Human Cloning

[Edward]

Just don't clone Felix.

Who? :rolleyes:

 

[sequencius]

Not a good idea. See stories like "Brave New World".

 

[Zane_C]

There's already too many people in this world, we don't need to clone.

 

[Thomas09]

There's already too many people in this world, we don't need to clone.

+1. What about all the people who are then unemployed? But it's also a matter of who. For example, you won't clone an old person, they'll die soon.

 

[aronpm]

For example, you won't clone an old person, they'll die soon.

Learn how cloning works. :fp

 

[riffz]

what benefit is there?

I doubt people would be studying it right now if there were no use at all...

If this were true then Pure mathematicians and philosophers would be out of jobs. Sometimes we do things out of curiosity and for the sake of furthering our understanding of how things work, regardless of the benefits.

But I think the purpose of human cloning research is more for the purpose of organ farming like Kian said, rather than making copies of ourselves. I agree with Dan about population issues.

 

[JBCM627]

I doubt people would be studying it right now if there were no use at all...

If this were true then Pure mathematicians and philosophers would be out of jobs. Sometimes we do things out of curiosity and for the sake of furthering our understanding of how things work, regardless of the benefits.

Sure, but this isn't one of those cases. Cloning is expensive.

 

[Escher]

Yep. In regards to ethics, all cloning really is is giving somebody a twin. I don't believe in any sort of 'sanctity of life' so it does not particularly worry me.

Will edit later with a bit more.

 

[sequencius]

Imagine if they cloned the gingers.. =O

 

[Inf3rn0]

Imagine if they cloned the gingers.. =O

Or even worse, stupid people.

I say no to the cloning thing until a really good reason is proposed.

 

[Hadley4000]

Or even worse, stupid people.

*Shudder*
There are FAR too many of those in the world as it is.

 

[r_517]

no. never.

 

[qqwref]

Yep. In regards to ethics, all cloning really is is giving somebody a twin. I don't believe in any sort of 'sanctity of life' so it does not particularly worry me.

This.

If someone wants to create a genetic duplicate of themselves (and they have the resources to do it), I say go ahead. Remember that clones need to be raised, fed, etc. as much as any other children, so it's not like you can realistically cause overpopulation by cloning, and it's not like someone's gonna go create some kind of clone army. Nowadays there are two options for kids (naturally create or adopt) and if you introduce cloning all it means is there is a third option (naturally create, adopt, or copy someone).

 

[Edward]

Or even worse, stupid people.

*Shudder*
There are FAR too many of those in the world as it is.

You're not born stupid (assuming there's no brain disorder), you're only raised stupid.

 

[Dene]

Or even worse, stupid people.

*Shudder*
There are FAR too many of those in the world as it is.

You're not born stupid (assuming there's no brain disorder), you're only raised stupid.

Actually, the potential to become smarter is largely genetic. For example, levels of attention, and natural ability to learn. These two factors strongly affect an ability to become intelligent.

 

[RyanO]

Or even worse, stupid people.

*Shudder*
There are FAR too many of those in the world as it is.

You're not born stupid (assuming there's no brain disorder), you're only raised stupid.

Actually, the potential to become smarter is largely genetic. For example, levels of attention, and natural ability to learn. These two factors strongly affect an ability to become intelligent.

Yep, the assertion that all people are created equal is ridiculous.

 

[Cride5]

Why not? If the reasoning goes along the lines of 'its not natural', then you might as well throw away your cubes, ditch your computer, car, clothes etc and go live in a cave.

I think there is no problem with doing it from an ethical point of view, so long as the clone is given a proper up-bringing and treated the same as anyone else. From the clone's perspective it would be little different to being an IVF'd twin sibling.

 

[Cyrus C.]

Clone organs, don't make whole humans for an organ farm. Anyone read "House of the Scorpion?"

 

[RyanO]

I thought this forum was against knockoffs.

Good point - Dan, you should close the thread.

I'm assuming most clones would be made with the permission of the original, so the clone isn't really a KO. Besides, I don't recall any cases of people copywriting their DNA.

 

[Daniel Wu]

Just no.