Titanium Core

[Dan the Beginner]

Hi, what you think about this? I heard so much about how fantastic the Ferrocore V2 is and I wonder what a titanium core could do. In theory, titanium being stronger and also lighter than steel may bring even more improvements. For example, the space saving mentioned by Phil in his video introducing the V2 can be even greater, if the part can be made thinner (but still as strong or stronger).

I asked Google about the effect to the existing V2 and got the following answer:

Google Search

Of course titanium can be used on other cubes to improve their properties. One thought I had - the use of titanium can avoid any complications or interference by these steel parts in the magnetic fields or forces inside the cube or around the magnetised ball core. Having 6 steel rods inside there cube must mean some effect to the magnetic attractions, say between the rotating corner magnets and the magnets in the core, affecting smoothness. Another thought is that the user of titanium can make the improvements of the Ferrocore available to heavier cubes, cubes with thicker walls and more solid construction, without making them too heavy. Your thoughts?

 

[Jared Burkhart]

Hi, what you think about this? I heard so much about how fantastic the Ferrocore V2 is and I wonder what a titanium core could do. In theory, titanium being stronger and also lighter than steel may bring even more improvements. For example, the space saving mentioned by Phil in his video introducing the V2 can be even greater, if the part can be made thinner (but still as strong or stronger).

I asked Google about the effect to the existing V2 and got the following answer:

Google Search

Of course titanium can be used on other cubes to improve their properties. One thought I had - the use of titanium can avoid any complications or interference by these steel parts in the magnetic fields or forces inside the cube or around the magnetised ball core. Having 6 steel rods inside there cube must mean some effect to the magnetic attractions, say between the rotating corner magnets and the magnets in the core, affecting smoothness. Another thought is that the user of titanium can make the improvements of the Ferrocore available to heavier cubes, cubes with thicker walls and more solid construction, without making them too heavy. Your thoughts?

I think it would work really well in theory but would be crazy expensive for it to sell well enough for companies to consider.
I think it would be an insane at home mod though! You have a good idea!

 

[Dan the Beginner]

I think it would work really well in theory but would be crazy expensive for it to sell well enough for companies to consider.
I think it would be an insane at home mod though! You have a good idea!

It should not cost all that much more, IMO, for a maker like Moyu, if the steel screws are replaced by titanium ones. I'm sure just the word Titanium inn the ads can help raise the selling price and recover the difference in costs.

 

[-Cube Kid-]

Well, carbon fibre has many of the same benefits.... I wonder which is better?

 

[Jared Burkhart]

I have learned of something called Kevlar as being super light reinforcement. That might help also

 

[thecubicwizard]

i think it’s unnecessary

 

[-Cube Kid-]

I have learned of something called Kevlar as being super light reinforcement. That might help also

Oh, yeah, that too, but that would be so insanely expensive.

 

[Jared Burkhart]

Oh, yeah, that too, but that would be so insanely expensive.

Why don't we just make the cube out of Vibranium?

 

[Dan the Beginner]

I raised this Titanium matter because I was just wondering about this Ferrocore, and how iron or steel can make a speedcube so great. Many of my old cubes also have Fe in them, e.g. this Picube edition of the WRM 9.

 

[qwr]

Cores are already pretty thin. I believe only a few cube models with production or design issues have had breakage problems. Maybe it would help with square-1 core stripping?

 

[1x1 wr holder!]

As long as it doesn't skyrocket the prices of cubes I think titanium is a cool addition. it would probably eliminate core breaking, and I like the idea of more space. An issue I can think of is issues with steel screws and titanium threads but im sure a coating can fix that. I think titanium and advanced polymers are quite possibly a new direction for cubes.

 

[cranberryjuice]

I think it would be nice as an upgrade option if you want a heavier cube for the feel of it. The problem is that if you attempt to make the titanium too thin, although it would hold structural integrity, machining it could have problems with accidentally breaking it.

 

[Jared Burkhart]

I think it would be nice as an upgrade option if you want a heavier cube for the feel of it. The problem is that if you attempt to make the titanium too thin, although it would hold structural integrity, machining it could have problems with accidentally breaking it.

Do not forget the Kelvar
Lightweight and a strong reinforcement
If it can be applied in a practical way I think titanium reinforced by Kevlar is awesome

 

[cranberryjuice]

Do not forget the Kelvar
Lightweight and a strong reinforcement
If it can be applied in a practical way I think titanium reinforced by Kevlar is awesome

That would be even more expensive though.

 

[Michael Wimberly]

Do not forget the Kelvar
Lightweight and a strong reinforcement
If it can be applied in a practical way I think titanium reinforced by Kevlar is awesome

The thing about Kevlar is that it is much weaker when it's compressed, which I would imagine could be an issue in cube cores because they're being compressed from springs/maglev.

 

[cranberryjuice]

The thing about Kevlar is that it is much weaker when it's compressed, which I would imagine could be an issue in cube cores because they're being compressed from springs/maglev.

Yeah, kevlar works so well for body armor because it's just a bunch of layers joined together in a shape, and it only compresses in a very short amount of time so the strength hasn't decreased yet. For a small application like this it would be impractical.

 

[-Cube Kid-]

So would Carbon fiber be better, though?

 

[cranberryjuice]

So would Carbon fiber be better, though?

Depends. Too much twisting is bad for it, not to mention that over time it will leave little flakes inside the cube. Also, it's not great for young cubers because if you aren't careful it will give you splinters.

 

[-Cube Kid-]

Depends. Too much twisting is bad for it, not to mention that over time it will leave little flakes inside the cube. Also, it's not great for young cubers because if you aren't careful it will give you splinters.

Oh, then that new Moyu cube is out lol. But it is lighter, right?

 

[Caleb Valenzuela]

not great for young cubers

they should just toughen up then /j