joey
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Yeah tim, I never said you were fast. I just said one of the fastest 
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DennisStrehlau
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yeah, that's true, he really is one of the fastest...
i never care about the time, i just want to do many cubes and as long as i am not over the time limit, everything is okay...
so i do not PRACTISE speed in multi-bld, but it practises itself when you do often multi-bld...so you get faster automatically...
Greetings...Dennis
i never care about the time, i just want to do many cubes and as long as i am not over the time limit, everything is okay...
so i do not PRACTISE speed in multi-bld, but it practises itself when you do often multi-bld...so you get faster automatically...
Greetings...Dennis
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So what are exactly "fixed images", images that are not attached to a letter?
joey
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Fixed images is where each piece has a dedicated image.
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Sorry Dennis, but you are only allowed one try every week. You can try to do 10 (use scramble 6 to 15) and post it as an unofficial result. Next competition starts tuesday/wednesday night change so you don't have to wait long for your next official attemptthat's very good...try try try...never give up
@ArnaudvG: i think i will try 10 cubes tomorrow for the weekly comp.
i never knew, what this weekly comp. is but now i know it, cause i was looking around on the page a bit
Greetings...Dennis
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Dene
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Ok, so here's an interesting idea, does anybody do multi-BLD relays, like, 2x2x2, 3x3x3, 4x4x4, 5x5x5 BLD? I wonder how fast Mr. Kuti could do that!
EDIT: I mean at the same time of course, in case that wasn't clear, (memo all, solve all, to be quite explicit).
EDIT: I mean at the same time of course, in case that wasn't clear, (memo all, solve all, to be quite explicit).
joey
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Yup. http://www.speedcubing.com/records/recs_bf_relays.html
#1 on there is amazing, blows my mind everytime I read it.
#1 on there is amazing, blows my mind everytime I read it.
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WOW!! He did four 4x4x4's? There has to be something funny going on inside his head, that is inhuman!! He never fails to amaze me! And he just throws in a square-1 for fun? Crazy! He must have memoed those 4x4x4's in about 3 minutes each, and the 5x5x5's about the same!! Oh I can't get over this, it is just crazy. Interesting also that he did it one day after my birthday last year . That's a better present that what I got from my parents ^^ .
. That's a better present that what I got from my parents ^^ .
DennisStrehlau
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YES!
the most funny thing is, that he has to memorize the square 1 in 13 minutes, cause he had to thin, wich piece would be where, when it is in cube-sharp
so the other 13 minutes for the rest of the cubes!!!
Greetingd...Dennis
the most funny thing is, that he has to memorize the square 1 in 13 minutes, cause he had to thin, wich piece would be where, when it is in cube-sharp
so the other 13 minutes for the rest of the cubes
!!!Greetingd...Dennis
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2 5x5x5 Cube
1 Square-1
4 4x4x4 Cube
1 Rubik's Cube
3 2x2x2 Cube
Damn, is he crazy??? I bet he never practiced this, just like:
Boored...what can I do this sunny morning...
Mom: Darling, I prepare the meal, get down in one hour!!
Matyas: kk, mom, I'll be ready!
Okay, so let's grab as many cube-like stuff as I can carry, wanna have some fun, maybe do them blindfolded, what do we have here? 2 5x5, a square-1...no matter what...where's my guy to scramble all that stuff???
Damn....have to do it myself...
(Half an hour later, no, he has not scrambled, but already memorized...) "Darling, are you fine?"
"Yes, mum, but tell me the story of uncle Ádam again, otherwise I'm so bored solving all this stuff blindfolded!"
....
He's amazing...
1 Square-1
4 4x4x4 Cube
1 Rubik's Cube
3 2x2x2 Cube
Damn, is he crazy??? I bet he never practiced this, just like:
Boored...what can I do this sunny morning...
Mom: Darling, I prepare the meal, get down in one hour!!
Matyas: kk, mom, I'll be ready!
Okay, so let's grab as many cube-like stuff as I can carry, wanna have some fun, maybe do them blindfolded, what do we have here? 2 5x5, a square-1...no matter what...where's my guy to scramble all that stuff???
Damn....have to do it myself...
(Half an hour later, no, he has not scrambled, but already memorized...) "Darling, are you fine?"
"Yes, mum, but tell me the story of uncle Ádam again, otherwise I'm so bored solving all this stuff blindfolded!"
....
He's amazing...
DennisStrehlau
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@Robin:
i think that is is absolutely possibe
great strory
Greetings...Dennis
i think that is is absolutely possibe
great strory
Greetings...Dennis
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Alex, since I am doing separate memorization for orient and permute, I only need 12 letters for edges and 8 more for corners, so I use different letters for edges and corners - edges are A-L and corners are M-T. So I never get them confused.
For big cubes, I go a different route. I always start my cycle with a person, then use 2-letter images for the rest of the cycle. Then, I have 4 separate categories of person (actors, people I know, cartoon characters, musicians), one for each type of piece (central edges, x centers, wings, + centers, respectively). So I know when I'm done with a type of piece based on switching the category of person that my cycle starts with. I could do that on multi-BLD as well, but I only have 4 categories of person, and I find that they're better used distinguishing between cubes. So my first cube will be actors, the second will be people I know, etc. Now that I'm up to 5 (6 next week), I have to use some categories twice, but at least it helps keep the cubes separated in my mind.
For big cubes, I go a different route. I always start my cycle with a person, then use 2-letter images for the rest of the cycle. Then, I have 4 separate categories of person (actors, people I know, cartoon characters, musicians), one for each type of piece (central edges, x centers, wings, + centers, respectively). So I know when I'm done with a type of piece based on switching the category of person that my cycle starts with. I could do that on multi-BLD as well, but I only have 4 categories of person, and I find that they're better used distinguishing between cubes. So my first cube will be actors, the second will be people I know, etc. Now that I'm up to 5 (6 next week), I have to use some categories twice, but at least it helps keep the cubes separated in my mind.
