# Which Cube Should I Get? Up To Date Recommendations

#### baseballjello67

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Aosu WRM isn't terrific, the Nezha has been out for like half a second so I'll wait until the public opinion guides me, and the MGC could move to expert, but let's wait until the Valk 5 has completely died.
yeah but the aosu wrm isnt anywhere. Put it in the Great area.

Also why is the wuque in the expert?

#### Shahir

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Last updated May 25th, 2022 at 3:02 P.M - If you suggest any changes to these recommendations, please comment below which your recommendation and reason for the change. These suggestions are for the community and by the community, so please help keep these suggestions up to date by replying here with changes.
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Budget - Dirt Cheap Cubes only
Great - Pretty good and you won't have to sell your house
Expert - The best cube on the market

Recommended 2x2x2:
• Budget: QiYi MS 2x2 - $6.95 - A smooth cube with decent performance. • Great: MGC 2x2 -$9.99 - Fast cube, corner-cutting is legendary.
• Expert: QiYi Valk 2M - $19.95 - Used by current world record average holder Zayn Khanani - or YJ MGC2 Elite -$20.99 - Crispy fast cube, corner-cutting is excellent.

Recommended 3x3x3:
• Budget: Yulong V2M 3x3- $7.95 or QiYi MS 3x3-$7.95 - Cubes that feel crispy and smooth with ok corner-cutting, excellent for the price.
• Great: MoYu RS3M 2020 3x3 - $8.95 - A well-performing, crispy, hollow cube with excellent corner-cutting. • Expert: GAN 11M Pro 3x3 -$64.95 or Dayan Tengyun v1 $25.95 or MoYu Weilong WR M -$38.99 - All very stable cubes, the Gan is fast, the Tengyun is controllable, and the WRM is a little bit of both. - Used by many world-class solvers.

Recommended 4x4x4:

Recommended 5x5x5:

Recommended 6x6x6:

Recommended 7x7x7:
• Budget: QiYi QiXing 7x7 - $16.99 - Poor performing cube, it gets the job done though. • Great: YJ MGC 7x7 -$35.99 - A cheaper feel, excellent corner-cutting, pops are rare. - Used by many fast speedsolvers.
• Expert: Yuxin Hays 7 M - $54.95 or XMan Spark 7x7 -$49.95

Recommended Megaminx:
• Budget: Qiyi Qiheng - $7.95 - A poor-performing budget megaminx, very slow and locky. • Great: YJ YuHu Megaminx V2 M -$13.99 - The fastest megaminx on the market, excellent corner-cutting, and a very crunchy feel.
• Expert: X Man Galaxy v2 M - $29.99 - or Dayan Megaminx V2 M -$32.99 - A slow cube, that can be set up to be fast, good corner-cutting. - Used by current average and single megaminx world record holder Juan Pablo Huanqui.

Recommended Skewb:
• Budget: QiYi QiCheng Skewb - $7.50 - Slow unstable cube, but it gets the job done. • Great: X Man Wingy Skewb -$19.99 - Crunchy, excellent stability but overall, very slow.
• Expert: Gan Skewb M Standard - $21.99 - Smooth, fast, and stable with excellent corner-cutting. - Used by Carter Kucala, current skewb world record average holder. Recommended Clock: • Budget: Lingao Clock -$9.95 - Very locky, performance is poor.
• Great: Shengshou Clock - $9.95 - Locky, overall poor performance. • Expert: QiYi Magnetic Clock -$34.95 - Very smooth, honestly your only option if you want to get serious about clock. - All world-class solvers use this clock.

Recommended Pyraminx:
• Budget: Yulong v2 M Pyraminx - $7.99 - A slower option, poor corner-cutting, but very consistent and good for it's price. • Great: Yuxin Little Magic -$8.99 or QiYi MS Pyraminx $9.99 - Both feel cheaper but very smooth and fast. - Both cubes have or are mained by Tymon Kolasinski, a former pyraminx world record holder. • Expert: GAN Pyraminx-$18.95 - Very smooth but also unstable, corner-cutting is ok.

Recommended Square-1:
• Budget: Qiyi Qifa S - $7.99 or Yuxin Little Magic Square 1 -$6.99 - Both feel cheap and locky, but perform well for their price, the QiYi Qifa has better corner-cutting.
• Great: X-Man Volt $13.99 - Crunchy and good corner cutting but very unstable at high TPS. • Expert: YJ MGC Square-1 -$20.99 - A buttery smooth, fast cube, most people consider it the best on the market. - Almost all world-class solvers use this cube.

