. I mean u need to do solves keeping on the same speed during this whole solve(NO STOP! NOT EVEN ONE!). If u cant do it start again with slower speed to be able to do this! After u have done this u r going to get faster naturally and then it is gonna effect ur normal solves. Finally they are around same speedy and then u have reached sub 25sec possibly! The main step is F2L holding cube on its angle and do all algs using any fingers u need to use. U can spin cube before starting LL it dont take that much time with around 25 avarages. U gonna learn naturally identify OLL and PLL when u do it more and all u need to do is do whole solves concentrating F2L solding the same angle...no cube rotations as long as u can see next pair. That way ur sub 25sec going to be it can reach closely 20sec avarages... The closer 20sec the better! 25-20sec avarage is just avesome time to try build ur cross better way(less moves)!

Then it is time to learn fingertricks. U have learned all cases and steps with no stops and then u need to learn do them fasts! "No delays" so it is time to do it just faster! Then u can just forget those slow solves and concentrate ur speedy solves! U friends should help u to get it fast scrambling another cube when u are solving another And when u don't have this kinda situation u need to train to do ur LL algs fast! That gonna be till sub 15 avarages...

Then it is just training the whole cube repeating it hundreds of thousand times till u get better and better avarage... ur time gonna stop to around 10 for many weeks but after it u can get better avarages again if u keep on going!


Summarize!
**-40sec -> Do it fastly and try to find ur fingers doing it I mean try to use ur fingers, not only hands xD
40-25sec -> Look ahead mostly during F2L and do slow solves(No stop solves with slower speed!)! Try to keep the same angle during solves!
25-15sec -> Train ur OLLs and PLLs to sub 2-3sec all!
15-0sec -> JUST KEEP ON TRAINING THE WHOLE CUBE TRAIN, TRAIN, TRAIN....


Here is good timetable...isn´t it?
Anything else?

 

[Cyber]

Oh sry no time to response more within 2 days...
but thx for it!

Cookingfat THis is mostly my ambition and I want to do it before graduation and military!

 

[Rubixcubematt]

average cuber is right, you should work on your look-ahead if you want to be insane at the cube. im no expert, coz i need to work on that as well, but if you wanna be as fast as the top cubers, just work on your look-ahead and just gradually get it faster so there are hardly any stops in ur solves

 

[PCwizCube]

Here is all that stuff that I can tell to u! I hope I can help u out!


Usually ppl, after getting sub 1min solves using friedrich method, just keep on practicing and they improve their finger trick! With F2L they just find pair(slowly and rushing with it) and LL they usually spend a bit more time anylysing the situation and which alg to use! That way they get better times! Sub 50sec maybe even sub 40sec! Masteroustly sub 30... not even possible I think.

Then ppl need to learn to look ahead and stop loking pairs! THEY NEED TO KNOW WHICH 2 PIECES THEY NEED TO PAIR NEXT! If u don´t go slow now ur improve gonna be really slow. Never gonna reach sub 20 in 2 months! All u need to do to get out of this thing is that u do slow solves. I mean u need to do solves keeping on the same speed during this whole solve(NO STOP! NOT EVEN ONE!). If u cant do it start again with slower speed to be able to do this! After u have done this u r going to get faster naturally and then it is gonna effect ur normal solves. Finally they are around same speedy and then u have reached sub 25sec possibly! The main step is F2L holding cube on its angle and do all algs using any fingers u need to use. U can spin cube before starting LL it dont take that much time with around 25 avarages. U gonna learn naturally identify OLL and PLL when u do it more and all u need to do is do whole solves concentrating F2L solding the same angle...no cube rotations as long as u can see next pair. That way ur sub 25sec going to be it can reach closely 20sec avarages... The closer 20sec the better! 25-20sec avarage is just avesome time to try build ur cross better way(less moves)!

Then it is time to learn fingertricks. U have learned all cases and steps with no stops and then u need to learn do them fasts! "No delays" so it is time to do it just faster! Then u can just forget those slow solves and concentrate ur speedy solves! U friends should help u to get it fast scrambling another cube when u are solving another And when u don't have this kinda situation u need to train to do ur LL algs fast! That gonna be till sub 15 avarages...

Then it is just training the whole cube repeating it hundreds of thousand times till u get better and better avarage... ur time gonna stop to around 10 for many weeks but after it u can get better avarages again if u keep on going!


Summarize!
**-40sec -> Do it fastly and try to find ur fingers doing it I mean try to use ur fingers, not only hands xD
40-25sec -> Look ahead mostly during F2L and do slow solves(No stop solves with slower speed!)! Try to keep the same angle during solves!
25-15sec -> Train ur OLLs and PLLs to sub 2-3sec all!
15-0sec -> JUST KEEP ON TRAINING THE WHOLE CUBE TRAIN, TRAIN, TRAIN....


Here is good timetable...isn´t it?
Anything else?

Yes, that is completely correct. When you get faster at Fridrich F2L, you have to look at the pair you're going to solve next, not the one you're currently solving. Getting good at this is very hard, and requires A LOT of practice.

And to AverageCuber. When I read your post, I had to re-read it a few times because I got confused from all your grammatical errors. It would be greatly appreciated if you could type with correct English. Thanks!

