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I need some help undoing the vandalism to the main page and discussion. Thanks --PJK (talk) 05:14, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

Today I've upgraded MediaWiki to 1.31. It has quite a few new features, you can see here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.31 Also looking into changing the theme a bit to something more modern. If you guys have any ideas, post them here. Also, on the homepage I see the "Template:NUMBEROFVIEWS" isn't showing correctly, please resolve that. --PJK (talk) 10:53, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

It looks like the "Template:NUMBEROFVIEWS" has been deleted from MediaWiki 3 years ago. See [1] and [2]. I suggest using "... and contibute to our 50,918 edits." with template {{NUMBEROFEDITS}}. Regards, --Martinss (talk) 21:09, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
Moreover, this version of the main page isn't showing correctly on my (wide) screen [3]. I just edited it (using the more modern version I made a while ago). Undo if you think it's necessary. Regards, --Martinss (talk) 21:09, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

Protected this page

Since the main page is the most frequently visited page on this wiki and thus, any vandalism, even if not long-lasting, can cause a lot of harm, I have decided to protect this page to prevent this scenario.

If you have suggestions for a better main page, you can perform the edits on a sub-page of your account (for example User:YourUsername/Main Page) and then, when you're done, create a new topic on this talk page to show that you would like to change the main page. You should also list what you've changed and why you think that it improves on the current main page. The main page will be replaced with your page only if an admin agrees. Adding a new section and giving reasons does not guarantee that your changes will be accepted. - RedstoneTim (talk) 13:27, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Vandalism

Several aricles has been deleted yesterday by User:Dsiuth_swaed (vandalism). Could someone restore them ? Here are the concerned pages : Cross, Category:Big Cube methods, 3x3x3 Blindfolded, SpeedSolving.com Wiki, Alexander Lau, Gilles Roux, Gans, US Nationals and Open 2008 --Martinss (talk) 11:52, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

Working on it, though when I go back to Restore the deletion log I'm getting "Some or all of the undeletion failed: Invalid or missing revision.
You may have a bad link, or the revision may have been restored or removed from the archive."
Annoying. Looking into it now. --PJK (talk) 14:46, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
I found some old revisions in the Wayback Machine and copy them here: Gilles Roux/old revision, Cross/old_revision. Also, it seems that registred users cannot edit the "broken" pages (Cross, SpeedSolving.com Wiki, Alexander Lau, Gilles Roux, US Nationals and Open 2008) (getting "edits conflict"). --Martinss (talk) 21:33, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
I was thinking that route worse case, but want to figure out why I'm having this issue. 2 questions you may know the answer to: 1) how can we prevent this issue from happening again? and 2) Registered users can't edit "broken" pages, what do I need to do to solve this? I've searched and don't see any options to adjust this. I know the basics of Mediawiki but otherwise new to it. --PJK (talk) 03:49, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
I don't know many things about wikis too but I found this : according to Mediawiki website, this could be Database inconsistencies (maybe due to errors during Mediawiki update). There are a script to solve this (FindAnomalies.php). Someone else had a similar problem after update (here) and the given solution is PopulateRevisionSha1.php. I can't really help more... --Martinss (talk) 15:53, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
I've tried those with no luck, still working at it. Have it noted, I'm away for the coming couple weeks but will try further in when I'm back. I'll paste the latest revision I see for the deleted pages on the discussion of the page. Nice homepage! --PJK (talk) 09:26, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Better Homepage?

Having a look at another puzzle wiki, the homepage has a list of facts and a bit easier navigation for new people to the site. I like the layout and format. Should we modify this homepage to be a bit more inviting or leave it as is? --PJK (talk) 08:37, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

I (just) started something : User:Martinss/Better main page. Is that the kind of things you think of ? --Martinss (talk) 21:36, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
That looks better I think, though on mobile the alignment is a bit off. Looking good - we just need to focus on making it responsive. --PJK (talk) 03:22, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
On the desktop version of the homepage the most viewed icons are left aligned. You think it would be better centered? --PJK (talk) 09:02, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
The homepage looks pretty good, perhaps we should have a section at the top to introduce people to speedcubing first? Things like How to Solve a Cube, Intro to Speedcubing, How to Compete, How to Practice, BLD Tutorial, etc. What do you think? --PJK (talk) 11:55, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

Update Home Page?

