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I need some help undoing the vandalism to the main page and discussion.  Thanks
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--[[User:PJK|PJK]] ([[User talk:PJK|talk]]) 05:14, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
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Today I've upgraded MediaWiki to 1.31.  It has quite a few new features, you can see here:
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https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.31
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Also looking into changing the theme a bit to something more modern.  If you guys have any ideas, post them here.  Also, on the homepage I see the "Template:NUMBEROFVIEWS" isn't showing correctly, please resolve that.
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--[[User:PJK|PJK]] ([[User talk:PJK|talk]]) 10:53, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
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: It looks like the "Template:NUMBEROFVIEWS" has been deleted from MediaWiki 3 years ago. See [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words#Statistics] and [https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/mediawiki/core/+/150699/21/includes/MagicWord.php]. I suggest using "''... and contibute to our {{NUMBEROFEDITS}} edits.''" with template <nowiki>{{NUMBEROFEDITS}}</nowiki>. Regards, --[[User:Martinss|Martinss]] ([[User talk:Martinss|talk]]) 21:09, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
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: Moreover, this version of the main page isn't showing correctly on my (wide) screen [https://zupimages.net/up/18/35/y1th.jpg]. I just edited it (using the more modern version I made a while ago). Undo if you think it's necessary. Regards, --[[User:Martinss|Martinss]] ([[User talk:Martinss|talk]]) 21:09, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
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== Protected this page ==
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Since the main page is the most frequently visited page on this wiki and thus, any vandalism, even if not long-lasting, can cause a lot of harm, I have decided to protect this page to prevent this scenario.
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If you have suggestions for a better main page, you can perform the edits on a sub-page of your account (for example ''User:YourUsername/Main Page'') and then, when you're done, create a new topic on this talk page to show that you would like to change the main page. You should also list what you've changed and why you think that it improves on the current main page. The main page will be replaced with your page only if an admin agrees. Adding a new section and giving reasons ''does not'' guarantee that your changes will be accepted. - [[User:RedstoneTim|RedstoneTim]] ([[User talk:RedstoneTim|talk]]) 13:27, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
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== Vandalism ==
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Several aricles has been deleted yesterday by [[User:Dsiuth_swaed]] (vandalism). Could someone restore them ? Here are the concerned pages : [[Cross]], [[:Category:Big Cube methods]], [[3x3x3 Blindfolded]], [[SpeedSolving.com Wiki]], [[Alexander Lau]], [[Gilles Roux]], [[Gans]], [[US Nationals and Open 2008]] --[[User:Martinss|Martinss]] ([[User talk:Martinss|talk]]) 11:52, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
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: Working on it, though when I go back to Restore the deletion log I'm getting "Some or all of the undeletion failed: Invalid or missing revision.
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: You may have a bad link, or the revision may have been restored or removed from the archive."
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: Annoying.  Looking into it now. --[[User:PJK|PJK]] ([[User talk:PJK|talk]]) 14:46, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
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:: I found some old revisions in the [https://archive.org/web/ Wayback Machine] and copy them here: [[Gilles Roux/old revision]], [[Cross/old_revision]]. Also, it seems that registred users cannot edit the "broken" pages ([[Cross]], [[SpeedSolving.com Wiki]], [[Alexander Lau]], [[Gilles Roux]], [[US Nationals and Open 2008]]) (getting "edits conflict"). --[[User:Martinss|Martinss]] ([[User talk:Martinss|talk]]) 21:33, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
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::: I was thinking that route worse case, but want to figure out why I'm having this issue.  2 questions you may know the answer to: 1) how can we prevent this issue from happening again? and 2) Registered users can't edit "broken" pages, what do I need to do to solve this? I've searched and don't see any options to adjust this.  I know the basics of Mediawiki but otherwise new to it. --[[User:PJK|PJK]] ([[User talk:PJK|talk]]) 03:49, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
