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[Selkie]

Yes!!! First success at OP/M2. 6:33.xx memo and 4:00.xx execution. With parity (7 corner targets, 1 cycle and 13 edge targets, 3 cycles).

Scramble: F D' L2 D' R D F D F2 R2 U2 B U2 F U2 B D2 F2 D2 R

Memo: Corners: KM OL FQ H, Edges: MH FV AW AD GN JI E

I'm so happy! Now I only have to shave off 5 minutes in memo and 3 in execution

Fantastic, awesome work :tu

@Jason

Congratulations on your results and indeed nice avatar pic :tu


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Megaminx 4:59.73, 5:09.99, 4:56.50, 5:09.58, 4:52.60 = 5:01.96

In weekly comp with new stickerless Dayan which is beginning to break in nicely.

Be really interested is hearing how others do up to LL. I do:-

Star (Cross)
First 5 x F2L
Create 5 x 3 blocks to leave
Last 5 x F2L

But this does seem very un-optimised to me and if I am going to change method, now is the time to do it.

 

[mafergut]

Megaminx 4:59.73, 5:09.99, 4:56.50, 5:09.58, 4:52.60 = 5:01.96
In weekly comp with new stickerless Dayan which is beginning to break in nicely.

Be really interested is hearing how others do up to LL. I do:-

Star (Cross)
First 5 x F2L
Create 5 x 3 blocks to leave
Last 5 x F2L

But this does seem very un-optimised to me and if I am going to change method, now is the time to do it.

Nice times. You're getting up to speed fast

What I do, including color sequence I always follow:

- white star
- F2L, in no specific order, just as I see the pieces
- Red face, meaning the two missing edges (red-light yellow and red-pink) and the 3 "S2L" pairs that go with red "on bottom" (green-light yellow, light yellow-pink and pink-blue).
- Blue face (blue-light green edge and pink-light green, light green yellow S2L pairs).
- Yellow face (orange-yellow edge and light green-orange, orange-purple S2L pairs).
- For the final face (light blue) I put the green-light blue edge, do an F' and insert the purple-light blue pair, then do an F and insert the last 2 pairs (light yellow-light blue and light blue-orange.
- Then LL

And, by the way... 8:38.xx OP/M2 success (5:26.xx memo and 3:11.xx execution).

 

[Lid]

Lets see Selkie ...
First white-star, (I use the Mefferts colour scheme)
Then F2L in any order
Then the two red edges + the 3 pairs, any order
Then the teal edge + the 2 pairs, any order
Then the green edge + the 2 pairs, any order

Last two faces: (LL=yellow, other face=brown)
I build the brown block basicly in any order, first an edge then pair, pair pair
Then on to LL ... (EO/CO/EP/CP)

(PBs 1:37.61 single, 1:50.89 a12)

 

[Selkie]

What I do, including color sequence I always follow:

- white star
- F2L, in no specific order, just as I see the pieces
- Red face, meaning the two missing edges (red-light yellow and red-pink) and the 3 "S2L" pairs that go with red "on bottom" (green-light yellow, light yellow-pink and pink-blue).
- Blue face (blue-light green edge and pink-light green, light green yellow S2L pairs).
- Yellow face (orange-yellow edge and light green-orange, orange-purple S2L pairs).
- For the final face (light blue) I put the green-light blue edge, do an F' and insert the purple-light blue pair, then do an F and insert the last 2 pairs (light yellow-light blue and light blue-orange.
- Then LL

First white-star, (I use the Mefferts colour scheme)
Then F2L in any order
Then the two red edges + the 3 pairs, any order
Then the teal edge + the 2 pairs, any order
Then the green edge + the 2 pairs, any order

Last two faces: (LL=yellow, other face=brown)
I build the brown block basicly in any order, first an edge then pair, pair pair
Then on to LL ... (EO/CO/EP/CP)

(PBs 1:37.61 single, 1:50.89 a12)

Thanks guys. An hour or so of untimed solves getting used to this way and just got a 4:18.04 Ao5 with a 3:45.22 Single.

Am wishing I had bought the ridged version though so might add that to my next order. Also loosened my stickerless Dayan as it was feeling quite good but had two screw pops! o suddenly mid solve a centre cap comes flying off with its screw washer, spring etc but the puzzle still holds together until the end of the alg I am on. Tightened it back up but have to confess the hardware doesnt seem the greatest quality, might just be me.

 

[Selkie]

My crusade to replace all cubes with stickerless will be complete with this order just placed...

Moyu YuHu (Megaminx) // This is just to try as my DaYan stickerless is currently my main.
Moyu Aofu GT (7x7)
Moyu Aoshi (6x6)
Yuxin Qilin(3x3)
Yuxin (5X5)

Unboxing on arrival gents ...

 

[mafergut]

@Chris: Already chasing David and I, huh? Don't tell me I will have to put down M2 to start practising Mega again Bad news what you say about your Dayan Mega, I hope it's not a defective core or something like that, unless you really loosened it up A LOT.

Waiting for that unboxing. Gonna have to call you the stickerless guy

 

[Isaac Lai]

@Selkie your original method is used by Balint Bodor and isn't too bad. However, what Lid, Mafergut, and most others (including me) use is Simon Westlund's order.

 

[Selkie]

I prefer the method of Mafergut and others. It is encouraging me to block build rather than use 3x3 algs which aren't really optimised for Mega. Really enjoying solving it at the moment.

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6x6 PB Single right out of nowhere 3:43.77, last PB was 3:58.xx!!