Looking through the home page, I noticed a couple things:

  • There's only a few featured articles, and since they update everyday, they loop very often
    • Also, side note on this subject, Feliks' article is featured, and it really bugs me that it says "Today's featured article is the Feliks Zemdegs." lol
  • The featured pictures are outdated, with a couple of them being of Zanchis or Maru cubes. Perhaps newer cubes would be better?
  • Under Solving Variations, Feet solving is listed. While obviously the page itself should stay, should we maybe remove it from the main page since there's no WF events in the WCA anymore?
  • The Cubing methods and substeps infobox can be kind of controversial, by including some methods but not others. I haven't seen anyone with a problem with this though, so this may be an invalid point
  • The Competitive Cubing infobox lists a Sub-15 help page, why does it list specifically sub-15 but no other similar pages?
    • This is more on the topic of the Sub-15 page, but it lists CFOP(labeled Fridrich) only, which is controversial. The topic of road to sub-15 itself is also controversial, as people think certain tasks(i.e: Full PLL) should be focused on at different times.
  • A couple of the "Utilities" are outdated, with the main one being speedcubing.org (hasn't been updated in 8 years)

That's mostly all, and I'd like to think what others viewpoints are on these points, because I defiantly don't think it would be right for me(or any one person) to just change all these things to their liking. ProStar (talk) 17:24, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Atropos Method

The Atropos method was created by Team ZZouxFOPers, but mainly proposed by WarriorCatCuber in the January-February 2020-2021 Method Development Competition. The method uses block building, edge orientation, and other important concepts from all big four methods. There is also a certain freedom as to how you solve with this, you can shape the steps up however you like. It also finishes the last eleven pieces with only 55 algorithms in 3 looks, less than only full OLL in the CFOP method. The method uses about 55 moves in Slice Turn Metric (STM) for an advanced solver


The Steps:

1. Solve a 2x2 block in DBL 2. Orient the remaining edges while solving the DR edge 3. Solve the DF edge and the DRF F2L pair (this is a 2x2x1 block) 4. Solve the DBR corner 5. Solve the DFL corner while orienting the last layer corners by using one of 27 pseudo Winter Variation algorithms 6. Using one of 12 algorithms, permute the last layer corners while solving the BR edge 7. sing one of 16 algorithms, permute the last five edges, finishing the cube.

Alternatives:

•You could solve the DFL F2L pair at step 3, allowing for more of an RU ending (you’d do all of the steps using the FL slot mirrors)v• •You could solve a 2x2 block in DBR instead at the beginning and do the rest of the method mirrored

Pros:

•In general, there are few regrips •Lookahead is straightforward •The algorithms are fast •Some of these steps are even easier to recognize and execute than CFOP F2L •Ergonomics are generally quite good •There’s a reasonable movecount

Cons:

•The last step can be hard to recognize •There are some F2 moves in the second step

Here are three example solves to demonstrate the method to clarify even more:

Example solves Scramble: U2 D2 F' U D2 L2 U2 B R B2 R2 B2 U2 R2 F L2 F U2 D2 F z' // inspection u2 r2 F' U f' R' r' U' r // 2x2 F' U' F U R2 // EODR U2 R' U2 R2 U' R' // DFR block R' U2 R U R' U' R // back corner L' U2 L U' L' U L2 F R' F' L' F R F' // pseudo-WV U' R2 U2 R2 U R2 U F2 U' F2 U F2 R2 // BR+CP L' U' L2 S2 L2 U L2 S2 L' // L5EP

Scramble: L U B2 L2 U2 R' D2 R D2 B2 L F2 L' B2 U F2 L' U R2 F U2 x2 // inspection M F U S' M' F' r2 // 2x2 F2 R F' U' R2 // EODR R U R' U l' U2 l // DFR block R' U' R U' R' U R // Back corner U2 L' U2 L U' L' U L U' L' U2 L //pseudo-WV U2 R2 U F U2 F' U' R2 F U' F' R' U' R // BR+CP M2 U M2 U' L' U' M2 U M2 L // L5EP

Scramble: B' L2 D F2 L2 U R2 B2 F2 D F2 U' R2 B' U' B F D2 U R' B' x2 y' // inspection u' F' u2 r' U2 r // 2x2 L' U' L U2 F' //EO DR R U' R' U2 R U R' // DFR block R' U2 R U R' U' R L' U2 L U2 F L' U2 L U2 L F' L' // pseudo-WV F' U F2 R2 U F' R2 F U' R2 F2 U' F // BR+CP S2 U' S2 L' S L2 S L' U S2 // L5EP

  • Note: These might not be the most representative of movecount, but they do show what the ergonomics and last three steps would look like.