Weekly competition 2009-24

What is WO? And what are these algs that you can do in less than 1 second?
What is your last layer? Is it the wide end or the narrow end? I do the narrow end as my LL.
I do
1. solve corner-edge-corner.
2. solve another corner and insert its 2 edges to make a layer.
3. finish LL with 1 alg.
I'm thinking about expanding step 2. One way is to insert the edges wrong and generate the algs that fixes the 2 edges and LL. The other is to solve LL while inserting last edge. I don't know which has shorter algs or better recognition or if it's even worth doing something so complicated. Right now I can average around 9 seconds with best average at 7.5 using my basic method.

2x2x2 (14.84) 12.88 (10.06) 13.31 10.36 = 12.18
3x3x3 (26.13) 23.91 20.94 24.08 (20.33) = 22.98
4x4x4 1:37.22 1:34.09 (1:23.43) 1:27.96 (1:46.50) = 1:33.09
7x7x7 7:01.27 (7:40.75) 7:04.94 7:14.25 (6:34.40) = 7:06.82 2 or more pops per solve...

will get to the other cubes later if i have time

Notice that all of these are in the order the scrambles are given

2x2: 4.43, 3.97, 3.30, 3.02, 3.68 = 3.65
uhh 3 forced OLL skips I think. Pretty easy solves.
3x3: 9.88, 11.97, 13.21, 12.83, 12.90 = 12.57
9.88 was PLL skip. These were just fantastic solves.
4x4: 59.41 OP, 59.75 P, 56.40 P, 1:02.08, 57.63 = 58.93
Pretty good.
5x5: 1:54.02, 1:59.22, 1:57.81, 2:04.34, 2:01.44 = 1:59.49
Practiced a bit.
6x6: 4:31.03, 4:31.66, 4:49.93, 4:27.00, 4:34.41 = 4:32.37
It's nice having a 6x6 again.
2x2BLD: DNF, 21.81, 30.52+ = 21.81
Still SpeedBLDing..
3x3BLD: DNF (3:10.75), 3:33.09, 2:43.08 = 2:43.08
I was surprised by this, given how little I have practiced lately.
4x4BLD: DNF, DNS, DNS = DNF
Let's just say, it was not worth it to count the number of pieces I had solved at the end.
3x3MBF: 2/2 (17:43.39) = 2 points
FINALLY
3x3OH: 29.86, 27.78, 32.38, 28.68, 40.84 = 30.31
MiniDS ftw.
3x3WF: 2:10.55, 2:02.40, 1:50.47, 2:00.43, 1:44.22 = 1:57.77
Sub-2
3x3MTS: 1:16.03, 1:22.96, 1:19.38, 1:17.38, 1:04.09 = 1:17.60
Not bad.
3x3FMC: DNF
After about 45 minutes of searching and no good starts, I just gave up.
2-4: 1:24.88 OP
Darn OP.
2-5: 3:26.88
Good.
Magic: 1.58 1.52 1.52 1.53 1.46 = 1.52
I should have waited a few solves to start counting them for the contest, the next three were 1.42, 1.43, 1.40
MMagic: 4.00, 4.03, 4.02, 3.93, 3.91 = 3.98
Really consistent.
clock: 8.50, 7.68, 7.93, 7.97, 8.33 = 8.08
Meh.
minx: 2:28.77, 2:22.69, 2:30.44, 2:10.25, 2:16.30 = 2:22.59
Average.
pyra: 10.00, 8.58, 8.94, 13.27, 9.36 = 9.43
D: at the tips this week. Really threw me.
sq1: 19.03, 15.91, 29.35, 21.22, 20.69 = 20.29
Pretty good, since I think there were 3 parities.

2x2x2: 8.53 8.30 7.43 9.19 6.91
3x3x3: 44.97 25.40 34.41 31.33 34.90
4x4x4: 1:35.40 1:51.66 1:38.66 1:39.68 1:49.56
5x5x5: 2:18.86 2:28.72 2:15.56 2:35.68 2:46.22
6x6x6: 4:00.83 4:15.61 4:05.38 4:40.28 4:36.61
7x7x7: 6:54.90 7:11.80 7:17.11 7:45.02 7:06.13
222bf: DNF 1:09.68 DNF
333bf: DNF 8:46.66 4:31.05
3330h: 40.50 37.27 41.55 1:37.56 DNF
333mts: 57.94 1:04.52 1:05.46 1:08.90 1:02.31
234: 2:13.84
2345: 4:53.78
magic: 1.93 2.50 6.68 DNF 3.58
mmagic: 4.66 5.71 5.77 4.66 4.15
clock: 16.96 13.27 21.78 DNF 14.80
mminx: 3:27.93 3:12.96 3:43.03 2:51.90 3:19.78
pminx: 7.83 15.91 17.63 9.16 11.81
sq1: 1:00.75 1:13.91 1:20.91 59.77 1:02.43

I used regular F2L on all solves and had many G-Perms that I did really slowly or even messed up. G-Perms + Parity on 4x4x4 are horrible

Did you also use regular F2L on MTS?

