[Unofficial] 3x3 Average of 5 - 11.29 (Tips please!)

[Riley]

Any tips will be appreciated, thanks.

 

[jskyler91]

its hard to see what your doing because your cube is practically off camera, but your Oll seems like it needs some work and you cube rotate quite a bit.

 

[Riley]

Thanks, I didn't realize it was so off cam. I'll adjust it next video... But yea, my OLL definitely has some bad algs. And sometimes I find cube rotations faster than non rotating inserts, but maybe I'll learn some new tricks.

 

[drewsopchak]

Tip: Practice.

 

[Riley]

Tip: Practice.

Yea, I usually do between 50-200 solves a day, usually 100 though. Any specific examples of what to practice?

 

[5BLD]

Practice individual steps rather than solving repeatedly. For the past month I've been guilty of this...

After practising individual steps start solving repeatedly to drill in what you just learnt.

 

[drewsopchak]

Practice individual steps rather than solving repeatedly. For the past month I've been guilty of this...

After practising individual steps start solving repeatedly to drill in what you just learnt.

Do you think loosening cubes a bit each month helps? I heard you do that.

 

[jskyler91]

Practice individual steps rather than solving repeatedly. For the past month I've been guilty of this...

After practising individual steps start solving repeatedly to drill in what you just learnt.

I would really recommend this as well, particularly you should spend time on your cross, and OLL/PLL IMO. Also if you want so tricks for F2l, I have a bunch and i put them in my F2L vid here:http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/s...2L-Algs-from-All-4-Angles&p=729015#post729015

 

[drewsopchak]

I would really recommend this as well, particularly you should spend time on your cross, and OLL/PLL IMO. Also if you want so tricks for F2l, I have a bunch and i put them in my F2L vid here:http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/s...2L-Algs-from-All-4-Angles&p=729015#post729015

I'm not convinced. It seems to be most efficient to just do solves.

 

[jskyler91]

I'm not convinced. It seems to be most efficient to just do solves.

Not if you have weaknesses, once you have mastered as much as you can outside of solving then you should just do solves to improve lookahead and tps, but I very stongly believe one should try to perfect their method to the best of their ability before they try doing it faster.

 

[drewsopchak]

Not if you have weaknesses, once you have mastered as much as you can outside of solving then you should just do solves to improve lookahead and tps, but I very stongly believe one should try to perfect their method to the best of their ability before they try doing it faster.

Don't you develop your method by doing solves? anyway, I've never heard of any world class cubers practicing parts of a solve. I guess it's worth a try though. Wouldn't practicing parts of one's solving create weaknesses?

 

[jskyler91]

Don't you develop your method by doing solves? anyway, I've never heard of any world class cubers practicing parts of a solve. I guess it's worth a try though. Wouldn't practicing parts of one's solving create weaknesses?

Are you serious? Brendan spends (spent now) tons of time perfecting his OLL's and PLL, he used to do PLL attacks all the time. Same thing with Rowe and OLL skips, he has spent a lot of time memorizing them. I am not sure about feliks, but I am sure he spent some time getting good at crosses and mastering his f2l. Also, how would it create weaknesses? The goal is to even everything out. If you get better at one thing then you make all other things at the same level, one should try their best to be well rounded if they want to be great. Look at all of the best cubers, they are all really good at cross, excellent at f2l and have blazing fast last layers. Its never a bad Idea to be smart about how you practice. BTW, this may have sounded angry or attacking, but it was not meant to be, I was just pointing out where I had seen people who had done things contrary to what you said.

 

[jeff081692]

Wouldn't practicing parts of one's solving create weaknesses?

It depends. If you spend all your time on your weakness you can eliminate it faster, but you might get slower in other steps but it is not hard to regain your full speed back.
What I do is focus on parts I want to improve on but also do normal solves so my training is not completely on one thing.
My weaknesses get extra attention but also I get the benefit of doing regular solves.

 

[drewsopchak]

It depends. If you spend all your time on your weakness you can eliminate it faster, but you might get slower in other steps but it is not hard to regain your full speed back.
What I do is focus on parts I want to improve on but also do normal solves so my training is not completely on one thing.
My weaknesses get extra attention but also I get the benefit of doing regular solves.

When you average what you do, you can improve in everything so you might as well so regular solves.

 

[a small kitten]

Don't you develop your method by doing solves? anyway, I've never heard of any world class cubers practicing parts of a solve. I guess it's worth a try though. Wouldn't practicing parts of one's solving create weaknesses?

I'm going to have to side with Mr. Skyler. Of course, you will always have things to work on. However, if you have significant weaknesses, it's best to address them up before doing repetitive practice. That way, you don't repeat things you're doing poorly.