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:::: I don't know many things about wikis too but I found this : according to Mediawiki website, this could be [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Database_inconsistencies Database inconsistencies] (maybe due to errors during Mediawiki update). There are a script to solve this ([https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FindAnomalies.php FindAnomalies.php]). Someone else had a similar problem after update ([https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T200653 here]) and the given solution is [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:PopulateRevisionSha1.php PopulateRevisionSha1.php]. I can't really help more... --[[User:Martinss|Martinss]] ([[User talk:Martinss|talk]]) 15:53, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
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::::: I've tried those with no luck, still working at it.  Have it noted, I'm away for the coming couple weeks but will try further in when I'm back. I'll paste the latest revision I see for the deleted pages on the discussion of the page.  Nice homepage! --[[User:PJK|PJK]] ([[User talk:PJK|talk]]) 09:26, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
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== Better Homepage? ==
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Having a look at another puzzle wiki, the homepage has a list of facts and a bit easier navigation for new people to the site.  I like the layout and format.  Should we modify this homepage to be a bit more inviting or leave it as is?
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--[[User:PJK|PJK]] ([[User talk:PJK|talk]]) 08:37, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
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: I (just) started something : [[User:Martinss/Better main page]]. Is that the kind of things you think of ? --[[User:Martinss|Martinss]] ([[User talk:Martinss|talk]]) 21:36, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
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:: That looks better I think, though on mobile the alignment is a bit off.  Looking good - we just need to focus on making it responsive. --[[User:PJK|PJK]] ([[User talk:PJK|talk]]) 03:22, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
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::: On the desktop version of the homepage the most viewed icons are left aligned.  You think it would be better centered? --[[User:PJK|PJK]] ([[User talk:PJK|talk]]) 09:02, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
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:::: The homepage looks pretty good, perhaps we should have a section at the top to introduce people to speedcubing first? Things like How to Solve a Cube, Intro to Speedcubing, How to Compete, How to Practice, BLD Tutorial, etc.  What do you think? --[[User:PJK|PJK]] ([[User talk:PJK|talk]]) 11:55, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
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== Update Home Page? ==
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Looking through the home page, I noticed a couple things:
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*There's only a few featured articles, and since they update everyday, they loop very often
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**Also, side note on this subject, Feliks' article is featured, and it really bugs me that it says "Today's featured article is the Feliks Zemdegs." lol
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*The featured pictures are outdated, with a couple of them being of Zanchis or Maru cubes. Perhaps newer cubes would be better?
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*Under Solving Variations, Feet solving is listed. While obviously the page itself should stay, should we maybe remove it from the main page since there's no WF events in the WCA anymore?
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*The Cubing methods and substeps infobox can be kind of controversial, by including some methods but not others. I haven't seen anyone with a problem with this though, so this may be an invalid point
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*The Competitive Cubing infobox lists a Sub-15 help page, why does it list specifically sub-15 but no other similar pages?
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**This is more on the topic of the Sub-15 page, but it lists CFOP(labeled Fridrich) only, which is controversial. The topic of road to sub-15 itself is also controversial, as people think certain tasks(i.e: Full PLL) should be focused on at different times.
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*A couple of the "Utilities" are outdated, with the main one being speedcubing.org (hasn't been updated in 8 years)
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That's mostly all, and I'd like to think what others viewpoints are on these points, because I defiantly don't think it would be right for me(or any one person) to just change all these things to their liking. [[User:ProStar|ProStar]] ([[User talk:ProStar|talk]]) 17:24, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 16:03, 17 October 2021

