SaberSlash49
Veteran
@Mr.Giggums&Choza - Thanks. I average around sub-34 so this seems ideal for me.. Do we discuss anything here or just "race" to sub-30 average and move on?
"NEW" Race to Sub-30!
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28.83
25.96, (32.63), 32.15, 31.37, (24.69), 29.21, 29.73, 27.96, 26.88, 29.58, 28.16, 27.34
I guess I just needed to warm up before it was all sub-30...I'll remember that next time lol.
I'm surprised my break from cubing didn't make me worse...usually when I take a break I get a lot worse.
25.96, (32.63), 32.15, 31.37, (24.69), 29.21, 29.73, 27.96, 26.88, 29.58, 28.16, 27.34
I guess I just needed to warm up before it was all sub-30...I'll remember that next time lol.
I'm surprised my break from cubing didn't make me worse...usually when I take a break I get a lot worse.
choza244
Veteran
is just to push yourself and practice every week so you can get sub 30, as i remember we didn't discuss anything here
SaberSlash49
Veteran
34.19
Statistics for 06-30-2010 13:04:38
Cubes Solved: 12/12
Number of Pops: 0
Average: 34.19
Standard Deviation: 4.63
Best Time: 27.52
Worst Time: 42.42
Individual Times:
1. 34.16
2. 36.45
3. 42.20
4. 30.96
5. 29.49
6. 31.83
7. 36.84+
8. 42.42
9. 33.87
10. 35.73
11. 27.52
12. 28.84
The 2 42s raised my average..
Otherwise a very nice average.
Statistics for 06-30-2010 13:04:38
Cubes Solved: 12/12
Number of Pops: 0
Average: 34.19
Standard Deviation: 4.63
Best Time: 27.52
Worst Time: 42.42
Individual Times:
1. 34.16
2. 36.45
3. 42.20
4. 30.96
5. 29.49
6. 31.83
7. 36.84+
8. 42.42
9. 33.87
10. 35.73
11. 27.52
12. 28.84
The 2 42s raised my average..
Otherwise a very nice average.
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mr. giggums
Veteran
Statistics for 06-30-2010 13:04:38
Cubes Solved: 12/12
Number of Pops: 0
Average: 34.19
Standard Deviation: 4.63
Best Time: 27.52
Worst Time: 42.42
Individual Times:
1. 34.16
2. 36.45
3. 42.20
4. 30.96
5. 29.49
6. 31.83
7. 36.84+
8. 42.42
9. 33.87
10. 35.73
11. 27.52
12. 28.84
The 2 42s raised my average..
Otherwise a very nice average.
You might want to see the first post (quoted below). You also should read the rules.
Carson
Premium Member
is just to push yourself and practice every week so you can get sub 30, as i remember we didn't discuss anything here
I had actually envisioned more discussion taking place here.... tips, videos with critiques, etc... but that hasn't happened thus far. Feel free to post anything relating to the "Quest for Sub-30 Domination"... just don't spam useless gibberish about how great your garden is doing this year or about how your Dalmatian is allergic to scented hair gel.
Yea, I keep meaning to make a video but then I keep forgetting...maybe next time...
is just to push yourself and practice every week so you can get sub 30, as i remember we didn't discuss anything here
I had actually envisioned more discussion taking place here.... tips, videos with critiques, etc... but that hasn't happened thus far. Feel free to post anything relating to the "Quest for Sub-30 Domination"... just don't spam useless gibberish about how great your garden is doing this year or about how your Dalmatian is allergic to scented hair gel.
uberCuber
Legend
Ok I'm finally joining this..i think i might be the worst out of everyone particicpating but its ok 
Average: 43.31
(53.84), 51.46, 42.07, 50.11, (36.23), 47.72, 36.24, 38.52, 43.77, 39.92, 42.92, 40.40
These were the first solves i did today...the first couple 50+ times show that
EDIT: Best avg5 39.51..new pb
Average: 43.31
(53.84), 51.46, 42.07, 50.11, (36.23), 47.72, 36.24, 38.52, 43.77, 39.92, 42.92, 40.40
These were the first solves i did today...the first couple 50+ times show that
EDIT: Best avg5 39.51..new pb
AngeL
Regular
Well, if we want to get some discussion going, how about everyone post their breakdowns? People who are stronger in one area can help out those who are weak in that same area.
