Stadler method?

[fanwuq]

I’ve been considering Stadler method of 4x4 solving.
http://speedcubing.ch/4x4 Solution/Stadler Methode 4x4.htm
It’s very easy to learn. Can it be fast (faster than reduction)?

Any comparisions of move count?
I suck at both methods.
I tried once.
115 Stadler, 130 Reduction.

 

[masterofthebass]

Right now, no other method has PROVEN to be faster than reduction, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't use them, since personally another method may be faster. I've looked into Stadler a little, but before i was into roux. It could be a viable option if you prefer it over K4, but I don't see why you shouldn't learn it.

 

[joey]

Thomas Stadler is just an awesome guy!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/flowmo/1570798595/

 

[tim]

Thomas Stadler is just an awesome guy!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/flowmo/1570798595/

You're right, but stay on topic!

 

[joey]

Ok, just learn it cos he is awesome. (Is that on topic enough? )

 

[Swordsman Kirby]

Petrus or Fridrich?

 

[masterofthebass]

I've done 3 solves: 3:22, 3:08, 2:45.. It'll get better

--EDIT--
1:58 .... 1:43!

 

[brunson]

What is this second line of notation he uses?

r2 B2 U2 l U2 r' U2 r U2 F2 r F2 l' B2 r2
1-1-99773-772-771-77551-554-991-1-

 

[fanwuq]

What is this second line of notation he uses?

r2 B2 U2 l U2 r' U2 r U2 F2 r F2 l' B2 r2
1-1-99773-772-771-77551-554-991-1-

I was wondering about that too!

I mostly like the edge pairing of stadler. It is easier look ahead for me.
Also, I suck at solving the 4x4 as a 3x3. I average about 50 seconds (low 20s for actual 3x3). I always forget to speed up on the 3x3 part and treating 2 pieces as one edges messes up my look ahead (so does the purple instead of orange). Stadler is nice that you go straight into the last step after pairing. Only I need to practice inner slice turning and remember which set-up to do for the edge pair alg. Perhaps I'll get back to my reduction speed in a week. I get 2:25-3:25 for reduction, so it should be easy.

 

[tim]

What is this second line of notation he uses?

r2 B2 U2 l U2 r' U2 r U2 F2 r F2 l' B2 r2
1-1-99773-772-771-77551-554-991-1-

He uses his number codes (you can look them up somewhere on his page) to make memorizing algorithms easier.

 

[masterofthebass]

woooo hooo...

Just got a 1:28.55. That solve went well. With PLL parity too

 

[fanwuq]

wow! great improvement! sub-1 in a few days for you probably.

 

[512456]

faster than reduction

By the way, may I know what is the method 'reduction'? Any links to show the method? Thanks.

 

[thomasstadlerschweiz]

I use numbers for each move.
1=R
2=R'

3=L
4=L'
So for me its easier to learn new algorithms (Number codes). Its also better (for me) to detect inversed algorithms.
I've started cubing by using this system, so for me its a "normal" notation.
Have a look on it:

On my site:
http://www.speedcubing.ch/Notation/Notation.htm

Notation Translation sheet: http://www.speedcubing.ch/Notation/NotationTable.pdf

Notations converter:
http://sisyphus.teil.cc/~martin/about/speedcubing/notationconverter/

 

[Swordsman Kirby]

faster than reduction

By the way, may I know what is the method 'reduction'? Any links to show the method? Thanks.

Reduction is the most common big cube method: centers->edge pairing->3x3x3.

 

[fanwuq]

This is so cool! Thanks, Mr. Stadler! Did you make this notation yourself? I'm not aware of anyone else who uses this notation.
I noticed for the case where you use 4moves to set up the edge pairing, you can use B2 and do the inverse reflection I think.

 

[MistArts]

What is this second line of notation he uses?

r2 B2 U2 l U2 r' U2 r U2 F2 r F2 l' B2 r2
1-1-99773-772-771-77551-554-991-1-

He uses his number codes (you can look them up somewhere on his page) to make memorizing algorithms easier.

I thought you call that number for help on the alg...

 

[DonQuixote]

I'm not aware of anyone else who uses this notation.

Well, on my homepage I do use that notation system, too.

Kind Regards
Martin

 

[fanwuq]

I'm not aware of anyone else who uses this notation.

Well, on my homepage I do use that notation system, too.

Kind Regards
Martin

Your page is very useful for Roux method! I'll see if I should convert (learn CMLL instead of OLLs.)