Heh, just noticed that you got sub-minute on the same scramble as mine. I didn't really think it was lucky or easy though.

fanwuq said:

What is WO? And what are these algs that you can do in less than 1 second?
What is your last layer? Is it the wide end or the narrow end? I do the narrow end as my LL.
I do
1. solve corner-edge-corner.
2. solve another corner and insert its 2 edges to make a layer.
3. finish LL with 1 alg.
I'm thinking about expanding step 2. One way is to insert the edges wrong and generate the algs that fixes the 2 edges and LL. The other is to solve LL while inserting last edge. I don't know which has shorter algs or better recognition or if it's even worth doing something so complicated. Right now I can average around 9 seconds with best average at 7.5 using my basic method.

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Well... you can expand to do a V instead of I as first step, then you can choose if you want 2 flip or "sune" as LL-case (sometmes skip ^^) when inserting the last edge, then you don't need to know the "sune"+2flip alg

Well, WO is just a homemade method where you only think about to make the top... and then do LL with something similiar to OLL and PLL on 3x3x3... (you can't learn CLL ... there are too many ^^) combining this with some other methods, you provoke OELL skips... well the last algs are just 2flip, 3cycle+/- orientation... I start with the narrow end well, it's hard explain my method as I remember situations and not algs :/

2x2x2 : 9.81, (10.97), 9.55, 7.34, (5.36) = 8.90

3x3x3 : 30.63, (23.25), 26.25, (33.52), 27.80 = 28.23

4x4x4 : 2:19.52, (2:10.75), 2:11.94, (2:31.05), 2:30.25 = 2:20.57

2x2x2 BLD : DNF, DNF, DNF= DNF
went too fast

3x3x3 BLD : DNF, 4:11.78, DNF = 4:11.78


I also did 5x5 and sq-1 but lost the results.

trying-to-speedcube... said:

Did you also use regular F2L on MTS?

Heh, just noticed that you got sub-minute on the same scramble as mine. I didn't really think it was lucky or easy though.

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Nope, I use a mixture between beginners F2L and random stuff for the last layer (very much depending on the case I get). There were a couple of easy crosses on these scrambles and I was extra motivated to do well on MTS to compensate for all the bad regular cubes.
On the first cube I found a way to do cross + 2 corners during inspection

Oh, I just revised my solution, I use LBL for MTS btw. It seems that I accidentally solved 2 edges during corners of last layer. I don't know if I should call that lucky though...

Results week 24

This week we got an all time high result for the winner!

Partly David had excellent results, partly this depends on the great number
of participants and that so many people compete in many events.
(The number of total points increase approximately quadratically with the
number of starts in each event).
2x2x2(33)

1. 3.65 Vault312
2. 4.03 Escher
3. 4.12 fazrulz
4. 4.20 Edmund
5. 4.86 MTGjumper
6. 5.00 Jai
7. 5.11 trying-to-speedcube...
8. 5.16 SimonWestlund
9. 5.22 waffle = ijm
10. 5.42 Yalow
11. 5.47 MistArts
12. 5.82 Mossar
13. 6.10 elimescube
14. 6.28 Odder
15. 6.72 rickcube
16. 6.79 Thompson
17. 6.80 Yes, We Can!
18. 6.84 Ryanrex116
19. 7.01 rwcinoto
20. 7.30 Kian
21. 7.41 alifiantoadinugroho
22. 8.01 vvtopkar
23. 8.09 AvGalen
24. 8.70 Mike Hughey
25. 8.90 cookingfat
26. 10.15 PeterV
27. 12.16 imaghost
28. 12.18 John Lee
29. 14.10 Kev43
30. 14.59 Edam
31. 16.51 Lumej
32. 17.00 MatsBergsten
33. 22.33 msemtd

3x3x3 (42)