For me:
Cross: 2 seconds
F2L: 17-19 seconds
Last Layer: 12 seconds (OLL around 4 seconds, PLL around 8)
My last layer really needs work. I need to memorize more algs and improve my recognition I think. I'm really only using about 3 PLL's for 95% of my solves, even though I know close to a dozen. I've basically been focusing on nothing but my F2L for a while, and it's been giving me a good drop in times, but a better last layer could definitely put me into the solid sub-30 range.
I think I'm gonna put the timer away for a while and focus on just learning algs and practicing recognition and execution, then come back in a couple weeks and hopefully be sub-30 by then.
For me:
Cross: 2 seconds
F2L: 17-19 seconds
Last Layer: 12 seconds (OLL around 4 seconds, PLL around 8)
My last layer really needs work. I need to memorize more algs and improve my recognition I think. I'm really only using about 3 PLL's for 95% of my solves, even though I know close to a dozen. I've basically been focusing on nothing but my F2L for a while, and it's been giving me a good drop in times, but a better last layer could definitely put me into the solid sub-30 range.
I think I'm gonna put the timer away for a while and focus on just learning algs and practicing recognition and execution, then come back in a couple weeks and hopefully be sub-30 by then.
EnterPseudonym
Veteran
For me:
Cross: 3-4s
F2L: 17s avg
LL: 10sec
I'm focusing on F2L at the moment but it doesn't seem to be paying off well.
Cross: 3-4s
F2L: 17s avg
LL: 10sec
I'm focusing on F2L at the moment but it doesn't seem to be paying off well.
TheCubeMaster5000
Veteran
Ok I'm finally joining this..i think i might be the worst out of everyone particicpating but its ok
The point is not to be first anyway!
Cross:4-6s
F2L:15s
OLL:3-4s
PLL:3-7s (I rely on getting PLL cases I already know to get good times...)
Cross: 5-8 seconds (yesiknowitsucksdonteventellme)
F2L: 12-15 seconds (I think; when I actually time sub-steps I mess up a lot so I don't really know, but a lot of the time I finish F2L around 20 seconds after the solve started, give or take)
LL: 8-10 seconds unless I forget an algorithm then it's longer <.< (3-4 seconds for 2LOLL, 4-6 for 2LPLL)
Actually what I do for PLL, since I suck at A-perms, instead of trying to improve them, I actually just set it up so there are 2 solved corners and 2 unsolved corners, then I do a T-perm and then a U-perm to solve the edges. Unless it's an actual A-perm (not just part of the 2LOLL), then I just do the A-perm alg. It's faster for me, anyway. The PLLs I know apart from the 2LPLL ones are T, Js, Rs, and Y. (I also use Y in the same way as I do T because my E-perm also sucks, unless I have a real E-perm)
And for the cross, I've been working on doing relative position, making better use of my inspection time, etc. but it doesn't really seem to be getting better...
F2L: 12-15 seconds (I think; when I actually time sub-steps I mess up a lot so I don't really know, but a lot of the time I finish F2L around 20 seconds after the solve started, give or take)
LL: 8-10 seconds unless I forget an algorithm then it's longer <.< (3-4 seconds for 2LOLL, 4-6 for 2LPLL)
Actually what I do for PLL, since I suck at A-perms, instead of trying to improve them, I actually just set it up so there are 2 solved corners and 2 unsolved corners, then I do a T-perm and then a U-perm to solve the edges. Unless it's an actual A-perm (not just part of the 2LOLL), then I just do the A-perm alg. It's faster for me, anyway. The PLLs I know apart from the 2LPLL ones are T, Js, Rs, and Y. (I also use Y in the same way as I do T because my E-perm also sucks, unless I have a real E-perm)
And for the cross, I've been working on doing relative position, making better use of my inspection time, etc. but it doesn't really seem to be getting better...
