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Which Cube Should I Get? Up To Date Recommendations

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I'll make one based off my 2¢


BEST SPEEDCUBES LIST (Circa June 2nd, 2020)
2x2:
Budget: Qidi, Little Magic
Great: Mr. M, Little Magic M
Expert: MGC, MGC Elite, Gan 251, Valk 2, Tengyun, Weipo WRm

3x3:
Budget: Meilong, Little Magic, MF3RS2
Great: Wuwei, Meilong M, Little Magic M, Thunderclap V3, Qiyi MS, MGC V1, Yuexiao EDM, MF3RS2 M, MF3RS3 M
Expert: MGC Elite, Valk, Valk Power, Valk Elite, GTS2, GTS3, WRm, Tengyun v1, Tengyun v2, Any post 356 air GAN Cube,

4x4:
Budget: Meilong
Great: Little Magic M
Expert: Meilong M, GTS2, WRm, MGC

5x5:
Budget: Meilong
Great: Little Magic M, YuChuang v2
Expert: AoChuang, WRm, Valk 5, MGC

6x6:
Budget: Little Magic
Great: Little Magic M, YuShi v2
Expert: MGC

7x7:
Budget: YuFu v2
Great: AoFu GTS
Expert: Spark, Hays

Square-1:
Budget: Qifa
Great: Yuxin Little Magic
Expert: Yuxin Little Magic M, Volt v2

Megaminx:
Budget: Yuxin Little Magic
Great: X-Man Galaxy v1
Expert: Yuhu v2, Galaxy v2M, Galaxy v2 LM, Gan

Pyraminx:
Budget: Yuxin Little Magic
Great: Yulong v2 M Pyraminx
Expert: Bell, Bell v2, Moyu Magnetic, Huanglong, Mr. M

Skewb:
Budget: MoFang JiaoShi Skewb
Great: Cyclone Boys Skewb
Expert: AoYan, Wingy

Clock:
Budget: Lingao
Great: Rubik's Clock
Expert: PiCubeShop Lingao M

I tried to make this list as objective as possible, if anyone has suggestions let me know.
 
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BEST SPEEDCUBES LIST (Circa June 2nd, 2020)
2x2:
Budget: Qidi, Little Magic
Great: Mr. M, Little Magic M
Expert: MGC, MGC Elite, Gan 251, Valk 2, Tengyun, Weipo WRm

3x3:
Budget: Meilong, Little Magic
Great: Wuwei, Meilong M, Little Magic M, Thunderclap V3, Qiyi MS, MGC V1, Yuexiao EDM
Expert: MGC Elite, Valk, Valk Power, Valk Elite, GTS2, GTS3, WRm, Tengyun v1, Tengyun v2, Any GAN Cube,

4x4:
Budget: Meilong
Great: Little Magic M
Expert: Meilong M, GTS2, WRm, MGC

5x5:
Budget: Meilong
Great: Little Magic M, YuChuang v2
Expert: AoChuang, WRm, Valk 5, MGC

6x6:
Budget: Little Magic
Great: Little Magic M, YuShi v2
Expert: MGC

7x7:
Budget: YuFu v2
Great: AoFu GTS
Expert: Spark, Hays

Square-1:
Budget: Qifa
Great: Yuxin Little Magic
Expert: Yuxin Little Magic M, Volt v2

Megaminx:
Budget: Yuxin Little Magic
Great: X-Man Galaxy v1
Expert: Yuhu v2, Galaxy v2, Galaxy v2 L, Gan

Pyraminx:
Budget: Yuxin Little Magic
Great: Yulong v2 M Pyraminx
Expert: Bell, Bell v2, Moyu Magnetic, Huanglong, Mr. M

Skewb:
Budget: MoFang JiaoShi Skewb
Great: Cyclone Boys Skewb
Expert: AoYan, Wingy

Clock:
Budget: Lingao
Great: Rubik's Clock
Expert: PiCubeShop Lingao M

I tried to make this list as objective as possible, if anyone has suggestions let me know.
Add an M to the Megaminxes.
 