1. 11.89 fazrulz
2. 12.27 Jai
3. 12.57 Vault312
4. 12.87 MTGjumper
5. 13.08 Escher
6. 13.49 Sa967St
7. 14.76 pjk
8. 15.27 SimonWestlund
9. 15.94 rickcube
10. 16.23 Thompson
11. 16.40 Tortin
12. 16.42 waffle = ijm
13. 16.59 cmhardw
14. 17.45 elimescube
15. 17.70 trying-to-speedcube...
16. 17.74 fanwuq
17. 17.89 Edmund
18. 18.13 Kian
19. 18.84 JoseRubik
20. 19.43 Max Neitzel
21. 19.59 marineasalia
22. 19.75 Mossar
23. 20.49 gavnasty
24. 20.99 Odder
25. 21.04 rwcinoto
26. 22.51 Edam
27. 22.98 John Lee
28. 24.27 alifiantoadinugroho
29. 24.94 Feanaro
30. 26.66 Mike Hughey
31. 27.52 PM 1729
32. 28.23 cookingfat
33. 28.45 vvtopkar
34. 33.55 AvGalen
35. 33.78 PeterV
36. 34.10 Lumej
37. 36.93 imaghost
38. 40.55 Kev43
39. 41.90 msemtd
40. 54.40 MatsBergsten
41. DNF Yalow
42. DNF byu

4x4x4(25)

1. 56.77 fazrulz
2. 58.93 Vault312
3. 1:00.84 SimonWestlund
4. 1:05.28 MTGjumper
5. 1:06.60 pjk
6. 1:09.99 Sa967St
7. 1:12.85 Kian
8. 1:14.53 Thompson
9. 1:15.85 waffle = ijm
10. 1:19.70 trying-to-speedcube...
11. 1:21.44 elimescube
12. 1:33.05 rickcube
13. 1:33.09 John Lee
14. 1:39.07 Mike Hughey
15. 1:39.78 fanwuq
16. 1:42.63 AvGalen
17. 1:45.34 Mossar
18. 2:02.57 rwcinoto
19. 2:14.17 alifiantoadinugroho
20. 2:20.57 cookingfat
21. 2:23.59 Edam
22. 2:31.94 Lumej
23. 3:16.80 Kev43
24. 3:36.94 MatsBergsten
25. 3:45.12 msemtd

5x5x5(20)

1. 1:40.95 fazrulz
2. 1:49.23 elimescube
3. 1:53.32 trying-to-speedcube...
4. 1:59.49 Vault312
5. 2:02.84 SimonWestlund
6. 2:04.15 Sa967St
7. 2:04.60 MTGjumper
8. 2:05.71 pjk
9. 2:06.22 Kian
10. 2:27.75 AvGalen
11. 2:31.05 Mike Hughey
12. 2:34.58 waffle = ijm
13. 3:02.49 Tortin
14. 3:20.08 rickcube
15. 3:22.15 Edam
16. 3:35.03 Yes, We Can!
17. 4:36.16 Lumej
18. 6:43.48 msemtd
19. 9:36.82 MatsBergsten
20. DNF cookingfat

6x6x6(8)

1. 4:04.62 elimescube
2. 4:19.20 AvGalen
3. 4:30.85 trying-to-speedcube...
4. 4:32.37 Vault312
5. 4:40.50 SimonWestlund
6. 5:31.88 Mike Hughey
7. 8:26.68 Kian
8. 11:59.60 msemtd

7x7x7(10)

1. 5:59.67 trying-to-speedcube...
2. 6:09.07 elimescube
3. 7:06.82 John Lee
4. 7:11.68 AvGalen
5. 8:10.26 Mike Hughey
6. 8:27.73 fazrulz
7. 9:07.07 SimonWestlund
8. 14:45.27 Kian
9. 15:13.49 msemtd
10. DNF Lumej

3x3 one handed(18)

1. 21.63 Jai
2. 28.46 elimescube
3. 28.65 fazrulz
4. 29.71 trying-to-speedcube...
5. 29.95 Mossar
6. 30.31 Vault312
7. 31.92 fanwuq
8. 32.24 pjk
9. 33.03 Sa967St
10. 34.83 Edmund
11. 36.09 gavnasty
12. 38.91 Tortin
13. 51.55 alifiantoadinugroho
14. 53.17 Kian
15. 55.50 Mike Hughey
16. 59.35 Feanaro
17. 59.87 AvGalen
18. 2:07.77 msemtd

3x3 with feet(4)

1. 55.66 rwcinoto
2. 1:57.77 Vault312
3. 2:07.47 Mike Hughey
4. 4:35.79 Kian

2x2x2 Blindfolded(15)