Recommended MBLD cubes:
• Budget: Yuxin Little Magic 3x3 $4.95 - A cube that feels cheap but performs ok. - Used by Graham Siggins, the current Multiblind world record holder. • Great: MoYu RS3M 2020 3x3 -$8.95 - A hollow, snappy, well-performing cube.
• Expert: MoYu Weilong WR M 2021 $29.95 - A very smooth, buttery cube with excellent corner-cutting. - Mostly too expensive to use in large muliblind attempts. ------- There are many places to buy puzzles, and depending on what country you live in, shipping will be cheaper. Below is a list of stores to consider: • If you see anything wrong with my current version, feel free to point it out to me in a dm. (@cuberswoop) Moyo Meilong 3x3 is Great #### UncleFrank ##### Member Last updated May 25th, 2022 at 3:02 P.M - If you suggest any changes to these recommendations, please comment below which your recommendation and reason for the change. These suggestions are for the community and by the community, so please help keep these suggestions up to date by replying here with changes. --------------------- Budget - Dirt Cheap Cubes only Great - Pretty good and you won't have to sell your house Expert - The best cube on the market Recommended 2x2x2: • Budget: QiYi MS 2x2 -$6.95 - A smooth cube with decent performance.
• Great: MGC 2x2 - $9.99 - Fast cube, corner-cutting is legendary. • Expert: QiYi Valk 2M -$19.95 - Used by current world record average holder Zayn Khanani - or YJ MGC2 Elite - $20.99 - Crispy fast cube, corner-cutting is excellent. Recommended 3x3x3: • Budget: Yulong V2M 3x3-$7.95 or QiYi MS 3x3- $7.95 - Cubes that feel crispy and smooth with ok corner-cutting, excellent for the price. • Great: MoYu RS3M 2020 3x3 -$8.95 - A well-performing, crispy, hollow cube with excellent corner-cutting.
• Expert: GAN 11M Pro 3x3 - $64.95 or Dayan Tengyun v1$25.95 or MoYu Weilong WR M - $38.99 - All very stable cubes, the Gan is fast, the Tengyun is controllable, and the WRM is a little bit of both. - Used by many world-class solvers. Recommended 4x4x4: Recommended 5x5x5: Recommended 6x6x6: Recommended 7x7x7: • Budget: QiYi QiXing 7x7 -$16.99 - Poor performing cube, it gets the job done though.
• Great: YJ MGC 7x7 - $35.99 - A cheaper feel, excellent corner-cutting, pops are rare. - Used by many fast speedsolvers. • Expert: Yuxin Hays 7 M -$54.95 or XMan Spark 7x7 - $49.95 Recommended Megaminx: • Budget: Qiyi Qiheng -$7.95 - A poor-performing budget megaminx, very slow and locky.
• Great: YJ YuHu Megaminx V2 M - $13.99 - The fastest megaminx on the market, excellent corner-cutting, and a very crunchy feel. • Expert: X Man Galaxy v2 M -$29.99 - or Dayan Megaminx V2 M - $32.99 - A slow cube, that can be set up to be fast, good corner-cutting. - Used by current average and single megaminx world record holder Juan Pablo Huanqui. Recommended Skewb: • Budget: QiYi QiCheng Skewb -$7.50 - Slow unstable cube, but it gets the job done.
• Great: X Man Wingy Skewb - $19.99 - Crunchy, excellent stability but overall, very slow. • Expert: Gan Skewb M Standard -$21.99 - Smooth, fast, and stable with excellent corner-cutting. - Used by Carter Kucala, current skewb world record average holder.

Recommended Clock:
• Budget: Lingao Clock - $9.95 - Very locky, performance is poor. • Great: Shengshou Clock -$9.95 - Locky, overall poor performance.
• Expert: QiYi Magnetic Clock - $34.95 - Very smooth, honestly your only option if you want to get serious about clock. - All world-class solvers use this clock. Recommended Pyraminx: • Budget: Yulong v2 M Pyraminx -$7.99 - A slower option, poor corner-cutting, but very consistent and good for it's price.
• Great: Yuxin Little Magic - $8.99 or QiYi MS Pyraminx$9.99 - Both feel cheaper but very smooth and fast. - Both cubes have or are mained by Tymon Kolasinski, a former pyraminx world record holder.
• Expert: GAN Pyraminx- $18.95 - Very smooth but also unstable, corner-cutting is ok. Recommended Square-1: • Budget: Qiyi Qifa S -$7.99 or Yuxin Little Magic Square 1 - $6.99 - Both feel cheap and locky, but perform well for their price, the QiYi Qifa has better corner-cutting. • Great: X-Man Volt$13.99 - Crunchy and good corner cutting but very unstable at high TPS.
• Expert: YJ MGC Square-1 - $20.99 - A buttery smooth, fast cube, most people consider it the best on the market. - Almost all world-class solvers use this cube. Recommended MBLD cubes: • Budget: Yuxin Little Magic 3x3$4.95 - A cube that feels cheap but performs ok. - Used by Graham Siggins, the current Multiblind world record holder.
• Great: MoYu RS3M 2020 3x3 - $8.95 - A hollow, snappy, well-performing cube. • Expert: MoYu Weilong WR M 2021$29.95 - A very smooth, buttery cube with excellent corner-cutting. - Mostly too expensive to use in large muliblind attempts.
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There are many places to buy puzzles, and depending on what country you live in, shipping will be cheaper. Below is a list of stores to consider:

• If you see anything wrong with my current version, feel free to point it out to me in a dm. (@cuberswoop)

2x2 budget: YJ Yupo V2 M
3x3 budget: Moyu Meilong M
3x3 expert: Moyu Weilong WR M 2021, in place of the WR M
budget 4x4 and 5x5 should be Meilong M, not plain Meilong
4x4 expert: Moyu Aosu WR M, instead of wuque
7x7 budget: YJ Yufu V2 M
Skewb budget: Moyu RS
Pyraminx budget: Moyu RS
Pyraminx great: Moyu Weilong

#### Jilli0

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Dayan Tengyun M or Dayan Tengyun v2 M?

#### gsingh

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2x2 budget: YJ Yupo V2 M
3x3 budget: Moyu Meilong M
3x3 expert: Moyu Weilong WR M 2021, in place of the WR M
budget 4x4 and 5x5 should be Meilong M, not plain Meilong
4x4 expert: Moyu Aosu WR M, instead of wuque
7x7 budget: YJ Yufu V2 M
Skewb budget: Moyu RS
Pyraminx budget: Moyu RS
Pyraminx great: Moyu Weilong
Dang moyu fanboy
Angstrom Gan 12 maglev should be in 3x3 expert, a lot of top cubers are using it
I havnt seen any pro cuber using wrm 2021, that seems to be a cube more slower advanced solvers( 8-12 seconds) use.
The expert category should have cubes that the experts are using, not cubes intermidiate solvers think are the best
This list seems to be going off of what jperm and the other Youcubers think anyway, and they are not experts

Here is my list
R = Recomended

2x2
Budget- Qiyi MS
Great- Yj Mgc
Expert- Valk 2 M ( Discontinued) Yj Mgc Elite

3x3
Budget-Moyu RS3M 2020
Great- Moyu Wrm 2021, Gan 11 M Duo (R)
Expert- Angstrom Gan 11 M Pro, Angstrom Gan 12 Maglev ( R)

4x4
Budget- Yuxin Little Magic, Yj Yusu V2 M(R)
Great- Mgc
Expert- WRM

5x5
Budget- Yj Yuchang V2 M (R)
Great- Mgc
Expert- Valk 5, WRM
Valk is smoother, WRM has a more plasticy feel, so its your choice.
I prefer the WRM.

#### PiKeeper

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The cubes that seem to be used most by top cfop solvers are the gan 12 maglev and the rs3m 2020, with most other top cubes (including the tornado v3) being used by one or two top solvers. Another thing to keep in mind though is that the gan 12 is not used by top roux solvers while moyu cubes like the wrm 2021 are.

5x5
Budget- Yj Yuchang V2 M (R)
Great- Mgc
Expert- Valk 5, WRM
Valk is smoother, WRM has a more plasticy feel, so its your choice.
I prefer the WRM.
This is hypocritical to your previous statement that we should go off of what top cubers use rather than what intermediate cubers think is best. The vast majority of top 5x5 solvers use the mgc or the valk, so by your logic the wrm should not be on the same level.

#### gsingh

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The cubes that seem to be used most by top cfop solvers are the gan 12 maglev and the rs3m 2020, with most other top cubes (including the tornado v3) being used by one or two top solvers. Another thing to keep in mind though is that the gan 12 is not used by top roux solvers while moyu cubes like the wrm 2021 are.
Name 1 roux solver that is world class in 3x3
Tornado v3 would have been in the list but you cant buy it atm
The elite solvers are not using the rs3m. Patrick uses the wrm, but 1 solver is not enough

This is hypocritical to your previous statement that we should go off of what top cubers use rather than what intermediate cubers think is best. The vast majority of top 5x5 solvers use the mgc or the valk, so by your logic the wrm should not be on the same level.
They do use the valk but matty and tymon have said that the wrm is something that they would consider maining, and they have both mained it in the past year
EDIT: you guys might want to get your popcorn

#### PiKeeper

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Name 1 roux solver that is world class in 3x3
Tornado v3 would have been in the list but you cant buy it atm
The elete solvers are not using the rs3m. Patrick uses the wrm, but 1 solver is not enough
Fahmi is sub-7 afaik.
Patrick, Brennen lin, luke garrett, asher kim-magierek, and others all use the rs3m 2020

#### gsingh

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Fahmi is sub-7 afaik.
Patrick, Brennen lin, luke garrett, asher kim-magierek, and others all use the rs3m 2020
None of them are like, the abselute elite. That would tymon, matty, max. Sub- 6 is elite

