# Which Cube Should I Get? Up To Date Recommendations

#### qwr

recommended mbld cubes: buy 10 meilongs for like $3 each at ziicube #### fun at the joy ##### Member recommended mbld cubes: buy 10 meilongs for like$3 less than $1 each at ziicube #### povlhp ##### Member I do not like the complete recommendation of the RS3M. Out of box it feels dry and has weak magnets. The Meilong 3M/QiYi MS and YLM are more my style - Stronger magnets, and slightly faster. It has the spring compression, so what ? I am a relative n00b, only started in december, but I fail to see how the RS3M could beat much of what I have. I use regularly: Tengyun V1 (for most solves, low noise), GuHong V4M (light, fast, good magnets, for timed solves), GTS3M (for timed solves). My RS3M I use sometimes. It is smooth, but I can't make it fast enough. It is very heavy with the extra magnets, yet they ar enot as strong as GuHong V4M or GTS3M. I also have the Tengyun V2, and the discounts which are all pretty good (Meilong 3M, QiYi MS, YLM M (in order of preference)). Out of the box the 3 cheap ones are better than the RS3M for me. So what is it that makes the RS3M so great that I can't see ? Last edited: #### povlhp ##### Member It is a shame they don't offer free shipping for very large orders I hear you can negotiate price and shipping with them on large orders, say a box (not sure if that is 48 or 96) of the same cube. Maybe even with a mix of cubes if you put in an order of above$200.
But buying 10 cubes is not a big order for them, except maybe if you buy the current GAN flagship.

qwr

#### qwr

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"very large orders"
if you buy hundreds of stock from a store, you can usually negotiate with them directly.

#### qwr

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I do not like the complete recommendation of the RS3M.
Out of box it feels dry and has weak magnets. The Meilong 3M/QiYi MS and YLM are more my style - Stronger magnets, and slightly faster. It has the spring compression, so what ?

I am a relative n00b, only started in december, but I fail to see how the RS3M could beat much of what I have. I use regularly: Tengyun V1 (for most solves, low noise), GuHong V4M (light, fast, good magnets, for timed solves), GTS3M (for timed solves). My RS3M I use sometimes. It is smooth, but I can't make it fast enough. It is very heavy with the extra magnets, yet they ar enot as strong as GuHong V4M or GTS3M. I also have the Tengyun V2, and the discounts which are all pretty good (Meilong 3M, QiYi MS, YLM M (in order of preference)). Out of the box the 3 cheap ones are better than the RS3M for me.

So what is it that makes the RS3M so great that I can't see ?
I guess most people like it and it's good on a budget, though maybe the meilong m is an even better deal. I thought my rs3m was slow but after about 20 solves it suddenly gets faster for some reason. So try some breakin solves

#### ender9994

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if you buy hundreds of stock from a store, you can usually negotiate with them directly.
Yeah but often only if you buy a lot of the same thing, which I don't usually do. They didn't seem interested in lowering shipping for a large order containing all different things. Can't really blame them since it makes it a much harder order to fill

qwr

#### qwr

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Yeah but often only if you buy a lot of the same thing, which I don't usually do. They didn't seem interested in lowering shipping for a large order containing all different things. Can't really blame them since it makes it a much harder order to fill
ah ok. well ziicube is already the cheapest price for pretty much any cube so can't blame them

#### ender9994

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ah ok. well ziicube is already the cheapest price for pretty much any cube so can't blame them
Yup! hard to be upset with the prices they are offering, even with shipping

qwr

#### qwr

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Yup! hard to be upset with the prices they are offering, even with shipping
yes the shipping costs decrease the more you buy. and the US has no pesky VAT or any import tax like that unless you buy I think \$800?

#### SH03L4C3

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I do not like the complete recommendation of the RS3M.
Out of box it feels dry and has weak magnets. The Meilong 3M/QiYi MS and YLM are more my style - Stronger magnets, and slightly faster. It has the spring compression, so what ?

I am a relative n00b, only started in december, but I fail to see how the RS3M could beat much of what I have. I use regularly: Tengyun V1 (for most solves, low noise), GuHong V4M (light, fast, good magnets, for timed solves), GTS3M (for timed solves). My RS3M I use sometimes. It is smooth, but I can't make it fast enough. It is very heavy with the extra magnets, yet they ar enot as strong as GuHong V4M or GTS3M. I also have the Tengyun V2, and the discounts which are all pretty good (Meilong 3M, QiYi MS, YLM M (in order of preference)). Out of the box the 3 cheap ones are better than the RS3M for me.

So what is it that makes the RS3M so great that I can't see ?
maybe you don't like the feeling that the RS3M provides.
Thats OK, everyone is different.

#### povlhp

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maybe you don't like the feeling that the RS3M provides.
Thats OK, everyone is different.
I am using 4x2mm magnets. N35. I did lube it faster. Still too slow. Just can’t make it like I want it.

#### qwr

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I am using 4x2mm magnets. N35. I did lube it faster. Still too slow. Just can’t make it like I want it.
Did you try loosening the cube a little and doing some breakin solves?

#### povlhp

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Did you try loosening the cube a little and doing some breakin solves?
Did many solves on it. Gave it a lube job. So it is smooth. I think it will get too uncontrollable if I losen it much more. And I have plenty of fast easy turning cubes Tengyun V1, GuHong V4M, GTS3M. I know they are all more expensive.
Checked out the Meilong 3M, QiYi MS and YLM 3M against a stock RS3M.
of these I actually think the Meilong was best out of the box with RS3M a little too lose and a little too much difference between colors. So QiYi MS is better out of the box. YLM was the worst of the 4.

I know all can be setup different, and I rarely find something that I feel is great out of the box. GTS3M and GuHong V4M were the closest.

The advantage of the RS3M is clearly its dual adjustment system for custom setups. But the Meilong 3M is better out of box IMHO

And I can’t really make the RS3M 2020 fast enough for my taste.Others also says it slows down or gets slower or whatever. My custom has the very fast lube on tracks and fast lube on pieces (weight 0.1).

#### SH03L4C3

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Did many solves on it. Gave it a lube job. So it is smooth. I think it will get too uncontrollable if I losen it much more. And I have plenty of fast easy turning cubes Tengyun V1, GuHong V4M, GTS3M. I know they are all more expensive.
Checked out the Meilong 3M, QiYi MS and YLM 3M against a stock RS3M.
of these I actually think the Meilong was best out of the box with RS3M a little too lose and a little too much difference between colors. So QiYi MS is better out of the box. YLM was the worst of the 4.

I know all can be setup different, and I rarely find something that I feel is great out of the box. GTS3M and GuHong V4M were the closest.

The advantage of the RS3M is clearly its dual adjustment system for custom setups. But the Meilong 3M is better out of box IMHO

And I can’t really make the RS3M 2020 fast enough for my taste.Others also says it slows down or gets slower or whatever. My custom has the very fast lube on tracks and fast lube on pieces (weight 0.1).
you must like the snappiness of the magnets. You will like the guhong

#### povlhp

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you must like the snappiness of the magnets. You will like the guhong
Sure. I already have the GuHong - actually 2. But will either bring RS3M or QiYi MS to work as a dedicated cube there, when things open up hopefully in may.

#### qwr

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And I can’t really make the RS3M 2020 fast enough for my taste.Others also says it slows down or gets slower or whatever. My custom has the very fast lube on tracks and fast lube on pieces (weight 0.1).
Sometimes removing lube can also make the puzzle speed up, by virtue of too much lube slowing a puzzle down. My RS3M 2020 follow up post in the screws coming out thread talks about this.