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2x2:
Budget - QiYi MS 2x2
Great - QiYi MS 2x2, YJ MGC 2x2
Expert - YJ MGC Elite 2x2, Valk 2 M, DaYan TengYun 2x2 M

3x3:
Budget - QiYi MS 3x3
Great - YJ MGC Elite 3x3
Expert - Valk 3 Elite, MoYu WeiLong GTS3/WR M, GAN 356 XS, DaYan TengYun v2 M

4x4:
Budget - QiYi MS 4x4
Great - YJ MGC 4x4, MoYu MeiLong 4x4 M
Expert - MoYu AoSu GTS2/WR M

5x5:
Budget - YuXin Cloud
Great - QiYi MS 5x5, YJ MGC 5x5
Expert - Valk 5 M, MoYu AoChuang WR M

6x6:
Budget - YuXin Little Magic 6x6
Great - YuXin Little Magic 6x6 M, YJ YuShi v2 M
Expert - YJ MGC 6x6

7x7:
Budget - YJ YuFu v2 M
Great - YJ YuFu v2 M
Expert - X-Man Spark M

Megaminx:
Budget - YJ YuHu v2 M
Great - X-Man Galaxy v2L M, YJ YuHu v2 M
Expert - X-Man Galaxy v2L M, Gan Megaminx

Skewb:
Budget - Cyclone Boys Magnetic Skewb
Great - X-Man Wingy
Expert - MoYu AoYan M

Pyraminx:
Budget - QiYi MS Pyraminx
Great - ShengShou Mr.M Pyraminx
Expert - X-Man Bell

Square-1:
Budget - YuXin Little Magic Square-1
Great - YuXin Little Magic Square-1 M
Expert - X-Man Volt v2 M
Your "Budget" options are too expensive. The budget is supposed to be the cheapest of the cheap that still performs well. Also, the YLM square-1 is comparable to the volt v2 in performance and belongs in an expert since many people still use it over the volt. There are also more options out there that you did not mention that could appeal to certain people like the older Valk cubes or the RS2/RS3 that are still widely used.
 
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BEST SPEEDCUBES LIST (Circa June 2nd, 2020)
2x2:
Budget: Qidi, Little Magic
Great: Mr. M, Little Magic M
Expert: MGC, MGC Elite, Gan 251, Valk 2, Tengyun, Weipo WRm

3x3:
Budget: Meilong, Little Magic, MF3RS2
Great: Wuwei, Meilong M, Little Magic M, Thunderclap V3, Qiyi MS, MGC V1, Yuexiao EDM, MF3RS2 M, MF3RS3 M
Expert: MGC Elite, Valk, Valk Power, Valk Elite, GTS2, GTS3, WRm, Tengyun v1, Tengyun v2, Any GAN Cube,

4x4:
Budget: Meilong
Great: Little Magic M
Expert: Meilong M, GTS2, WRm, MGC

5x5:
Budget: Meilong
Great: Little Magic M, YuChuang v2
Expert: AoChuang, WRm, Valk 5, MGC

6x6:
Budget: Little Magic
Great: Little Magic M, YuShi v2
Expert: MGC

7x7:
Budget: YuFu v2
Great: AoFu GTS
Expert: Spark, Hays

Square-1:
Budget: Qifa
Great: Yuxin Little Magic
Expert: Yuxin Little Magic M, Volt v2

Megaminx:
Budget: Yuxin Little Magic
Great: X-Man Galaxy v1
Expert: Yuhu v2, Galaxy v2M, Galaxy v2 LM, Gan

Pyraminx:
Budget: Yuxin Little Magic
Great: Yulong v2 M Pyraminx
Expert: Bell, Bell v2, Moyu Magnetic, Huanglong, Mr. M

Skewb:
Budget: MoFang JiaoShi Skewb
Great: Cyclone Boys Skewb
Expert: AoYan, Wingy

Clock:
Budget: Lingao
Great: Rubik's Clock
Expert: PiCubeShop Lingao M

I tried to make this list as objective as possible, if anyone has suggestions let me know.
WCA Speed Cubes Recommendation List