1. 8.41 fazrulz
2. 14.56 Mossar
3. 21.81 Vault312
4. 22.52 Odder
5. 25.67 fanwuq
6. 27.55 SimonWestlund
7. 29.71 Mike Hughey
8. 29.91 Edmund
9. 33.94 trying-to-speedcube...
10. 48.20 Kian
11. 54.67 alifiantoadinugroho
12. 56.19 MatsBergsten
13. 1:09.68 AvGalen
14. 2:26.46 Thompson
15. DNF cookingfat

3x3x3 Blindfolded(14)

1. 1:54.50 cmhardw
2. 2:26.68 Mike Hughey
3. 2:36.18 trying-to-speedcube...
4. 2:43.08 Vault312
5. 2:45.60 MatsBergsten
6. 2:59.25 SimonWestlund
7. 3:07.51 fanwuq
8. 3:26.87 PM 1729
9. 3:58.55 elimescube
10. 4:11.78 cookingfat
11. 4:31.05 AvGalen
12. 4:44.66 Kian
13. DNF alifiantoadinugroho
14. DNF Sa967St

4x4x4 Blindfolded(5)

1. 5:27.57 cmhardw
2. 9:13.50 Mike Hughey
3. 22:34.62 trying-to-speedcube...
4. DNF Vault312
5. DNF MatsBergsten

5x5x5 Blindfolded(3)

1. 12:47.71 cmhardw
2. 15:59.23 Mike Hughey
3. DNF MatsBergsten

3x3 Multi blind(8)

1. 4/4 elimescube
2. 4/5 MatsBergsten
3. 2/2 Kian
4. 2/2 Vault312
5. 4/6 Mike Hughey
6. 2/3 trying-to-speedcube...
7. 1/2 fanwuq
8. 1/3 alifiantoadinugroho

3x3 Match the scramble(9)

1. 1:04.10 AvGalen
2. 1:04.17 trying-to-speedcube...
3. 1:17.60 Vault312
4. 1:34.12 gavnasty
5. 1:40.91 Mike Hughey
6. 1:50.16 Kian
7. 2:05.67 alifiantoadinugroho
8. 4:20.24 msemtd
9. DNF MatsBergsten

2-3-4 Relay(19)

1. 1:09.59 fazrulz
2. 1:24.88 Vault312
3. 1:25.97 SimonWestlund
4. 1:27.77 MTGjumper
5. 1:29.86 Sa967St
6. 1:33.21 Thompson
7. 1:33.72 trying-to-speedcube...
8. 1:53.89 Kian
9. 2:03.94 rickcube
10. 2:13.84 AvGalen
11. 2:20.18 Mossar
12. 2:22.83 fanwuq
13. 2:29.19 Odder
14. 2:36.34 Mike Hughey
15. 3:14.25 alifiantoadinugroho
16. 4:19.31 Kev43
17. 5:06.19 Lumej
18. 5:17.69 msemtd
19. 6:26.00 MatsBergsten

2-3-4-5 Relay(12)

1. 3:03.63 fazrulz
2. 3:26.88 Vault312
3. 3:26.97 elimescube
4. 3:35.22 Sa967St
5. 3:45.96 SimonWestlund
6. 3:46.00 trying-to-speedcube...
7. 4:15.45 Kian
8. 4:53.78 AvGalen
9. 5:25.53 Mike Hughey
10. 8:52.88 Lumej
11. 12:38.10 msemtd
12. 14:17.81 MatsBergsten

Magic(9)

1. 0.93 waffle = ijm
2. 1.29 fanwuq
3. 1.31 Edam
4. 1.36 PeterV
5. 1.52 Vault312
6. 1.65 trying-to-speedcube...
7. 2.09 Mike Hughey
8. 3.46 Kian
9. 4.25 AvGalen

Master Magic(4)

1. 3.98 Vault312
2. 4.11 waffle = ijm
3. 4.65 Mike Hughey
4. 5.01 AvGalen

Clock(6)

1. 8.08 Vault312
2. 17.85 AvGalen
3. 22.01 Mike Hughey
4. 27.00 pjk
5. 27.84 rwcinoto
6. 40.01 Lumej

Pyraminx(13)

1. 6.66 Odder
2. 7.05 SimonWestlund
3. 7.65 ConnorCuber
4. 8.33 fanwuq
5. 8.37 Jai
6. 9.43 Vault312
7. 10.96 trying-to-speedcube...
8. 12.29 AvGalen
9. 12.56 rickcube
10. 17.02 waffle = ijm
11. 17.52 Yes, We Can!
12. 20.65 Mike Hughey
13. 26.66 msemtd

Megaminx(9)

