abunickabhi
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ZBLL CN is not that hard. It does take a lot of work to get flawless recognition though. I am not the right person to have an opinion as I have given up on both full ZBLL and full CN, U' R' F2 E' F2 R S' U S R E R'.
Check the wiki: https://www.speedsolving.com/wiki/index.php/Jason_BaumSo I saw somewhere, that there is something known as Jason Baum Recognition for Colour Neutrality. I can't find anything about it. I also want to see if it is rather popular and if I am just living under a rock.
Anyone?
Recognition for ZBLL is going to be the same for all colors. You never go based on a straight color, but rather the relationship of colors to each other along the y-axis.So I saw somewhere, that there is something known as Jason Baum Recognition for Colour Neutrality. I can't find anything about it. I also want to see if it is rather popular and if I am just living under a rock.
Anyone?
There’s no properly set answer, all come up as many times as the other and I guess you’ll just have to skim the algorithms to seeI am planning on learning one OCLL subset of ZBLL. I’ve heard that the T, U, and L subsets are the most recommended sets to learn. But out of those three which one is the most useful? By that I mean which ZBLL subset will save the most time over OCLL -> PLL?
For ZBLL?Is it worth it to learn the last two T case sets?
They all feel the same and I'm kind of intimidated by the similarity of each alg.
This is the ZBLL help thread is it not?There’s no properly set answer, all come up as many times as the other and I guess you’ll just have to skim the algorithms to see
For ZBLL?
Yeah, why not (for the original question)This is the ZBLL help thread is it not?
Yes, but you should also keep in mind that I have no idea which algs you mean exactly by "the last two T case sets". There's no standardised ordering of the subsets; which ones you learn first or learn last are up to you, and we won't have that information if you don't tell us.Is it worth it to learn the last two T case sets?
They all feel the same and I'm kind of intimidated by the similarity of each alg.
My bad!Yes, but you should also keep in mind that I have no idea which algs you mean exactly by "the last two T case sets". There's no standardised ordering of the subsets; which ones you learn first or learn last are up to you, and we won't have that information if you don't tell us.
For example, AlgDb and SCDB both group the T ZBLLs by corner permutation (i.e. grouped by CLL case), with the diag CP and the solved CP subsets as the last two ones, while if you look at Juju ZBLL, that has solved CP and diag CP at the top.
Actually 42 casesthe 50ish cases
Yeah 42 cases, thanks for being precise.Actually 42 cases
What do you mean by EO with COLL?i already did 2x2 ortega so my recog. is good enough but is there a speed diffrence in using EO with COLL than ZBLL?
You know that EO-COLL isn't the end of a solve like ZBLL right? You still have to do EPLL 11/12 solves. So yes there is a huge difference between forcing EO, doing COLL, and then EPLL vs just ZBLL.lIke in 2 look OLL . Dot line & L
Do you know full OLL PLL? If not you don't need to even think about ZB for now. If so, you probably should work on cross+1 and F2L. But if you are sure you wanna spend time on ZBLL learn in this order: (Either T then U or U then T), L, 2GLL H, 2GLL Pi, Diag H, and Diag Pi. Maybe 2GLL S/AS.thx but which ZBLL subset should I learn first 2nd ect and which aren't worth learning