2x2:
Budget - MoYu MeiLong 2x2, YuXin Little Magic 2x2
Great - QiYi MS 2x2, YJ MGC 2x2
Expert - YJ MGC Elite 2x2, Valk 2 M, DaYan TengYun 2x2 M

3x3:
Budget - QiYi MS 3x3
Great - YJ MGC Elite 3x3
Expert - Valk 3 Elite, MoYu WeiLong GTS3/WR M, GAN 356 XS, DaYan TengYun v2 M

4x4:
Budget - MoYu MeiLong 4x4, QiYi MS 4x4
Great - YJ MGC 4x4, MoYu MeiLong 4x4 M
Expert - MoYu AoSu GTS2/WR M

5x5:
Budget - YuXin Cloud
Great - QiYi MS 5x5, YJ MGC 5x5
Expert - Valk 5 M, MoYu AoChuang WR M

6x6:
Budget - YuXin Little Magic 6x6
Great - YuXin Little Magic 6x6 M, YJ YuShi v2 M
Expert - YJ MGC 6x6

7x7:
Budget - YJ YuFu v2 M
Great - YJ YuFu v2 M
Expert - X-Man Spark M

Megaminx:
Budget - YuXin Little Magic Megaminx
Great - YJ YuHu v2 M
Expert - X-Man Galaxy v2L M, Gan Megaminx

Skewb:
Budget - Cyclone Boys Magnetic Skewb
Great - X-Man Wingy
Expert - MoYu AoYan M

Pyraminx:
Budget - QiYi MS Pyraminx
Great - ShengShou Mr.M Pyraminx
Expert - X-Man Bell

Square-1:
Budget - YuXin Little Magic Square-1
Great - YuXin Little Magic Square-1 M
Expert - X-Man Volt v2 M
Your "Budget" options are too expensive. The budget is supposed to be the cheapest of the cheap that still performs well. Also, the YLM square-1 is comparable to the volt v2 in performance and belongs in an expert since many people still use it over the volt. There are also more options out there that you did not mention that could appeal to certain people like the older Valk cubes or the RS2/RS3 that are still widely used.
You have got a point. I'll take your advice. "budget" puzzles on my list have been changed to cheaper puzzles.
Ylm square 1 M is comparable to the Volt v1, but the Volt v2 is by far the best square 1.
I agree that great 3x3 is the most controversial part of the list. There are many high quality 3x3s in between $10~$30. The only difference is the feel which comes down to personal preferences. You have listed nearly 10 cubes in great 3x3. I think we may try to narrow down it to 2-4 cubes.
 

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I think we may try to narrow down it to 2-4 cubes.
There is not really a reason that there should be only a few cubes in one category, Im trying to make an accurate list, not a small one

Ylm square 1 M is comparable to the Volt v1, but the Volt v2 is by far the best square 1.
No, and big no. The YLM became pretty much everyone's main as soon as it came out aside from some people who hated the feel. After modding the YLM is easily comparable to the Volt v2 and I would wholeheartedly say that the volt v2 is in fact not objectively better than the YLM. The performance is neck and neck after modding the YLM and it's not even that hard to do. Not to mention the YLM does not break at all. The volt v1 has obvious issues with edges breaking but a friend bent an edge on the v2 so the structural integrity is not guaranteed with the volt but it is with the YLM since I have not heard of any pieces breaking, even after modding. The only reason that I main the volt v2 is because it tolerates my turning better, but I might try the A mod and see how that works for me.

BTW here is a tutorial on how to mod a ylm square-1 with the B mod just to show how easy it is to do with basically any knife or similar blade.

 
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No, and big no. The YLM became pretty much everyone's main as soon as it came out aside from some people who hated the feel. After modding the YLM is easily comparable to the Volt v2 and I would wholeheartedly say that the volt v2 is in fact not objectively better than the YLM. The performance is neck and neck after modding the YLM and it's not even that hard to do. Not to mention the YLM does not break at all. The volt v1 has obvious issues with edges breaking but a friend bent an edge on the v2 so the structural integrity is not guaranteed with the volt but it is with the YLM since I have not heard of any pieces breaking, even after modding. The only reason that I main the volt v2 is because it tolerates my turning better, but I might try the A mod and see how that works for me.