1. 1:33.08 fazrulz
2. 1:35.28 trying-to-speedcube...
3. 2:15.96 elimescube
4. 2:21.52 Sa967St
5. 2:22.59 Vault312
6. 3:16.77 Mike Hughey
7. 3:20.22 AvGalen
8. 5:09.44 fanwuq
9. 6:17.72 msemtd

Square-1(13)

1. 20.31 Vault312
2. 22.06 MTGjumper
3. 32.36 elimescube
4. 37.25 SimonWestlund
5. 40.71 trying-to-speedcube...
6. 46.25 Sa967St
7. 51.91 pjk
8. 54.74 rwcinoto
9. 58.02 Mike Hughey
10. 1:05.70 AvGalen
11. 1:10.34 Kian
12. 1:51.03 fanwuq
13. DNF cookingfat

3x3x3 fewest moves(10)

1. 29 guusrs
2. 34 trying-to-speedcube...
3. 35 stray
4. 35 fanwuq
5. 35 MistArts
6. 38 deepSubDiver
7. 40 Mike Hughey
8. 46 cuBerBruce
9. 49 elimescube
10. DNF Vault312

Contest results

1. 326 Vault312
2. 291 trying-to-speedcube...
3. 231 fazrulz
4. 230 Mike Hughey
5. 230 elimescube
6. 220 SimonWestlund
7. 187 Kian
8. 170 AvGalen
9. 155 Sa967St
10. 154 fanwuq
11. 152 MTGjumper
12. 116 waffle = ijm
13. 113 pjk
14. 108 rickcube
15. 107 Jai
16. 107 Mossar
17. 99 Thompson
18. 91 MatsBergsten
19. 85 Edmund
20. 84 alifiantoadinugroho
21. 83 Odder
22. 76 cmhardw
23. 75 Escher
24. 72 rwcinoto
25. 67 msemtd
26. 60 cookingfat
27. 59 Tortin
28. 59 John Lee
29. 54 Edam
30. 54 Lumej
31. 45 gavnasty
32. 43 MistArts
33. 34 Yes, We Can!
34. 30 Yalow
35. 28 Kev43
36. 28 PeterV
37. 27 vvtopkar
38. 27 PM 1729
39. 27 JoseRubik
40. 26 Max Neitzel
41. 25 marineasalia
42. 24 Feanaro
43. 20 guusrs
44. 18 Ryanrex116
45. 18 stray
46. 18 imaghost
47. 15 deepSubDiver
48. 13 ConnorCuber
49. 13 cuBerBruce
50. 4 byu

Congrats David
How did I come 3rd?

fazrulz said:

Congrats David
How did I come 3rd?

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You mean you did not compete in that many events?
You are so fast that you get around 40 points in 2x2 & 3x3 etc.

With this many competitors the bonus points for "hard" events like
FMC and 5x5BLD do not count as much.

Thank you for the results Mats.

I see that your 2x2x2 is beating mine at the moment! (I really must practice more)

I'd like to swap your 4x4x4 speed for my 5x5x5 - I think that'd be fair

@David - It looks like I have to improve my master magic


0.93 MAGIC I just realized that's a PB for me

0.93 MAGIC I just realized that's a PB for me[/quote]
Now that's just ridiculous!

btw, check facebook; hah.

msemtd said:

I see that your 2x2x2 is beating mine at the moment! (I really must practice more)

I'd like to swap your 4x4x4 speed for my 5x5x5 - I think that'd be fair

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Seems I am better at even cubes , ...but you beat me at 3x3, 5x5 and both relays.
So you win, but I am improving. Don't be to sure at 3x3, I did 47+ this week! PB with 4 secs!

MatsBergsten said:

Seems I am better at even cubes , ...but you beat me at 3x3, 5x5 and both relays.
So you win, but I am improving. Don't be to sure at 3x3, I did 47+ this week! PB with 4 secs!

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Yes, my mind doesn't work well with parity conditions and movable centres! I fear your 3x3x3 improvements I got quite lucky in the comp with below average times.

Heh... I expected to win MTS, better luck this week

You missed my 1.29 for magic.
I'm surprised that it is so competitive this week! I had my all time high of 145 not including magic and it's still not top 10. I did every event that I could except match the scramble. I'm surprised at my poor ranking in pyraminx and 2x2 BLD; I thought I had a good week too. This week, I didn't warm up for OH, missed a perfect opportunity to be #2.

fanwuq said:

You missed my 1.29 for magic.
I'm surprised that it is so competitive this week! I had my all time high of 145 not including magic and it's still not top 10.

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Sorry! It is because the program did not accept "Magic" because of the "Rubick's" before "Magic". I'll see if I can fix that. I have corrected your result. Now you are # 10