#### GAN 356 X

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I'm really liking 4x4 recently and wanted to get more into bigger cubes. What is a good budget option for 5x5? My current one is a ShengShou mini, and it sucks, but it's the only one I own. I've heard the Yuxin cloud is good, but what about the new black Kirin or YLM? What about the YJ magnetic one? let me know!
Mgc for sure it's amazing and will last you ages. If you can't afford that try the Ylm

#### Tabe

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I'm really liking 4x4 recently and wanted to get more into bigger cubes. What is a good budget option for 5x5? My current one is a ShengShou mini, and it sucks, but it's the only one I own. I've heard the Yuxin cloud is good, but what about the new black Kirin or YLM? What about the YJ magnetic one? let me know!
Budget: Yuxin Little Magic

Flagship: Valk 5M or MGC.

#### WarriorCatCuber

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I'm really liking 4x4 recently and wanted to get more into bigger cubes. What is a good budget option for 5x5? My current one is a ShengShou mini, and it sucks, but it's the only one I own. I've heard the Yuxin cloud is good, but what about the new black Kirin or YLM? What about the YJ magnetic one? let me know!
The YLM is extremely good, and the valk is the best.

#### MJS Cubing

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Ok. I think I'm going to get the MGC or little magic. Does anyone who owns or has tried both of them give me a comparison?

#### Cubingcubecuber

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Ok. I think I'm going to get the MGC or little magic. Does anyone who owns or has tried both of them give me a comparison?
I will when I have time

#### WarriorCatCuber

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Ok. I think I'm going to get the MGC or little magic. Does anyone who owns or has tried both of them give me a comparison?
MGC is better from what I've heard, but is more expensive.

#### GAN 356 X

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MGC is better from what I've heard, but is more expensive.
Tried the YLM at speed cube today, the MGC is way better. Maybe with setup the YLM could perform better idk

#### Tabe

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Ok. I think I'm going to get the MGC or little magic. Does anyone who owns or has tried both of them give me a comparison?
The MGC is faster and smoother. It's very close to the Valk overall.

#### Reeno

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What's the best 4x4? If you have a different favourite pls just comment and say what it is.

#### PetrusQuber

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Valk 4 M
Aosu GTS2M
Aosu WRM

Just from review experience, not actual ownership.

#### WarriorCatCuber

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What's the best 4x4? If you have a different favourite pls just comment and say what it is.
Valk 4 is smooth, and a little scrunchy
WR has good cornercutting, and pops less.

#### brododragon

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Random note, there's a typo in the Rubik's Magic tag. It says 'rubiks magic\' instead of 'rubiks magic'.

I realized this after reading every single tag. I have no life.

#### ProStar

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Random note, there's a typo in the Rubik's Magic tag. It says 'rubiks magic\' instead of 'rubiks magic'.

I realized this after reading every single tag. I have no life.
A disgrace to this beautiful forum.

#### ElenaL

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Hi to all,
I hope you are all well?
Does exist a cube with same feeling movement like Giiker i3SE.
I like the click sound by turning.
I would be cool if I found a cube without electronic and same click feeling and click sound.
Kind Regards,
Elena

\\EDIT: Sorry, I have seen in Aliexpress, I can buy a Giiker without Bluetooth function. I have buy one and I will see. Thank you anyway!

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#### ProStar

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I'm currently using a Qiyi Thunderclap Mini 4x4(without much setup cause I suck at that) and averaging sub-2:00. I keep telling myself getting a better cube won't help my time much, but I keep thinking of how Tingman got 30 seconds worse when switching to a budget cube So will my times actually change that much if I were to get a better cube?

#### BenChristman1

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I'm currently using a Qiyi Thunderclap Mini 4x4(without much setup cause I suck at that) and averaging sub-2:00. I keep telling myself getting a better cube won't help my time much, but I keep thinking of how Tingman got 30 seconds worse when switching to a budget cube So will my times actually change that much if I were to get a better cube?
I used to use a Qiyi Qiyuan S for 4x4, and I averaged, like you, about 2:00. For Christmas, I got a Valk 4 M (strong), and now I average about 1:15-1:20. So, in my opinion, I think that it does make a difference.

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I want a better cube so yeah.