BTW here is a tutorial on how to mod a ylm square-1 with the B mod just to show how easy it is to do with basically any knife or similar blade.

I main a b-modded ylm m. The upgrade from volt v1 to v2 is not only fixing the breaking edges, but also the speed.
 
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There is not really a reason that there should be only a few cubes in one category, Im trying to make an accurate list, not a small one
I don't think so. For instance, you included the valk m, valk power m and gts2 m in 3x3 expert. These are older cubes, but they are still popular. These cubes are classic, but qiyi and moyu have upgraded them to the valk elite and wrm respectively, with better corner cutting and more customization. Customization alow latest flagships to suit more cubers. Honestly, I don't think the ancestors of wrm and valk elite should be listed in expert 3x3.
 

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I don't think so. For instance, you included the valk m, valk power m and gts2 m in 3x3 expert. These are older cubes, but they are still popular. These cubes are classic, but qiyi and moyu have upgraded them to the valk elite and wrm respectively, with better corner cutting and more customization. Customization alow latest flagships to suit more cubers. Honestly, I don't think the ancestors of wrm and valk elite should be listed in expert 3x3.
But they are still used by experts? Just because a cube is older and new ones came out does not mean that it's automatically worse then its predecessor, and therefore still belongs in the list because some cubers might be able to find it for cheaper or may like the cube better than the newer versions. Also cornercutting improvements dont really matter anymore since all of the cubes in expert and great for 3x3 cornercut everywhere that you need them to in a regular solve.
 
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BEST SPEEDCUBES LIST (Circa June 2nd, 2020)
2x2:
Budget: Qidi, Little Magic
Great: Mr. M, Little Magic M
Expert: MGC, MGC Elite, Gan 251, Valk 2, Tengyun, Weipo WRm

3x3:
Budget: Meilong, Little Magic, MF3RS2
Great: Wuwei, Meilong M, Little Magic M, Thunderclap V3, Qiyi MS, MGC V1, Yuexiao EDM, MF3RS2 M, MF3RS3 M
Expert: MGC Elite, Valk, Valk Power, Valk Elite, GTS2, GTS3, WRm, Tengyun v1, Tengyun v2, Any post 356 air GAN Cube,

4x4:
Budget: Meilong
Great: Little Magic M
Expert: Meilong M, GTS2, WRm, MGC

5x5:
Budget: Meilong
Great: Little Magic M, YuChuang v2
Expert: AoChuang, WRm, Valk 5, MGC

6x6:
Budget: Little Magic
Great: Little Magic M, YuShi v2
Expert: MGC

7x7:
Budget: YuFu v2
Great: AoFu GTS
Expert: Spark, Hays

Square-1:
Budget: Qifa
Great: Yuxin Little Magic
Expert: Yuxin Little Magic M, Volt v2

Megaminx:
Budget: Yuxin Little Magic
Great: X-Man Galaxy v1
Expert: Yuhu v2, Galaxy v2M, Galaxy v2 LM, Gan

Pyraminx:
Budget: Yuxin Little Magic
Great: Yulong v2 M Pyraminx
Expert: Bell, Bell v2, Moyu Magnetic, Huanglong, Mr. M

Skewb:
Budget: MoFang JiaoShi Skewb
Great: Cyclone Boys Skewb
Expert: AoYan, Wingy

