# When can one call oneself a "sub 20 cuber"?

#### Meisen

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I've been wondering as to when i can brag to my friends and relatives (and anyone else around) about me being a sub 20 cuber.

When can you say you have broken that boundry?

A single sub 20 solve?

Avg of 5, 12 or maybe even 100?

A streak of X sub 20 solves in a row?

When 50% or more of your solves are sub 20?

You can see my times in my signature. The only info missing there is sub 20 solves in a row, which i believe is only 4.

I do not consider myself a sub 20 cuber yet, but my personal opinion is that when i get an average of 100 below 20 i'm quite close, if not there.

What are your thoughts and opinions on the matter?

#### Edward

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When you consistently get sub 20 averages. Ive gotten ALOT of sub 20 singles, but I'm an in no way a sub 20 cuber.

#### 4Chan

I think you're a sub-20 cuber.

My opinion is an avg of 12.

#### StachuK1992

##### statue
I call myself sub23 having an avg of 100 sub23, so I think personally, an average of 100 sub 'n' within the past month, otherwise, one that hasn't practiced in months and got a sub20 avg of 100 a long time ago could say they're sub 20, when they are really like 30s now.

#### Meisen

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I think you're a sub-20 cuber.

My opinion is an avg of 12.
By that definition i'm also a sub 19 cuber, but that just feels like a lie to me... I get far to many sup 21 avg of 12 to let that one good average dictate my "sub x" cuber status

#### Jani

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when you get sub 20 avg (no matter if it is avg of 5/12/100)in a row and consistently

#### Meisen

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@ Stachuk1992

An average of 100 within the last month qualifies you as an sub "n" cuber?

I like that definition

For people that don't bother doing long averages i guess consistency of solves below "n" would qualifiy.

#### Cyrus C.

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50%, or AO100. Even though AO12's are pretty accurate, I'm more of a 22 second cuber rather than a 20 second cuber, as my AO12 would dictate.

#### ianini

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I think a sub-20 cuber is every time he/she solves a decent cube, it will always be under 20 seconds.

#### sz35

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My Best avg of 12 using ZB is a 19.12 but I'm still not a sub-20 ZB cuber because I have a lot of 20-22 solves and avgs.

#### Novriil

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I think not the PB avg of 12 is sub-20 (for example PB ao12: 19.99 -.-)

But then when you get many averages sub-20 and YOU think that these are okay times.. not some WOWOWOWOWO times but.. you feel... comfortable with them? Bad explaining but..

I think I'm a sub-20 cuber.. And I have a sub-15 PB ao5

Mostly I get times like 17-20 so.. sub-20 I guess.

#### EmersonHerrmann

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When you can get sub-20 with ease. You don't have to try at all.

#### Chaos2011

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I think it should be when you get a sub-20 avg at a competition, because then u are officially ranked sub-20. That's just my opinion.

#### StachuK1992

##### statue
I think it should be when you get a sub-20 avg at a competition, because then u are officially ranked sub-20. That's just my opinion.
no. Some people can't attend competitions.

#### foxdi

##### Member
i guess its when you have consistency on sub"n" solves ? ..

but i still do get solves like 22.xx or 21.xx when my normal average is 14-16s:fp

#### ISuckAtCubing

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you can call youself sub-20 is when you get above 20 sec, you would get pissed

#### PatrickT

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I didn't consider myself sub-20 until I had an official sub-20 competition average, but I had done sub-20 averages at home before.

#### JLarsen

I'd say when at least 70% of your averages are sub 20, then you are sub 20. I don't call myself sub 15, as nice as that would be. My PR avg 12 is 14.44

I think not the PB avg of 12 is sub-20 (for example PB ao12: 19.99 -.-)

But then when you get many averages sub-20 and YOU think that these are okay times.. not some WOWOWOWOWO times but.. you feel... comfortable with them? Bad explaining but..

I think I'm a sub-20 cuber.. And I have a sub-15 PB ao5

Mostly I get times like 17-20 so.. sub-20 I guess.
Check my signature

But I wouldn't call myself sub20 yet...

#### Cyrus C.

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I think not the PB avg of 12 is sub-20 (for example PB ao12: 19.99 -.-)

But then when you get many averages sub-20 and YOU think that these are okay times.. not some WOWOWOWOWO times but.. you feel... comfortable with them? Bad explaining but..

I think I'm a sub-20 cuber.. And I have a sub-15 PB ao5

Mostly I get times like 17-20 so.. sub-20 I guess.
Check my signature

But I wouldn't call myself sub20 yet...
I think that's his point. It's sub-20, when being sub-20 doesn't sound so great to you.