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Uncommon Method Competition | Submissions Open ! 160$ in Prizes !

Do you want to compete in the competition


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OreKehStrah

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As someone really interested in methods, I think this is a good idea.

However, I think the better approach would be to allow any method other than the common ones like CFOP, Roux, ZZ, Petrus. Some other potential bans could include ZB and CFCE due to how similar to CFOP/ZZ they are.

This way the competition isn't limited to a handful of methods, nor allows the common ones.

You would also need to decide whether or not multiple method useage is allowed or not. Does each average have to be method pure, or would you allow multiple methods to be used based on the scramble? Or have a multiple methods option as well?
 

Silky

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As someone really interested in methods, I think this is a good idea.

However, I think the better approach would be to allow any method other than the common ones like CFOP, Roux, ZZ, Petrus. Some other potential bans could include ZB and CFCE due to how similar to CFOP/ZZ they are.

This way the competition isn't limited to a handful of methods, nor allows the common ones.

You would also need to decide whether or not multiple method useage is allowed or not. Does each average have to be method pure, or would you allow multiple methods to be used based on the scramble? Or have a multiple methods option as well?
So yes the Big 4 would be banned. My original proposal was to have 4 to 5 different methods to compete in with average of 5 and 12. I don't really understand how what you're idea would work. Would it just be who could get fastest average of 5/12 with and non-common method. I'd want full-step/ intermediate full step ( like using Waterman but not need to use all 100 algs ). And yes the average would need to be same method.

The idea behind OP is that with only having 4-5 methods when people are competing you're helping to develop the method.

If you can do any method then you're limited to the skill of the user. But with many people doing the same method you get to see how fast that method can be pushed.
 
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OreKehStrah

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So yes the Big 4 would be banned. My original proposal was to have 4 to 5 different methods to compete in with average of 5 and 12. I don't really understand how what you're idea would work. Would it just be who could get fastest average of 5/12 with and non-common method. I'd want full-step/ intermediate full step ( like using Waterman but not need to use all 100 algs ). And yes the average would need to be same method.

The idea behind OP is that with only having 4-5 methods when people are competing you're helping to develop the method.

If you can do any method then you're limited to the skill of the user. But with many people doing the same method you get to see how fast that method can be pushed.
It needs to be up to the competitors on what non-standard method they use. Otherwise the comp isn't a celebration of other methods so much as a bit of entertainment showing the handful of methods you want to see. Some other interesting methods to see that you never even mention are the ones Devagio proposed recently: Mehta and YruRU for example.
 

Silky

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It needs to be up to the competitors on what non-standard method they use. Otherwise the comp isn't a celebration of other methods so much as a bit of entertainment showing the handful of methods you want to see. Some other interesting methods to see that you never even mention are the ones Devagio proposed recently: Mehta and YruRU for example.
Well that why we could include those methods by consensus. The last thing I was thinking was that with choosing any method wouldn't lead to learning new methods outside their comfort zone. Like I'm a Roux solver and I could just learn PCMS. But if choosing you own method and having the winners be the best 3 best avg of 5/12 that could work.

Would banned methods just be the big 4/varients and ZB?
 

SoundBalloon

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Very interesting, count me in!

Other methods I would be interested in seeing include:

1- "classical" choices
- Heise (and no cheating with ZBLL :p)
- Any blind method
- Hawaiian Kociemba
- LEOR

2- weird choices that would lots of fun
- PDQF
- HSC
- 2GB
 

Silky

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So update to the competition rules.. I'm changing it such that you can use any method outside of the Big 4. If I can get 15-20 yeses on the poll I'll put in 60$ in cubicle gift cards for 1st ( 15$ ), 2nd ( 10$ ), 3rd ( 5$ ) place averages of 5/12, respectively ( limited to 1 competitor ). Submission are now open and will be on a rolling basis ( update your submissions as you get faster times until the cutoff ). The cutoff for submission will be February 28th.

A note on methods, you cannot use variation of the Big 4 ( example: CFCE, FreeFOP, Petrus W, ZZ (c), etc. ). Any questions feel free to ask !

can I use PCMS?
Yes you can.
 

Silky

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Wait there are prizes? Suddenly intrigued. Can I use ZBroux?

What does one actually have have to submit? How do you do verification?
Feel free to use ZBRoux ! You'd need to submit a video with an average of 5 and or 12 using ZBRoux. If you can include scrambles that be amazing. If you're feeling really generous you can provide reconstructions !

I would compete using Mehta.
Feel free ! I believe @Devagio will be competing with that method !

Regarding the prizes, per my last reply, I want to have a good number of competitors submitting ( 15 minimum to include prizes ) so please please answer 'Yes' in the poll !
 

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this is a great thread to celebrate uncommon methods and acknowledge them, the Big 4 isn't all there is to speedsolving methods!
Unfortunately I cannot compete because I do not know any methods that are uncommon.
 

Tao Yu

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Feel free to use ZBRoux ! You'd need to submit a video with an average of 5 and or 12 using ZBRoux. If you can include scrambles that be amazing. If you're feeling really generous you can provide reconstructions !
Nice. I like this because pretty much nobody else can use ZBroux hahaha. Is ZBroux really not considered a variant of Roux?

I guess I can probably get a 9.5 avg5 and 10.5 avg12. Do I have any competition? I literally can't think of anyone who's at this speed for other non-big4 variant methods.
 
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