I need some help undoing the vandalism to the main page and discussion. Thanks --PJK (talk) 05:14, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

Today I've upgraded MediaWiki to 1.31. It has quite a few new features, you can see here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.31 Also looking into changing the theme a bit to something more modern. If you guys have any ideas, post them here. Also, on the homepage I see the "Template:NUMBEROFVIEWS" isn't showing correctly, please resolve that. --PJK (talk) 10:53, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

It looks like the "Template:NUMBEROFVIEWS" has been deleted from MediaWiki 3 years ago. See [1] and [2]. I suggest using "... and contibute to our 56,041 edits." with template {{NUMBEROFEDITS}}. Regards, --Martinss (talk) 21:09, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
Moreover, this version of the main page isn't showing correctly on my (wide) screen [3]. I just edited it (using the more modern version I made a while ago). Undo if you think it's necessary. Regards, --Martinss (talk) 21:09, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

Protected this page

Since the main page is the most frequently visited page on this wiki and thus, any vandalism, even if not long-lasting, can cause a lot of harm, I have decided to protect this page to prevent this scenario.

If you have suggestions for a better main page, you can perform the edits on a sub-page of your account (for example User:YourUsername/Main Page) and then, when you're done, create a new topic on this talk page to show that you would like to change the main page. You should also list what you've changed and why you think that it improves on the current main page. The main page will be replaced with your page only if an admin agrees. Adding a new section and giving reasons does not guarantee that your changes will be accepted. - RedstoneTim (talk) 13:27, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Vandalism

Several aricles has been deleted yesterday by User:Dsiuth_swaed (vandalism). Could someone restore them ? Here are the concerned pages : Cross, Category:Big Cube methods, 3x3x3 Blindfolded, SpeedSolving.com Wiki, Alexander Lau, Gilles Roux, Gans, US Nationals and Open 2008 --Martinss (talk) 11:52, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

Working on it, though when I go back to Restore the deletion log I'm getting "Some or all of the undeletion failed: Invalid or missing revision.
You may have a bad link, or the revision may have been restored or removed from the archive."
Annoying. Looking into it now. --PJK (talk) 14:46, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
I found some old revisions in the Wayback Machine and copy them here: Gilles Roux/old revision, Cross/old_revision. Also, it seems that registred users cannot edit the "broken" pages (Cross, SpeedSolving.com Wiki, Alexander Lau, Gilles Roux, US Nationals and Open 2008) (getting "edits conflict"). --Martinss (talk) 21:33, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
I was thinking that route worse case, but want to figure out why I'm having this issue. 2 questions you may know the answer to: 1) how can we prevent this issue from happening again? and 2) Registered users can't edit "broken" pages, what do I need to do to solve this? I've searched and don't see any options to adjust this. I know the basics of Mediawiki but otherwise new to it. --PJK (talk) 03:49, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
I don't know many things about wikis too but I found this : according to Mediawiki website, this could be Database inconsistencies (maybe due to errors during Mediawiki update). There are a script to solve this (FindAnomalies.php). Someone else had a similar problem after update (here) and the given solution is PopulateRevisionSha1.php. I can't really help more... --Martinss (talk) 15:53, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
I've tried those with no luck, still working at it. Have it noted, I'm away for the coming couple weeks but will try further in when I'm back. I'll paste the latest revision I see for the deleted pages on the discussion of the page. Nice homepage! --PJK (talk) 09:26, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Better Homepage?

Having a look at another puzzle wiki, the homepage has a list of facts and a bit easier navigation for new people to the site. I like the layout and format. Should we modify this homepage to be a bit more inviting or leave it as is? --PJK (talk) 08:37, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

I (just) started something : User:Martinss/Better main page. Is that the kind of things you think of ? --Martinss (talk) 21:36, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
That looks better I think, though on mobile the alignment is a bit off. Looking good - we just need to focus on making it responsive. --PJK (talk) 03:22, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
On the desktop version of the homepage the most viewed icons are left aligned. You think it would be better centered? --PJK (talk) 09:02, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
The homepage looks pretty good, perhaps we should have a section at the top to introduce people to speedcubing first? Things like How to Solve a Cube, Intro to Speedcubing, How to Compete, How to Practice, BLD Tutorial, etc. What do you think? --PJK (talk) 11:55, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

Update Home Page?

Looking through the home page, I noticed a couple things:

  • There's only a few featured articles, and since they update everyday, they loop very often
    • Also, side note on this subject, Feliks' article is featured, and it really bugs me that it says "Today's featured article is the Feliks Zemdegs." lol
  • The featured pictures are outdated, with a couple of them being of Zanchis or Maru cubes. Perhaps newer cubes would be better?
  • Under Solving Variations, Feet solving is listed. While obviously the page itself should stay, should we maybe remove it from the main page since there's no WF events in the WCA anymore?
  • The Cubing methods and substeps infobox can be kind of controversial, by including some methods but not others. I haven't seen anyone with a problem with this though, so this may be an invalid point
  • The Competitive Cubing infobox lists a Sub-15 help page, why does it list specifically sub-15 but no other similar pages?
    • This is more on the topic of the Sub-15 page, but it lists CFOP(labeled Fridrich) only, which is controversial. The topic of road to sub-15 itself is also controversial, as people think certain tasks(i.e: Full PLL) should be focused on at different times.
  • A couple of the "Utilities" are outdated, with the main one being speedcubing.org (hasn't been updated in 8 years)

That's mostly all, and I'd like to think what others viewpoints are on these points, because I defiantly don't think it would be right for me(or any one person) to just change all these things to their liking. ProStar (talk) 17:24, 5 May 2020 (UTC)