Clock:
Budget: Lingao
Great: Rubik's Clock
Expert: PiCubeShop Lingao M

I tried to make this list as objective as possible, if anyone has suggestions let me know.
2x2: qiyi ms 2x2 is better than the mr.m and the ylm 2x2 m. Some cubers found that the qiyi ms 2x2 is better than the mgc.
3x3: yulong v2m, yuxin kylin v2m are missing in great. Yuxin huanglong m is missing in expert. Some cubers main the Huang Long M, while some found the ylm M better than the Huang Long M. In your logic, as some experts main the ylm M and the qiyi ms, both ylm M and qiyi ms should be moved to expert.
4x4: qiyi ms better and cheaper than the ylm m that it should be in great.
5x5: yuxin cloud is better than meilong that it should be in budget 5x5. Great should be qiyi ms as it is better than the ylm and the yuchuang v2. Aochuang wrm is repeated in expert.
Square 1: why qifa? It is same price as the ylm. Great should be ylm m. It is only $10. What makes the non-magnetic ylm better?
Pyraminx: budget and great should be qiyi ms. Ylm is too fast and flexible. So uncontrollable that it is not suitable for beginners. Qiyi ms ia same price as the yulong v2.
Megaminx: yuhu v2 should be in great instead of galaxy v1. It is cheaper, and it is magnetic.
Skewb: isn't qiyi qicheng better than mfjs?
 

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2x2: qiyi ms 2x2 is better than the mr.m and the ylm 2x2 m. Some cubers found that the qiyi ms 2x2 is better than the mgc.
I have not tried the MS
3x3: yulong v2m, yuxin kylin v2m are missing in great. Yuxin huanglong m is missing in expert. Some cubers main the Huang Long M, while some found
the ylm M better than the Huang Long M. In your logic, as some experts main the ylm M and the qiyi ms, both ylm M and qiyi ms should be moved to expert.
The other cubes in great are better and the huanglong has other hardware issues that keep me from recommending it like the magnets falling out. What experts main the YLM M and MS? (Im looking for at least top 100 in 3x3 avg)

4x4: qiyi ms better and cheaper than the ylm m that it should be in great.
again, I have not tried it but I have heard that its kind of locky. I DO have the YLM and I think its a very good puzzle for the price, once I try the MS cubes I will add them if I think they are good

5x5: yuxin cloud is better than meilong that it should be in budget 5x5. Great should be qiyi ms as it is better than the ylm and the yuchuang v2. Aochuang wrm is repeated in expert.
The meilong is cheaper and since the cubes in budget should be dirt cheap, I put the meilong instead since thats the cheapest cube I have tried that I know is good. Also the Aochuang and Aochuang WRm are different puzzles, when I said aochuang I was referring to the v1
Square 1: why qifa? It is same price as the ylm. Great should be ylm m. It is only $10. What makes the non-magnetic ylm better?
Pyraminx: budget and great should be qiyi ms. Ylm is too fast and flexible. So uncontrollable that it is not suitable for beginners. Qiyi ms ia same price as the yulong v2.
Again, I have not tried the ms line but when I do I will add them if I think they belong here. Also, why do you put the same cube in multiple categories? I also have the YLM pyraminx and I find it quite controllable and very suitable for beginners due to overall good performance and a low price.

Skewb: isn't qiyi qicheng better than mfjs?
Nope, the mfjs has a better speed, a more suitable ball bearing strength, and overall a better flow.

Megaminx: yuhu v2 should be in great instead of galaxy v1. It is cheaper, and it is magnetic.
Just because its cheaper does not mean its worse. It has expert-level performance and therefore belongs in expert, especially since its better than the v1 so it belongs in the grade above.
 
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Nope, the mfjs has a better speed, a more suitable ball bearing strength, and overall a better flow.
What about meilong skewb?
Just because its cheaper does not mean its worse. It has expert-level performance and therefore belongs in expert, especially since its better than the v1 so it belongs in the grade above.
As yuhu v2 is cheaper than galaxy v1, why do you have galaxy v1 in great given that the cheaper yuhu v2 is in expert?
 
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Because better cubes belong in the higher teirs
Budget - Dirt Cheap Cubes only
Great - Pretty good and you won't have to sell your house
Expert - The best cube on the market
According to the definition on great cubes and expert cubes by @pjk, it is weird to have a great cube being more expensive than a expert cube, isn't it? Although in reality, we often have cheaper cubes performing better than more expensive cubes. However, I don't think the cube being more expensive and worse should be mentioned on the list.
 
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