 

[Swordsman Kirby]

Summarize!
**-40sec -> Do it fastly and try to find ur fingers doing it I mean try to use ur fingers, not only hands xD
40-25sec -> Look ahead mostly during F2L and do slow solves(No stop solves with slower speed!)! Try to keep the same angle during solves!
25-15sec -> Train ur OLLs and PLLs to sub 2-3sec all!
15-0sec -> JUST KEEP ON TRAINING THE WHOLE CUBE TRAIN, TRAIN, TRAIN....

I disagree greatly with 25-15. I still don't know all 41 OLLs and my N perms were still 3+ when I got my first sub-15 average.

Then again, people tell me my F2L is really good.

 

[Escher]

yeah i only know between a third and half of the OLLs, and some of my PLLs are pretty slow, and my best avg of 5 is 17.8x. and i generally avg sub-20...

 

[hawkmp4]

Yes, that is completely correct. When you get faster at Fridrich F2L, you have to look at the pair you're going to solve next, not the one you're currently solving. Getting good at this is very hard, and requires A LOT of practice.

And to AverageCuber. When I read your post, I had to re-read it a few times because I got confused from all your grammatical errors. It would be greatly appreciated if you could type with correct English. Thanks!

Remember that not everyone's first language is English on this forum
And I think that is the absolute key to Fridrich. Work on your cross to F2L transition, I've found that people neglect that a lot, but its very important.

 

[PCwizCube]

Yes, that is completely correct. When you get faster at Fridrich F2L, you have to look at the pair you're going to solve next, not the one you're currently solving. Getting good at this is very hard, and requires A LOT of practice.

And to AverageCuber. When I read your post, I had to re-read it a few times because I got confused from all your grammatical errors. It would be greatly appreciated if you could type with correct English. Thanks!

Remember that not everyone's first language is English on this forum

Wait, were you saying English wasn't my first language, or Averagecuber? And if you were saying that about me, yes, English is not my first language. If you were saying that about Averagecuber, my complaint is he saying "u" and other abbreviations like that. I get confused with "u" and "U-face" and other stuff. I had to re-read each paragraph like 3 times, which is annoying.

 

[hawkmp4]

I was saying that about avaragecuber. I didn't read a whole lot of his post, I just went off your remark about grammatical errors, not bad abbreviations- you're right, that is annoying.

 

[AvarageCuber]

Ok Anyway... Maybe i need to get a little more information! Also I should write "better" english. Sry about it. I think some ppl get contact to net earlier and write usually english. That way they learn more and then they got better english skills. But thx for appreciating it! I really thx for it after a lot of work and info searching! Rubiks Cube Fan! I think u get most of the main things still Hoping this is more clear...

Swordsman kirby and Escher! U desagree with me O.o U have done like it... maybe most of the other ppls too but what do u think? Is it really the most comfortable and fastest way to reach good avarage!? I know a lot ppl(the most of ppl)do other way but is it really like so? This is just what I think! I think it is effective

 

[hawkmp4]

I think all Tim is saying is that he disagrees with you on the time table you set up, but I think your advice is spot on
And your English is understandable, its not by any means bad.

 

[AvarageCuber]

Yeah
What do u think it is faster to get PLLs and OLLs good, as good as F2L and
then continue practicing with whole cube, all steps to improve faster?
I just need to write more forums train english grammatica during it

 

[hawkmp4]

Well, I average about 30 seconds and my last layer is about 10 seconds and F2L is 20 seconds. So I think its going to vary a lot between people. What's important though, is to be able to recognize what OLL/PLL case you have as quickly as possible.

 

[AvarageCuber]

Ok, it is important! It is part of decreasing ur delays beatween steps, it was in the way during trying sub 40sec to sub 25... U dont really hit down my suggestion but u dont really push it up like Rubiks cube fan was doing : DDDDD

 

[cubejunkies]

go for sub 20 by learning full fridrich

 

[hawkmp4]

Sub-20 is very possible without full Fridrich. Earlier in this thread Swordsman_Kirby states that he is sub-15 without full Fridrich.
Read.

 

[AvarageCuber]

yeah it is possible but it is also faster to learn allgs especially cause I heard that he learned all the PLLs in less than 3 days and they got more effect training to get fast as fast as possible? If some1 got perfec guide anyway post it here that I can see it and Cyber can get it I really would appreciate Cybers progress and training count per hours

Also sub 15--- is possible without full friedrich method... I know it but is it worth of it to learn those algs when u are going for good avarages and then u got one hard step during 4 steps, 1-look OLL! Then u just waist time to train it mostly! It is better than learning it earlier and training it with others? No hard steps when u r awesome really? Is it like so?

 

[hawkmp4]

Well, yes, its true that learning a 2 look last layer will improve your move count. But one of my friends knows 2 look last layer, I know 4 look, and his last layer is slower than me because his recognition is so bad, since he learned all the algorithms too quickly.

 

[AvarageCuber]

Yeah that´s usually the point when 2 LLL is learned uick and u are just learned it. So u dont have time to get used to it. It gonna be faster after doing that. Your friend waas as fast as u before he started lelarning it? It can be also finally that u reach the point when 2 LLL is faster than 4LLL after using it around 2 weeks. It is like getting beginners metheds 2 first 2 layers seperated layer combinated F2L. It slows ur cubes avarage but it will defienately improve u after practicing?