Stachu Korick's New Method :)

StachuK1992 · Apr 22, 2009

Hello fellow speedsolvers,

Over the past month, I have been playing around with both ZZ and Roux, and have been enjoying them both very much, as a sort of break from "plain old Fridrich."

While toying around, (no pun intended) an idea came to me. Since, in Roux, there is time spent dealing with two [1x2x3] blocks, and have to deal later with edge orientation, would ZZ not help here?

Here is what I propose, and after a few tests, find very successful:

-EO-Just like in ZZ's "EOline," just without the line
-One [1x2x3] block on the left side, using U, L, R, and sometimes (MU2M') or (M'U2M)
-A [1x2x2] block on the right, setting up a WV(Winter Variation/F2LL) case.
-Corner Permutation + Edge Permutation (2 or possible 1 step(s), although I am currently using 2)

If you are new to either or both of the base methods, I will now provide various resouces:

ZZ:
-SpeedSolving Thread
-"Official" ZZ guide
Esperantanaso's YouTube ZZ Tutorial
Winter Variation Page #1
Winter Variation Page #2
Winter Variation Page #3

Roux:
Original Website
Waffles' YouTube Tutorial
jus102u's YouTube Tutorial (...meh)

It took me quite a while to find all of these links, and I definitely think that this method has potential, so I'd appreciate some response.

Thanks a lot,
StachuK1992

Gparker · Apr 22, 2009

seems very... interesting. ill consider learning some ZZ since ive done roux solves. but this looks like it has potential. but wouldent the EO change as your doing 1x2x3s? im a noob when it comes to this but wouldent it be harder to look ahead for EO?

byu · Apr 22, 2009

It sounds pretty simple, and I don't think you can do M U moves, because it messes stuff up. (EO)

StachuK1992 · Apr 22, 2009

byu said:
It sounds pretty simple, and I don't think you can do M U moves, because it messes stuff up. (EO)

You can do M2 Moves...or something like "M U2 M"...you just gotta watch what you're doing

BTW...considering that I just got 2 sub-30 solves with this, and I can't get sub-30 with either of the base methods, I'm kinda liking this

After 10 solves, I got a 25.42 solve...My Fridrich average is 23 seconds...NICE!

byu · Apr 22, 2009

M U2 M' is OK, but not M U M'

I'm going to do a solve with this right now.

StachuK1992 · Apr 22, 2009

sweet...I assume you know some Roux?

Actually, this doesn't really have too much Roux in it...besides the 1x2x3 Blocks and the 6Edge Permutation.

waffle=ijm · Apr 22, 2009

the korick method

StachuK1992 · Apr 22, 2009

waffle=ijm said:
the korick method

haha...IDK what or if I'd call it...
hmmm

byu · Apr 22, 2009

Korick method first solve

36.12

Pretty good! I don't know WV so I did a F2Lslot+Corners OLL

StachuK1992 · Apr 22, 2009

meh...I don't like "Korick Method"
Still, it feels A LOT like a ZZ solve, until you see the majestic 1x2x3's

waffle=ijm · Apr 22, 2009

Stachuk1992 said:
waffle=ijm said:

the korick method

Click to expand...

haha...IDK what or if I'd call it...
hmmm

looks like the Korick method

bleh 58.14. I'm not that good with that EOline idea of ZZ
definite potential CLS to orient corners

StachuK1992 · Apr 22, 2009

Well...Waffles, once gotten the EO, what (time) do you get from there?

waffle=ijm · Apr 22, 2009

Stachuk1992 said:
Well...Waffles, once gotten the EO, what (time) do you get from there?

like 34 seconds, I've only seen 1 EO tutorial for ZZ and I've been trying to remember what to do... so lots and lots and lots of hesitation. As a strict roux solver, I really don't practice other methods so much

StachuK1992 · Apr 22, 2009

No. I mean like, once your done EO, start the timer.
Then, from there, what do you get for the rest of the cube.
I'll just add a "standard EO time" to your time from there.

byu · Apr 22, 2009

Korick Method Avg. 5

1. 36.12
2. (34.29)
3. 35.17
4. (37.28)
5. 36.88
AVERAGE 3/5 = 36.05

This is a good method. I see high potential for the Korick method. Stachu, I've made a variation of this method that I think is quite a bit faster, if you'd like, I'll do a write up and post it here. If you don't want that to happen, tell me.

StachuK1992 · Apr 22, 2009

I'd be VERY open to suggestions.
Give it a shot.

miniGOINGS · Apr 22, 2009

byu said:
This is a good method. I see high potential for the Korick method. Stachu, I've made a variation of this method that I think is quite a bit faster, if you'd like, I'll do a write up and post it here. If you don't want that to happen, tell me.

i want to see this!!! im liking roux right now but having a little problem with fixing the bad edges,, this might help a lot!

byu · Apr 22, 2009

miniGOINGS said:
byu said:

This is a good method. I see high potential for the Korick method. Stachu, I've made a variation of this method that I think is quite a bit faster, if you'd like, I'll do a write up and post it here. If you don't want that to happen, tell me.

Click to expand...

i want to see this!!! im liking roux right now but having a little problem with fixing the bad edges,, this might help a lot!

I'm writing it right now, might take a while. I'm still trying to explain EO.

miniGOINGS · Apr 22, 2009

do you have any good sites for EO that i could look at?

waffle=ijm · Apr 22, 2009

Stachuk1992 said:
No. I mean like, once your done EO, start the timer.
Then, from there, what do you get for the rest of the cube.
I'll just add a "standard EO time" to your time from there.

OOooOO ok
from 3 different solve about 27-28secs. I'm not accustomed to ZZ so I had a little trouble grasping to the first block so I didn't mess up the EO. I guess I'm a little to used to M-slice pairing.

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