New semi-advanced method (FMEOP)

[qqwref]

Yes, this method is faster than beginner, but you're moving in the wrong direction if you want to learn Fridrich F2L. Getting used to this will only make it harder to do F2L pairs.

If you want to learn F2L, you should start playing around with pairing up corners and middle edges without destroying the cross. After a while you will start to develop a feel for it, and then learning F2L algorithms (not memorizing the moves, but understand the way they put the pieces together) will be easy - it's quite possible to do it within a day. You should be treating the F2L algorithms as just ways to pair and insert the pieces, and when you understand them you should be able to do it from any angle.

 

[Dane man]

Yes, this method is faster than beginner, but you're moving in the wrong direction if you want to learn Fridrich F2L. Getting used to this will only make it harder to do F2L pairs.

If you want to learn F2L, you should start playing around with pairing up corners and middle edges without destroying the cross. After a while you will start to develop a feel for it, and then learning F2L algorithms (not memorizing the moves, but understand the way they put the pieces together) will be easy - it's quite possible to do it within a day. You should be treating the F2L algorithms as just ways to pair and insert the pieces, and when you understand them you should be able to do it from any angle.

Thats the whole point of my F2L strategy. Not a lot of algs, mostly intuitive.

 

[Kirjava]

You're missing the point of what qqwref said entirely.

Anyway, seems like you're too blinded by the GLORY OF USING YOUR OWN INVENTED METHOD OMG (that already existed) to listen to advice that contradicts it.

Have fun being mediocre.

 

[Dane man]

You're missing the point of what qqwref said entirely.

Anyway, seems like you're too blinded by the GLORY OF USING YOUR OWN INVENTED METHOD OMG (that already existed) to listen to advice that contradicts it.

Have fun being mediocre.

Dont be a jerk. I'm serious. The point of my F2L was exactly that, to give the cuber a feel for pairing up corners and edges without destoying the cross, but with a little more freedom. I understood completely what qqwref said.

 

[Kirjava]

Dont be a jerk. I'm serious.

UR SRS?

The point of my F2L was exactly that, to give the cuber a feel for pairing up corners and edges without destoying the cross

No it isn't, otherwise the first step would be to make a cross.

I understood completely what qqwref said.

No you didn't, otherwise you'd realise that the technique is more of a tangent from the LBL -> F2L progression rather than a stepping stone.

 

[Carrot]

GO JAPAN!!

 

[qqwref]

The point of my F2L was exactly that, to give the cuber a feel for pairing up corners and edges without destoying the cross, but with a little more freedom.

No, when I say "without destroying the cross" I mean there IS a full cross, but there aren't other corners in the first layer. Your idea encompasses very much different techniques and is more similar to the first block in Roux than it is to Fridrich F2L.

 

[Dane man]

@Kirjava: You should probably read my original post.

@qqwref: True. True.

 

[Kirjava]

@Kirjava: You should probably read my original post.

...you'd realise that the technique is more of a tangent from the LBL -> F2L progression rather than a stepping stone.

I'm developing a new method for those who want to transition from beginner method to CFOP.

I started helping you but got quickly bored of that when you ignored me.

 

[Dane man]

@Kirjava: You should probably read my original post.

...you'd realise that the technique is more of a tangent from the LBL -> F2L progression rather than a stepping stone.

I'm developing a new method for those who want to transition from beginner method to CFOP.

I started helping you but got quickly bored of that when you ignored me.

LBL is the beginner method I'm talking about.

 

[Kirjava]

Same here. I don't think you understand the word 'tangent'.

 

[Dane man]

Same here. I don't think you understand the word 'tangent'.

So your saying it's side-ways instead of forwards?

This is a two step first two layers, where LBL is three step. I'd say thats forward.

 

[Gavin]

Instead of breaking the First 2 layers as fedges (fcorners, medges), break it as (fcorners, fedges) medges. Doing the whole first layer in one step (not one algorithm) like the F2L step in CFOP.

Pairs of edges and corners are identified, and solved into place together. Pairs can be paired up clockwise or counter clockwise (if you chose red edge the corresponding corner would be the red-blue or red-green if your first layer is white).

From what I understand this seems quite unnecessary. You are trying to pair up a cross edge with a corner and then insert it? If you can figure out how to make the pairs, it seems as though you are better off just doing CFOP...

Thats the whole point of my F2L strategy. Not a lot of algs, mostly intuitive.

Is that not the point of CFOP F2L?

 

[Kirjava]

You still do not understand what I am saying.

This is not a stepping stone to F2L. It is something else altogether.

Also, I'm going to post this video now to kill your boner;

The video is about a year old~

 

[Dane man]

This is not a stepping stone to F2L. It is something else altogether.

That's your opinion.

 

[Gavin]

You still do not understand what I am saying.

This is not a stepping stone to F2L. It is something else altogether.

Pretty much what Kirjava said, I don't see how this will help transition to CFOP other than making it more annoying when you want to switch to standard CFOP F2L.

 

[Kirjava]

That's your opinion.

It appears to be your opinion too, considering you agreed when qqwref explained the exact same thing.

 

[endless_akatsuki]

That's your opinion.

It appears to be your opinion too, considering you agreed when qqwref explained the exact same thing.

LOL

 

[Dane man]

That's your opinion.

It appears to be your opinion too, considering you agreed when qqwref explained the exact same thing.

What qqwref said explained exactly why mine helps with the CFOP F2L.

Maybe i didn't explain it right the first time.

 

[amostay2004]

My advice is to actually practise and understand CFOP before developing a transition to a method you don't grasp yet.