As for myself, I definitely practice parts of solves; sometimes to a systematic point. In my own solving, I know that my LL is pretty quick. There are a few PLLs that I don't do as well as others. Normally, in one practice session, I devote my time practicing my weaker PLLs. I also know that because my f2l is block oriented, I need to practice low move count EO lines and good first block selection. I spend a lot of time doing untimed solves to hone my ability to find good blocks. When I do this, I solve f2l only and scramble immediately after the f2l is solved. This lets me address my weaknesses more directly.

When you average what you do, you can improve in everything so you might as well so regular solves.

In my case specifically, there is a physical limit to how much practice I can get in one session. Practicing smart allows me to get the most out of the session. I don't think exhaustion is such an issue with 2H, but practicing smart would probably save time and energy anyway.

 

[jskyler91]

It depends. If you spend all your time on your weakness you can eliminate it faster, but you might get slower in other steps but it is not hard to regain your full speed back.
What I do is focus on parts I want to improve on but also do normal solves so my training is not completely on one thing.
My weaknesses get extra attention but also I get the benefit of doing regular solves.

The best median is probably to do A LOT of slow solves without inspection, this way you can practice all parts together, however there are still many times when it is better to focus on one thing and master it such as OLL/PLL or a new method or R-OLL or 2 Side recog, etc. I would say crosses is part of this list.

Keep in mind here that I am not interesting in being fast now, but rather being really fast later.

 

[drewsopchak]

The best median is probably to do A LOT of slow solves without inspection, this way you can practice all parts together, however there are still many times when it is better to focus on one thing and master it such as OLL/PLL or a new method or R-OLL or 2 Side recog, etc. I would say crosses is part of this list.

Keep in mind here that I am not interesting in being fast now, but rather being really fast later.

I think it's important to use all of your inspection time. It's important to look as much into your solves as possible. just solve the cube a ton. That's how you get fast.

 

[jskyler91]

I think it's important to use all of your inspection time. It's important to look as much into your solves as possible. just solve the cube a ton. That's how you get fast.

The point of not having inspection is to learn to see new things like x-cross and your first/ second f2l pair, and practice planning them out all in your head. You can feel free to just solve cubes all day and not practice anything, but I am pretty certain you are going to max out at like 10 seconds and then be frustrated as to why you can't improve. The thing is you need to stop yourself from developing bad habits such as unnecessary regrips, moving before your know what your are doing and looking ahead at the wrong time / in the wrong ways. These are things that you have to slow down and practice doing, they very rarely come about simply by solving as fast as you can all of the time. I agree that your method will get you sort of quick (sub 12) faster, but it will make being sub 10 or sub 9 incredibly difficult. I am more focused on maxing out my potential with my method before i start really speeding it up. With what i now now from practicing so much on the individual parts I am certain that I could be sub 10 if I turned up the speed, but I don't just want to be sub 10 I want to be sub 8 or sub 7 even someday so I am not going to take the fun route of getting fast until I have packed up all of my goods first. Again, not a personal attack just me ranting about a common mentality in cubers that I disagree with.

 

[drewsopchak]

The point of not having inspection is to learn to see new things like x-cross and your first/ second f2l pair, and practice planning them out all in your head. You can feel free to just solve cubes all day and not practice anything, but I am pretty certain you are going to max out at like 10 seconds and then be frustrated as to why you can't improve. The thing is you need to stop yourself from developing bad habits such as unnecessary regrips, moving before your know what your are doing and looking ahead at the wrong time / in the wrong ways. These are things that you have to slow down and practice doing, they very rarely come about simply by solving as fast as you can all of the time. I agree that your method will get you sort of quick (sub 12) faster, but it will make being sub 10 or sub 9 incredibly difficult. I am more focused on maxing out my potential with my method before i start really speeding it up. With what i now now from practicing so much on the individual parts I am certain that I could be sub 10 if I turned up the speed, but I don't just want to be sub 10 I want to be sub 8 or sub 7 even someday so I am not going to take the fun route of getting fast until I have packed up all of my goods first. Again, not a personal attack just me ranting about a common mentality in cubers that I disagree with.

HA! It's not like I'm saying to not use a good method/fingertricks/regrips ect, I'm saying, there is no point in just practicing cross, or just f2l.

 

[a small kitten]

HA! It's not like I'm saying to not use a good method/fingertricks/regrips ect, I'm saying, there is no point in just practicing cross, or just f2l.

Are you sure? If you just solved crosses, you'll get a lot more cross practice than if you did entire solves in a certain period of time.