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Why is there such a huge variation in my solve times?

F2LCub

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I'm working towards sub-40 and have a PB of 29 seconds with a complete PLL skip. My averages usually seem to be around 40-46 seconds with my worst solves (bad F2L/wrong algs/double algs in PLL) over 50 seconds and my best solves 30-something seconds.

Why does there seem to be such a big variation and how can I try to make my solves more consistent?
 

Zerksies

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At them speeds you are just inconsistent. Get PLL times down and the biggest thing to gain speed is F2L
 

CRL0312

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When you start getting sub-1 (minute) your times will start dropping really fast, they vary a lot, but once you usually hit a 30 second average, you will have the consistency to keep your average around the same place, so the averages should stay consistent and the same.
 

CRL0312

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New people?
Yes just keep practicing, you seem relatively new. I think that I got to 30s average relatively fast, that’s only because I practiced, there’s really nothing new (besides 2 look OLL and 2 look PLL) when your getting your average down to 30.

A really strange tip here that worked for me. After like a week of 3x3 (I learned 2x2 first) I had my average down to about 50s, I was tired of the 3x3 and decided to go back to the 2x2, I learned Ortega and got ok with it. I came back to 3x3 and my times dropped instantly by like 10 seconds, I’m thinking cause I got a little better a recognition and tps/solving consistently.

So I had my avg down to 40s, now I didn’t want to learn F2L but I didn’t want to use that beginner method (cross, layer, middle layer, OLL, PLL). So I learned this
, I recommend you learn this, this will bring your average down by a LOT, I got my average to like 29s with this, but once you hit like 30s average learn the real F2L (either algorithmic or intuitive, up to you), I think I learned F2L a little late.
You can learn algorithmic here: http://algdb.net/Set/F2L
Also if you learned the little method I did and some of his algorithms are inconsistent and bad you can visit the same place (http://algdb.net/Set/F2L) and learn different algs.
The algs in the vid are 32, 33, 34, 38, and 39.

Sorry if this was long, hope this helps.
 

One Wheel

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Variation is a good thing: it means you've got a lot of easy improvement coming up. Right now I'm stuck at about 30 seconds on 3x3, with maybe 1 solve out of 15-20 above 35 seconds and 1 out of 15-20 under 25 seconds. If I was getting 1/3 of my solves over 35 seconds and 1/3 under 25 I would know that I just needed to fix the slow ones to average 25 seconds instead of 30, and if I fix the slow ones the fast ones will probably get faster too, and I might average close to 20. I'm starting to wonder if I need to bite the bullet and learn full OLL to improve. M2 (almost done), 4BLD and 5BLD to learn first, at any rate.
 

Cuber Chris

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I recently did 100 timed solves and I thought the same thing. My best was 25.087(new PB :))and my worst was 42.172. I think the reason for my slower times were simply because of mistakes. My cross or f2l took too long and i know my look ahead needs work. I even managed to pair an f2l pair wrong and insert it. So like everyone else has said after a bit of practice less mistakes will happen and the times should become more consistent :).... hopefully :p Screenshot_20171024-182030.png
 

One Wheel

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Most people these days are gonna consider you somewhat new until you average like 20, unless you've been around for a while but don't improve past that which is not very common.
I'd say more like a month or two. Putting an arbitrary time/ability level in it is kind of silly, to be honest. A few days on the forum, though, regardless of how long you've been cubing, probably counts as new, but making a thread like this is not really a problem, and it is asking a fair question.
 
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