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Hi,
I like your method for big cubes blindfolded. I have started coming up with images for corners and edges. I have almost completed a set of two images from A-V, just need the Q's. (One for edges, the other for corners.) I am going to place these images on a journey. I also hope to have about 5-10 images for corners and edges eventually. (For multi bld)
I was also thinking that for edges, I could have images that have vowels a or e in them. So, for example, an edge image for piece B could be bread, blade, bead, or bed. For corner pieces, I could use vowels i, o, and u. So, an image for corner B could be bowl, bill, or bull. I like this way because it is very easy and intuitive to come up with new images for multi bld, etc.
I am still debating about which one to use. Give me some opinions on both of my ideas.
Hi,
I like your method for big cubes blindfolded. I have started coming up with images for corners and edges. I have almost completed a set of two images from A-V, just need the Q's. (One for edges, the other for corners.) I am going to place these images on a journey. I also hope to have about 5-10 images for corners and edges eventually. (For multi bld)
I was also thinking that for edges, I could have images that have vowels a or e in them. So, for example, an edge image for piece B could be bread, blade, bead, or bed. For corner pieces, I could use vowels i, o, and u. So, an image for corner B could be bowl, bill, or bull. I like this way because it is very easy and intuitive to come up with new images for multi bld, etc.
I am still debating about which one to use. Give me some opinions on both of my ideas.
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Those certainly sound like workable ideas. The big difference between your approach and mine is that I took to using letter pairs, like Chris Hardwick and Daniel Beyer do. The obvious reason for doing this is that you have less images to memorize, but Tim Habermaas has pointed out that it's really not that different to memorize two images than one, and he's certainly one of the world's best, so if it works for him, I'm not about to knock it. But for me, the other advantage with memorizing pairs is that it leads to a much larger range of possible images, which tends to make each attempt easier to remember and keep straight from other attempts for me. I don't find it that difficult to do quite a few attempts back-to-back, and I think that using letter pairs helps that a lot. Of course, it's a lot more to memorize to get a list for letter pairs; that's why up until recently I just constructed my letter pair images on the fly as I needed them. But memorizing them has greatly improved my speed. There are some other minor advantages with letter pairs as well in the execution - like for instance, pairing them up is particularly helpful for M2 or r2, since you can keep track of the position of the centers easier.
I do have single letter images for the starting and endings of cycles - I just use the letter pairs for the rest of the cycles. I therefore have the distinguishing types based on the person that starts the cycle, and then my letter pairs all use a shared set of images. So if I had + centers that went C G H K M, I'd memorize Cher meeting a GHost wearing a KiMono. But if I had wings that went C G H K M, I'd memorize Casper being a GHost and wearing a KiMono. The person clues me into which type of piece I'm solving. If a cycle spreads to multiple locations, I reuse the person from the start of the cycle at the next location, so it covers everything.
I particularly like your idea of distinguishing the types by which vowels you use - that's nice.
I do have single letter images for the starting and endings of cycles - I just use the letter pairs for the rest of the cycles. I therefore have the distinguishing types based on the person that starts the cycle, and then my letter pairs all use a shared set of images. So if I had + centers that went C G H K M, I'd memorize Cher meeting a GHost wearing a KiMono. But if I had wings that went C G H K M, I'd memorize Casper being a GHost and wearing a KiMono. The person clues me into which type of piece I'm solving. If a cycle spreads to multiple locations, I reuse the person from the start of the cycle at the next location, so it covers everything.
I particularly like your idea of distinguishing the types by which vowels you use - that's nice.
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@Mike
I have been considering a letter pair system. I actually started making one once, but I only got past the A's and most of the B's. I think that I might try it again. Thanks for your input!
I have been considering a letter pair system. I actually started making one once, but I only got past the A's and most of the B's. I think that I might try it again. Thanks for your input!
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ughhh trying to do 1!!
alexc
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Hello again everyone,
Updating you on my progress over the last week or so. I tried 2 multi bld attempts. The first took about 20 minutes. The result was 1/2, the second cube was off by 3 edges. The second attempt was 0/2.
Oh well, I will try again as soon as I finish my letter pair system. I am currently finishing the G's and starting the H's. I want to finish my system within the next week or two. I also am planning to switch to either Pochmann or R2 as well.
Updating you on my progress over the last week or so. I tried 2 multi bld attempts. The first took about 20 minutes. The result was 1/2, the second cube was off by 3 edges. The second attempt was 0/2.
Oh well, I will try again as soon as I finish my letter pair system. I am currently finishing the G's and starting the H's. I want to finish my system within the next week or two. I also am planning to switch to either Pochmann or R2 as well.alexc
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Update: Tried another multi for the weekly contest. Result was 1/2 
The first cube was off by 4 misoriented edges, so it was close. I used visual for CO and CP. (I am going to start using R2 very soon for multi) I used letter pair images in a story for the edges. I am happy that memo was much faster than my first two attempts. My first two attempts memo took about 15 minutes with single letter images. My third attempt memo was about 7:30, (and I went slow so I wouldn't mess up ) so a big improvement there. I think letter pairs are the reason I have improved. I will try again soon, and I will get it.
The first cube was off by 4 misoriented edges, so it was close. I used visual for CO and CP. (I am going to start using R2 very soon for multi) I used letter pair images in a story for the edges. I am happy that memo was much faster than my first two attempts. My first two attempts memo took about 15 minutes with single letter images. My third attempt memo was about 7:30, (and I went slow so I wouldn't mess up ) so a big improvement there. I think letter pairs are the reason I have improved. I will try again soon, and I will get it. 