AngeL
Regular
^Do the cross with your eyes closed for a few days. I went from 8 second crosses to 2 second crosses in less than a week that way.
Carson
Premium Member
I second this... and also start with solving two cross pieces with your eyes closes, then add a third, then a fourth.
SaberSlash49
Veteran
@Angel (breakdown discussion)
Cross: 2 - 5 seconds
F2L: 15 - 22 seconds
2-Look OLL: 2 - 5 seconds
***2-LookPLL: 2 - 4 seconds
My cross isn't the best but I can come up with good fingertrick friendly crosses so it works out nicely. My F2L is decent and I've been improving on my F2L noticeably. I've got 2-look OLL which is good for me and I've got an unorthodox PLL step..
***I know A's, E, H, J's, T, U's, Y and Z which is 11 so I can typically do 1-look. I only use A's for their cases or G's. R's I put headlights on left and perform T, then whichever U is needed. N's I use a Y and then required U. V I use a Y and then the required U. F I put bar on left, then T+H and that covers all the PLLs.
U = "U" PLL btw in case you get confused.
Also, when is the ideal time to start learning full PLL? I know alot of people can get around sub-22 with 4LLL but I was just curious.
If you add up the left column that would be a lucky solve. Right is a typical solve but that adds up to 36 but I average around 33 so I'm not sure where I slipped up.
Cross: 2 - 5 seconds
F2L: 15 - 22 seconds
2-Look OLL: 2 - 5 seconds
***2-LookPLL: 2 - 4 seconds
My cross isn't the best but I can come up with good fingertrick friendly crosses so it works out nicely. My F2L is decent and I've been improving on my F2L noticeably. I've got 2-look OLL which is good for me and I've got an unorthodox PLL step..
***I know A's, E, H, J's, T, U's, Y and Z which is 11 so I can typically do 1-look. I only use A's for their cases or G's. R's I put headlights on left and perform T, then whichever U is needed. N's I use a Y and then required U. V I use a Y and then the required U. F I put bar on left, then T+H and that covers all the PLLs.
U = "U" PLL btw in case you get confused.
Also, when is the ideal time to start learning full PLL? I know alot of people can get around sub-22 with 4LLL but I was just curious.
If you add up the left column that would be a lucky solve. Right is a typical solve but that adds up to 36 but I average around 33 so I'm not sure where I slipped up.
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Carson
Premium Member
There is no right or wrong time to learn full PLL. You really aren't changing your method, you are only integrating new things into the method you already use. I think you should begin learning full pll immediately after you have 2 look pll down. Just learn one new alg, or pair of algs, and wait until you are comfortable before adding any additional ones. For some people, this could probably be accomplished in a few days, for some weeks... or in my case, 1.5 years...
Krag
Premium Member
round 9
Avarage: 32.84
1. 33.62
2. 29.20
3. (36.52)
4. (26.45)
5. 33.22
6. 35.46
7. 32.37
8. 33.92
9. 34.21
10. 34.94
11. 32.99
12. 28.46
Avarage: 32.84
1. 33.62
2. 29.20
3. (36.52)
4. (26.45)
5. 33.22
6. 35.46
7. 32.37
8. 33.92
9. 34.21
10. 34.94
11. 32.99
12. 28.46
ariasamie
Veteran
wow! nice idea! i will try it!
uberCuber
Legend
ok i pretty much know what i need to work on but i will post anyway
Cross: 5-8 seconds (I will try the idea of solving the cross with eyes closed..sounds promising)
F2L: 22-30 seconds (this is my main problem..i use too many fingertricks and what not when I find a pair, so i don't give myself enough lookahead time)
Last Layer: 6-9 seconds (I use 2LOLL, but know full PLL. I usually do these algorithms very quickly and am good at OLL look-ahead.)
Cross: 5-8 seconds (I will try the idea of solving the cross with eyes closed..sounds promising
)F2L: 22-30 seconds (this is my main problem..i use too many fingertricks and what not when I find a pair, so i don't give myself enough lookahead time)
Last Layer: 6-9 seconds (I use 2LOLL, but know full PLL. I usually do these algorithms very quickly and am good at OLL look-ahead.)
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