[WR] Yiheng Wang 0.78 2x2 WR Average

[bldcuber314]

I think the best option here is to legalise sliding. If Yiheng slides but everyone else does as well, it's still fair.

Maybe you're touching the cube before the timer starts, which means the time you got might not be entirely representative of how fast you solved the puzzle. Except that issue is present in every other event, since you could argue that pickup/drop time is not part of solving the puzzle but is still included in the time.

If sliding is illegal, it gives way to much bigger issues. You would have to start recording and framecounting every solve, which is simply not achievable. Or get rid of an event that people love and while it may be fast, it isn't the same thing every time like Magic or unhygienic like Feet.

At least legalising sliding, while it may create a new standard, would still be fair and not disruptive to the community.

 

[Exmestify]

with rules, there will always be rule-breakers

 

[efattah]

During a track race if someone starts running before the signal for the race to start causing this person to win a race would this be ok? No. This person would be getting an unfair advantage over other racers. Oh right everyone should just start running before the start. This is same for cubing, you should not get a result faster than what you really achieved.

People got mad at Lance Armstrong for winning all the tour-de-france cycling races, when they found out he was doping. But then it came out that everyone was doping, and Lance still won, so he is still better than everyone else. Sadly, in athletics & cycling, the doping problem was solved by everyone doing it. It is basically impossible now to win at cycling or athletics without doping, because everyone dopes. The same pattern happens in all sports and now it is starting in cubing. We have to deal with it.
It doesn't matter if your true solve time is different than the recorded time. Yiheng will win, no matter if his competitors are allowed to slide or not.
In the end, timing solves is about figuring out who is fastest. What the actual time was is secondary. You could make the stackmat time the solve in an undetermined time unit called a 'jiggit'. Yiheng solved it in 199 jiggits. Someone else solved it in 234 jiggits. Yiheng wins. The time in seconds doesn't matter.

 

[SkewbIsTheBestEvent]

It doesn't matter if your true solve time is different than the recorded time. Yiheng will win, no matter if his competitors are allowed to slide or not.

read the post i made today

 

[FenTheGoat]

make a video



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this cursed thing. heehee put your thumbs on the little thumb pads! can't slide now can you??

I think another issue will arise. I know from personal experience, a lot of comps still use g4 timers. It’s easy to say “Well just use g5” But, if we go to less fortunate areas of the world, that’s a BIG ask to make them update ALL their timers to g5s. I feel like using g5 4-pad mode can’t be the solution here

 

[mikefield]

Sliding timer starts are legal people just want to discredit Yiheng

Absolutely not legal, just becoming very hard to spot.

When yiheng starts the timer, his palms are on the wrong side, and also he is touching the cube when the timer starts. Both +2 violations, but almost impossible to spot in real time, but making significant time savings at WR level.

• A4b) The competitor uses their fingers to touch the elevated sensor surfaces of the Stackmat timer. The competitor's palms must be facing down, and located on the side of the timer that is closer to the competitor. Penalty: time penalty (+2 seconds).
  • A4b1) The competitor must have no physical contact with the puzzle while starting the solve. Penalty: time penalty (+2 seconds).
    

 

[OtaMota]

It is not entirely accurate to conclude that. Framecounting at 30FPS is inaccurate by +-0.0333... seconds, so if there is a discrepancy smaller than that value, there really isn't much you can infer.

The 60 FPS video was also used you know

 

[qwr]

I would be fine if there was a rule that every WR or NR had to be on camera to count. It's the standard for any other sport, including "sports" like speedrunning.

 

[Cubinginatree]

Guys let's face the truth. Yiheng did not do anything wrong. Nothing at all. We have been set up. Someone is behind this whole scheme and there is one thing I know. Yiheng has been FRAMED.

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Frame counting, framed. Haha I'm hilarious.

 

[turtwig]

I would be fine if there was a rule that every WR or NR had to be on camera to count. It's the standard for any other sport, including "sports" like speedrunning.

This would create a paradox where, if you weren't filming, you would have to be DNF'd for a record time when you would've been fine with a slower time that isn't a record.

 

[bldcuber314]

I would be fine if there was a rule that every WR or NR had to be on camera to count. It's the standard for any other sport, including "sports" like speedrunning.

What about random NRs for smaller countries? Or stuff like sprint event singles where people with normally no chance can break the record? People would be discouraged and it would be tricky for everybody to record their solves.

 

[NigelTheCuber]

At least legalising sliding, while it may create a new standard, would still be fair and not disruptive to the community.

sorry for bump but here are my thoughts on this
if we legalise sliding, we will have to define how much sliding is legal. on one of the solves in yihengs 'wr', he started turning before the timer started (according to framecounts). if we do not do this people could do half of their solves with their wrists still on the timer which makes an even worse situation than if we just banned sliding completely and +2ed any solves where a sliding start was used.

 

[precompsubwr]

sorry for bump but here are my thoughts on this
if we legalise sliding, we will have to define how much sliding is legal. on one of the solves in yihengs 'wr', he started turning before the timer started (according to framecounts). if we do not do this people could do half of their solves with their wrists still on the timer which makes an even worse situation than if we just banned sliding completely and +2ed any solves where a sliding start was used.

sliding start = 0.17 wr single dingle...