"Fahmi is sub-7"
At home, maybe. I am too. But if you are world class it means you are getting these averages in comp. Fahmi's average in comp today was 8.99
ignore typos, im typing this on mobile

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#### PiKeeper

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None of them are like, the abselute elite. That would tymon, matty, max. Sub- 6 is elite
ignore typos, im typing this on mobile
Your logic is ridiculous. If you're trying to see what the top cubers main, restricting your sample size down to three gives absurdly skewed results. Also, Matty is not sub-6.
Fahmi has only competed in two competitions so far and in one of them he was so tired he dropped out of 3x3 finals. The best way to judge him is by his home results since he barely has any comp results.

#### gsingh

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Your logic is ridiculous. If you're trying to see what the top cubers main, restricting your sample size down to three gives absurdly skewed results. Also, Matty is not sub-6.
Because those 3 are the real experts. Patrick and the others are great, but tymon, max matty, and ruihang are on a different level
If you want to see the cubes they tend to use, go to the great category
Also matty is sub 6

#### PiKeeper

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Because those 3 are the real experts. Patrick and the others are great, but tymon, max matty, and ruihang are on a different level
If you want to see the cubes they tend to use, go to the great category
Also matty is sub 6
It seems like you don't understand statistics very well. Especially when dealing with opinion-based issues, a small sample size will give you extremely skewed results. In order to get a better understanding of what the top cubers are using, you need to expand your sample size, perhaps to the top 25 cubers. It would be different if the four cubers you named were absurdly far ahead of everyone else, but there are plenty of cubers who are close enough to be considered in this discussion.
Lastly, I'm not sure where you get the idea that Matty is sub-6. If you look at his comp averages in 2022, only 5/14 averages are sub-6.

#### gsingh

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It seems like you don't understand statistics very well. Especially when dealing with opinion-based issues, a small sample size will give you extremely skewed results. In order to get a better understanding of what the top cubers are using, you need to expand your sample size, perhaps to the top 25 cubers. It would be different if the four cubers you named were absurdly far ahead of everyone else, but there are plenty of cubers who are close enough to be considered in this discussion.
Lastly, I'm not sure where you get the idea that Matty is sub-6. If you look at his comp averages in 2022, only 5/14 averages are sub-6.
Mid 5 and Mid 6 are not close at this level
Matty is inconsistent in comps, as you have seen. He gets great averages sometimes but sometimes they are a bit worse, like mid 6. Its not fair to look at his average in the entirerty of 2022, its been 8 months. Look at his recent ones. He has a lot of really great ones. He also only gets to compete once every 1 or 2 months
And as ive said multiple times, expert is what the elite are using, other top cubers are great.
25 ppl are not elite

#### PiKeeper

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Mid 5 and Mid 6 are not close at this level
Matty is inconsistent in comps, as you have seen. He gets great averages sometimes but sometimes they are a bit worse, like mid 6. Its not fair to look at his average in the entirerty of 2022, its been 8 months. Look at his recent ones. He has a lot of really great ones. He also only gets to compete once every 1 or 2 months
And as ive said multiple times, expert is what the elite are using, other top cubers are great.
25 ppl are not elite
To be considered sub-6, you need to be able to get sub-6 averages consistently. And I think you really don't understand what sample sizes are and how important they are. Once you actually learn some basic statistics, come back and talk. Also, don't make stupid claims like "expert is what the elite are using, other top cubers are great" when that's just not how expert and great are defined on the first post.

#### gsingh

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To be considered sub-6, you need to be able to get sub-6 averages consistently. And I think you really don't understand what sample sizes are and how important they are. Once you actually learn some basic statistics, come back and talk. Also, don't make stupid claims like "expert is what the elite are using, other top cubers are great" when that's just not how expert and great are defined on the first post.
We were not talking about the first post, we were talking about my post. And did u even read the post where i said how i would classifly the categorys
You say matty isnt sub 6 cuz he cant consistently get sub 6 averages, but you say fahmi averages 6 when he cant consistently get sub 8 averages
I know what sample sizes are, and im saying it again, im only using the elite in the expert category. For the other world class solvers go to great

#### PiKeeper

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We were not talking about the first post, we were talking about my post. And did u even read the post where i said how i would classifly the categorys
You say matty isnt sub 6 cuz he cant consistently get sub 6 averages, but you say fahmi averages 6 when he cant consistently get sub 8 averages
I know what sample sizes are, and im saying it again, im only using the elite in the expert category. For the other world class solvers go to great
You're hopeless. I'm done arguing with you.

#### qwr

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it doesn't matter really what the top cubers use actually if you're not a top cuber. pretty much all the mainstream 3x3s are good enough for all the top people to use anyway