# Your best time with Beginner's method?

#### number1failure

##### Member
What is your best time/average using the Beginner's Method? You know, like that sh*tty method they teach you in "7 steps" in that packet that comes with a Rubik's Cube. My best time was 0.32.24. That solve was EXTREMELY lucky though. My Ao5 with Beginner's is 1.09.96. What's yours?

tl;dr
The "beginner's method" is the one in the packet that comes with a Rubik's Cube. What is your best time/average with that method?

P.S.
Does anybody know the correct name of the "beginner's method", as I called it?

#### Cyrus C.

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Layer By Layer. There's 2 ways I know of doing this, with 4-Look LL, and with the 4 algorithm LL. I did 1 solve with each.

41.27 with the 4 algorithm LL.

28.03 with 4-Look LL.

I remember someone talking about sub-20 with LBL, I think they used 4-Look LL.

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#### Cubenovice

##### Forever Slow
how many looks for LL?
4 look OLL PLL or Dan Browns RDRD or whatever it is...

#### Logan

##### Alot of Azure
I used this method for a LOOONNGG time before learning 2 look pll (almost done with F2l also).

Best avg: 24.39

Best single: 19.xy

#### amostay2004

##### Member
oya I misread the video description sorry

#### Cride5

41.16 average of 5 using 1 alg ([wiki]sexy method[/wiki])

#### SZ

##### Member
whats your fastest solve using beginners method?

mine currently is 48 seconds using this method. Probably a dumb question but just wanted to see how bad this method is.

#### tozies24

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I am pretty sure that people have gotten sub 15 with it. Maybe even lower (I'm sure others are more knowledgable)

#### Cool Frog

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I have gotten a 12 second solve with a Beginnerish method.

IIRC Erik <insert long last name here> got a sub 15 average with beginners method.

#### Cool Frog

##### Member
Time to go off-topic: Waterman is technically LBL; L, R, M, instead of D, E, U. If Harris Chan is an old-school bad-ass, then who knows what mr Waterman is:
Quote from forever ago.... anyhow, Would that make roux LBL...
or would it be a O2L method.... (Opposite two layers)

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#### JonnyWhoopes

Quote from forever ago.... anyhow, Would that make roux LBL...
or would it be a O2L method.... (Opposite two layers)
I'm pretty sure Roux is considered corners-first.

#### hyunchoi98

##### Member
So you mean the Dan Brown method?
*tries solve right now*
i got a 45.24 and a 39.54
the 39.54 solve is just a bit above average for me,
mostly because i solve LL with beginners.

PS: i know it's now officially called the 'Dan Brown Method' but i mean the one shown in his video.
Plus in korea, beginner's method is different.

#### just a cuber

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single: :23 second (complete LL skip with accidental x-cross)
average: 1:00

can't do a more recent average because i can't remember the algorithms