 

[h2f]

First attempt of 6bld - after 20 minutes I could memo only both wings and obliques but I've made few mistakes with them. I gave up. I've learnt that I need more sighted memo.

 

[kbrune]

@mafergut

I reached for my pyraminx and I can't find it either. Which reminded me that I took my 2x2, Pyra and a 3x3 with me in my wife's car. And they're still there. Missing 2x2 mystery solved! 2x2 and Pyra race will have to wait till tomorrow.

@selkie
Nice 6x6 time! I know you're faster then me in general. But where were your 7x7 and 6x6 times when you first solved them. I'm trying to guestimate where I may find myself once I get used to them.

 

[mafergut]

@mafergut

I reached for my pyraminx and I can't find it either. Which reminded me that I took my 2x2, Pyra and a 3x3 with me in my wife's car. And they're still there. Missing 2x2 mystery solved! 2x2 and Pyra race will have to wait till tomorrow.

@selkie
Nice 6x6 time! I know you're faster then me in general. But where were your 7x7 and 6x6 times when you first solved them. I'm trying to guestimate where I may find myself once I get used to them.

Nice! You seem to be involved in all sorts of races. I just joined a couple more this week (2x2 and 4x4) and you are there as well and, also in a pyra race? Between the weekly competition and all the races I'm in, I'm starting to not have time for casual / untimed solving and for learning new things so maybe I will have to reconsider my practise schedule.

 

[muchacho]

I've been away a couple of days, so congrats to Jason for that sub-15 and competition results, great solves... and Miguel for your M2 successes.

Chris, nice Mega averages.


I was able to do like 6 hours of untimed 2x2/3x3 solves for each of the past 3 days, I'll have to wait until tomorrow to see if that practice worked, right now there is too much smoke coming out of my head to see anything.

 

[kbrune]

Nice! You seem to be involved in all sorts of races. I just joined a couple more this week (2x2 and 4x4) and you are there as well and, also in a pyra race? Between the weekly competition and all the races I'm in, I'm starting to not have time for casual / untimed solving and for learning new things so maybe I will have to reconsider my practise schedule.

Yeah I'm lucky in the sense that I have a lot of free time at work. I get most of the WC events done in 2 work days. Sometimes 3 or 4 depending how busy I get. I get interrupted alot but it works. So the extra race threads don't really take up alot of my home time. I don't do near enough untimed practice which I'm sure is the reason my progress is stunted in 3x3.

 

[mafergut]

@Ken: yeah, I should do more untimed solves.

By the way, 1st sub 1:30 4x4 single and PB Ao12 1:46.xx. The single was 1:27.xx but it could have been like 1:20 because I got an Na perm and hesitated when starting to do my current 3x3 RUD PLL alg so I undid 3 moves and did my old lefty alg, which flows much more nicely on big cubes. Lost a ton of time

 

[Jason Green]

Hey all, the elementary cube club is a go and we will be starting April 25th! I'd like your advice. For 2x2, is the easiest method for a new (young) cuber layer by layer? What about 3x3, do you think beginner's method is worth teaching over CFOP? F2L just always seemed as easy as learning to put in corners and then edges for the bottom two layers.

What other twisty puzzles would a youngster like (we may have kids aged 6 - 11 in here)? Pyraminx? I'm going to order several cubes to give to the school, maybe 6 QiYi Sails, 6 cheap 2x2s, and some Pyraminx? Anything else (Skewb??)?

All advice is appreciated!

 

[muchacho]

I guess they should like Skewb and it's probably the easiest to learn/teach.

Maybe stickerless cubes so they can't damage the stickers?

 

[mark49152]

Hey I wonder what happened to Sneaklyfox, Kattenvrienden, and Pipkiksass?

 

[Jason Green]

I guess they should like Skewb and probably is the easiest to learn/teach.

Maybe stickerless cubes so they can't damage the stickers?

Guess it's time to learn skewb then.

 

[kbrune]

I'm considering starting a club in my city as well. I'll be following that topic for sure.

I was thinking of teaching cfop with f2l pairing instead of corner first then edge. But depending on age and skill level. They may be overwhelmed with f2l pairing. So I figured I would outline a few methods like roux, beginner LBL cfop and maybe another including the pros and cons. Then let people decide what they want to learn and and at what pace.

Those were just thoughts bouncing around in my mind though.

As for 2x2. I'd say LBL is a good way to start since it's parallel to cfop learning. Ortega is a good option too though. Easy to build one colour during inspection. Not very many algs.

 

[moralsh]

First attempt of 6bld - after 20 minutes I could memo only both wings and obliques but I've made few mistakes with them. I gave up. I've learnt that I need more sighted memo.

I'm attempting the different kind of pieces separately, memo inner centers, solve inner centers, memo outer, solve outer, memo obliques and so on, it's easier to do it while watching tv or doing other stuff. I haven't yet tried the whole thing because the obliques still bug me although I'm getting better, maybe next weekend.

On 4 and 5 BLD memo is definitely getting better (4 and 11 minutes my last attempts) but execution still sucks (9:04 and 24:11), although that last one has had two huge lockups on centers that I don't know how I fixed and some recall problems. Execution is around 10-12 minutes normally which, as I said earlier, is dead slow. Will get better I hope.

I tried also a 2-5BLD relay on saturday and failed an unseen twisted corner on the 2x2 and the wings parity fix on the 5x5. I really need to stop messing stupid things xD