#### mbaraty123

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I like the mgc elite

#### x_Max

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What 3x3 do you have right now?

Considerations:
- Tengyun M ($1 over if you can do it) https://www.thecubicle.com/products/dayan-tengyun-m-3x3?_pos=2&_sid=40fd039e7&_ss=r - GTS2M ($1 over if you can do it) https://www.thecubicle.com/collections/3x3-speed-cubes/products/moyu-weilong-gts2-m
- Yuexiao EDM https://www.thecubicle.com/collections/3x3-speed-cubes/products/guoguan-yuexiao-edm
- YJ MGC Elite https://www.thecubicle.com/collections/3x3-speed-cubes/products/yj-mgc3-elite
- Set-up Mf3rs3m https://www.thecubicle.com/collections/3x3-speed-cubes/products/cubicle-mf3rs3-m
- Set-up Meilong M https://www.thecubicle.com/collections/3x3-speed-cubes/products/pro-shop-meilong-m
- Set-up Little Magic M https://www.thecubicle.com/products/cubicle-little-magic-m?_pos=5&_sid=15e3e5752&_ss=r
- Mf3rs3m https://www.thecubicle.com/products/mfjs-mf3rs3-m?_pos=1&_sid=483f729de&_ss=r
- Guhong v3 m https://www.thecubicle.com/collections/3x3-speed-cubes/products/dayan-guhong-v3-m

If you're looking for a cube that you need quickly or do not understand the below, just get the YJ MGC Elite.

Save money:
- Mf3rs3m https://www.thecubicle.com/products/mfjs-mf3rs3-m?_pos=1&_sid=483f729de&_ss=r
- Guhong v3 m https://www.thecubicle.com/collections/3x3-speed-cubes/products/dayan-guhong-v3-m

Best feels:
- Tengyun M ($1 over if you can do it) - Set-up Mf3rs3m https://www.thecubicle.com/collections/3x3-speed-cubes/products/cubicle-mf3rs3-m - Set-up Meilong M https://www.thecubicle.com/collections/3x3-speed-cubes/products/pro-shop-meilong-m - Set-up Little Magic M https://www.thecubicle.com/products/cubicle-little-magic-m?_pos=5&_sid=15e3e5752&_ss=r - Guhong v3 m https://www.thecubicle.com/collections/3x3-speed-cubes/products/dayan-guhong-v3-m Customization: - Yuexiao EDM https://www.thecubicle.com/collections/3x3-speed-cubes/products/guoguan-yuexiao-edm - YJ MGC Elite https://www.thecubicle.com/collections/3x3-speed-cubes/products/yj-mgc3-elite Corner cutting: - Tengyun M ($1 over if you can do it) https://www.thecubicle.com/products/dayan-tengyun-m-3x3?_pos=2&_sid=40fd039e7&_ss=r
- Guhong v3 m https://www.thecubicle.com/collections/3x3-speed-cubes/products/dayan-guhong-v3-m

Stability:
- GTS2M ($1 over if you can do it) https://www.thecubicle.com/collections/3x3-speed-cubes/products/moyu-weilong-gts2-m - YJ MGC Elite https://www.thecubicle.com/collections/3x3-speed-cubes/products/yj-mgc3-elite - Set-up Meilong M https://www.thecubicle.com/collections/3x3-speed-cubes/products/pro-shop-meilong-m - Set-up Little Magic M https://www.thecubicle.com/products/cubicle-little-magic-m?_pos=5&_sid=15e3e5752&_ss=r Speed (not necessarily the fastest - which cubes have the most appropriate speed): - GTS2M ($1 over if you can do it) https://www.thecubicle.com/collections/3x3-speed-cubes/products/moyu-weilong-gts2-m
- Set-up Meilong M https://www.thecubicle.com/collections/3x3-speed-cubes/products/pro-shop-meilong-m
- Set-up Little Magic M https://www.thecubicle.com/products/cubicle-little-magic-m?_pos=5&_sid=15e3e5752&_ss=r

#### GAN 356 X

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MGC elite or wuwei imo. I like the feeling of the Wuwei more but the MGC has more customisation

Tengyun also feels AMAZING and sounds AMAZING. Its a bit unstable though, and a little fast

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