# What Speedsolving Method do YOU Use (Updated Version)

## What Speedsolving Method do YOU Use (Updated Version)

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#### voidrx

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This is an updated version of @WarriorCatCuber 's method poll.

This is for 2h solving only

#### voidrx

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L5E is an algorithm step/set of algs.

Why no FreeFop?

(Also make it so we can see who voted for what)
Freefop isn't a method

#### DuckubingCuber347

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Freefop isn't a method
CFOP isn't a method either, you just combine two steps from normal LBL.

Nautilus isn't a method either, you just fill in DB so the edges are easier.

Mehta isn't a method either, you just solve a 1x2x3 before belt.

CFCE isn't a method either, it's just Roux but with a CFOP approach.

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#### Swagrid

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CFOP isn't a method either, you just combine two steps in normal LBL.

Nautilus isn't a method either, you just fill in DB so the edges are easier.

Mehta isn't a method either, you just solve a 1x2x3 before belt.

CFCE isn't a method either, it's just Roux but with a CFOP approach.
This should be fun

#### BenChristman1

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CFOP isn't a method either, you just combine two steps in normal LBL.

Nautilus isn't a method either, you just fill in DB so the edges are easier.

Mehta isn't a method either, you just solve a 1x2x3 before belt.

CFCE isn't a method either, it's just Roux but with a CFOP approach.
Don’t forget that ZZ is really just CFOP, but you do extra moves at the beginning for basically no reason, therefore ZZ is just LBL.

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#### PapaSmurf

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Currently, ZZ is the most used method. Let's keep it that way.

#### voidrx

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CFOP isn't a method either, you just combine two steps from normal LBL.

Nautilus isn't a method either, you just fill in DB so the edges are easier.

Mehta isn't a method either, you just solve a 1x2x3 before belt.

CFCE isn't a method either, it's just Roux but with a CFOP approach.
CFOP is a method. Just because you say that you just combine two steps from normal LBL doesn't make it not a method.

Nautilus is a method. Just because you solve the DB edge early doesn't not make it a method.

Mehta is a method. You can't say something isn't a method because it solves something before something else.

CFCE is a variant of CFOP

Now, lemme explain why FreeFop isn't a method.
When people say they use freefop they say that they build F2L how ever they want use blockbuilding and then they do LL. What type of blockbuilding? Do they build a 222 then extend it to a 223 and then finish the right block? Do they solve a 1x2x3 , then solve another 1x2x3 on the right, then solve the DF/DB edges? When you say you do FreeFop, it's way too generic for it to be truly a method. Other methods have structure.
Roux:
Solve FB then solve the SB, then solve the corners then solve the Last 6 edges.
Freefop says, build F2L however you want and any way you build it is FreeFop, no matter whether you do worse Petrus or worse roux.

#### Mastermind2368

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Currently, ZZ is the most used method. Let's keep it that way.
Honestly am shocked at this. Not really been on here in a few years but did something change and people started using ZZ more? Or is this just a small sample size error?

#### ruffleduck

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Honestly am shocked at this. Not really been on here in a few years but did something change and people started using ZZ more? Or is this just a small sample size error?
ZMS

#### DuckubingCuber347

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CFOP is a method. Just because you say that you just combine two steps from normal LBL doesn't make it not a method.

Nautilus is a method. Just because you solve the DB edge early doesn't not make it a method.

Mehta is a method. You can't say something isn't a method because it solves something before something else.

CFCE is a variant of CFOP
CFOP is literally a LBL method... That wasn't a joke LBL is a simplification of CFOP meaning CFOP is LBL with two steps combined.

So if I use LBL but make an xcross then do all the other edges independently I now have my own method? Nautilus is different from Roux because of how the shell is built. If I do FB>SB>DB edge>NCLL L5E then it is basically Roux.

Yes I can, I just said it. So if I do SB>FB>CMLL>LSE than I have a unique method?

No, it's a LBL variant, just like CFOP.
Now, let me explain why FreeFOP isn't a method.
When people say they use FreeFOP they say that they build F2L how ever they want use blockbuilding and then they do LL. What type of blockbuilding? Do they build a 222 then extend it to a 223 and then finish the right block? Do they solve a 1x2x3 , then solve another 1x2x3 on the right, then solve the DF/DB edges? When you say you do FreeFop, it's way too generic for it to be truly a method. Other methods have structure.
Roux:
Solve FB then solve the SB, then solve the corners then solve the Last 6 edges.
Freefop says, build F2L however you want and any way you build it is FreeFop, no matter whether you do worse Petrus or worse roux.
Do you even know what FreeFOP is? How can you tell me it's not a method when you don't even know what it is? What you're describing is lazyCFOP which is clearly a bad, inefficient method method.

FreeFOP is when you blockbuild a 2x3x3 or F2L-1. You're basically combining cross and F2L. And you already said yourself:
Just because you say that you just combine two steps from normal LBL doesn't make it not a method.
Therefor you disproved yourself and called FreeFOP a method.

Edit: I'll just pick LBL

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#### PetrusQuber

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L5E is an algorithm step/set of algs.

Why no FreeFop?

(Also make it so we can see who voted for what)
can’t do that for privacy reasons under an already voted poll

People with more unique methods are more likely to gravitate towards forums for help and advice (since there may be less resources for them), so we’re definitely seeing skewed results.
Also random stuff for small samples

#### LBr

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CFOP is a method. Just because you say that you just combine two steps from normal LBL doesn't make it not a method.

Nautilus is a method. Just because you solve the DB edge early doesn't not make it a method.

Mehta is a method. You can't say something isn't a method because it solves something before something else.

CFCE is a variant of CFOP

Now, lemme explain why FreeFop isn't a method.
When people say they use freefop they say that they build F2L how ever they want use blockbuilding and then they do LL. What type of blockbuilding? Do they build a 222 then extend it to a 223 and then finish the right block? Do they solve a 1x2x3 , then solve another 1x2x3 on the right, then solve the DF/DB edges? When you say you do FreeFop, it's way too generic for it to be truly a method. Other methods have structure.
Roux:
Solve FB then solve the SB, then solve the corners then solve the Last 6 edges.
Freefop says, build F2L however you want and any way you build it is FreeFop, no matter whether you do worse Petrus or worse roux.
if cfce is a variant of cfop then nautilus l5e is a variant of roux

#### voidrx

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Honestly am shocked at this. Not really been on here in a few years but did something change and people started using ZZ more? Or is this just a small sample size error?
Small sample size error

#### voidrx

##### Member
if cfce is a variant of cfop then nautilus l5e is a variant of roux
No it is not.
CFCE steps are:
1. Cross
2. F2L
3. CLL
4. ELL
Different LL method. The bif thing of CFOP is F2L. CFCE F2l exactly the same as CFOP.

Nautilus-L5E steps are:
1. FB
2. NSB
3. dFR Pair
4. NCLL
5. L5E
There are more than one thing that is different from Roux.
1. Roux ends in LSE, which can be done algorithmically, but it is thousands algs so no one is gonna do that. Nautilus L5E ends in L5E. L5E is algorithmic, has a feasible number of algorithms, (245) it is one-lookable. Also, LSE has the chance of the dots case and the hard to recognize 3-cycles.
2. SB is different from NSB. SB is solving dR after FB, ignoring the DBM edge completely. NSB solves the DBM edge and the dbR square.