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[Help Thread] The "Square-1 Help / Alg Sharing" thread

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So I'm a square 1 noob (avg like 45-50) and I have been doing cubeshape by grouping all the edges. Today I learned what scallop-kite is, and practiced a little bit trying to do it intuitively, however very inefficiently. Does efficiency just come with practice? And can someone give an example of getting scallop kite on this scramble? Thanks!
(4, 0)/(2, 5)/(-5, 1)/(2, -4)/(-3, 0)/(-2, -3)/(-3, -3)/(1, 0)/(0, -4)/(-4, 0)/(2, 0)/(-2, -2)/
 
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So I'm a square 1 noob (avg like 45-50) and I have been doing cubeshape by grouping all the edges. Today I learned what scallop-kite is, and practiced a little bit trying to do it intuitively, however very inefficiently. Does efficiency just come with practice? And can someone give an example of getting scallop kite on this scramble? Thanks!
(4, 0)/(2, 5)/(-5, 1)/(2, -4)/(-3, 0)/(-2, -3)/(-3, -3)/(1, 0)/(0, -4)/(-4, 0)/(2, 0)/(-2, -2)/
Yes efficiency comes with time, but for some cases it’a a lot easier to just learn the case like the scramble you showed: in this case, it’s much easier to change the bottom into shield shield or solve it into scallop scallop and then solve it
 

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So I'm a square 1 noob (avg like 45-50) and I have been doing cubeshape by grouping all the edges. Today I learned what scallop-kite is, and practiced a little bit trying to do it intuitively, however very inefficiently. Does efficiency just come with practice? And can someone give an example of getting scallop kite on this scramble? Thanks!
(4, 0)/(2, 5)/(-5, 1)/(2, -4)/(-3, 0)/(-2, -3)/(-3, -3)/(1, 0)/(0, -4)/(-4, 0)/(2, 0)/(-2, -2)/
As Neil points out, in many cases the "scallop/kite" way is not the best.

The shape for the provided scamble you could do: 2,2/-2,0/2,0/-1,0/-3,-3/ (shield/barrel).
 
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You probably know about
1,-3 / 2,-1 / 0,4 / -3,0 / 0,-1 / 2,-3 / 0,4 / 0,4 / -2,2 / 0,1 / 3,0 /

generating some gives me these results
4,-3/2,-1/0,4/-3,0/0,-1/-4,3/4,0/0,4/2,-2/0,1/0,3/
4,-3/-4,5/4,0/-3,0/-1,0/2,-3/4,0/0,4/2,-2/0,1/0,3/
-2,3/5,-4/4,0/0,-3/-1,0/-3,2/4,0/4,0/-4,4/0,1/0,3/
-2,3/-1,2/0,4/0,-3/0,-1/3,-4/4,0/4,0/-4,4/0,1/0,3/ Think that's my favourite
/-3,0/0,-1/2,-2/0,-4/0,-4/4,-3/1,0/3,0/-4,0/4,-5/2,-3 if it wasn't for the 2,-2, this one would be quite good
/-3,0/0,-1/2,-2/0,-4/0,-4/-2,3/0,1/3,0/0,-4/-2,1/-4,-3 like really good
/-3,0/0,-1/-4,4/-4,0/0,-4/3,-2/0,1/0,3/0,-4/1,-2/-4,3 regripless but a bit weird
/-3,0/0,-1/-4,4/-4,0/0,-4/-3,4/1,0/0,3/-4,0/-5,4/-4,3 bad, but I converted it in less than 1:30 minutes

tell me, if you like one
 
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What are the equivalents of sub-20, 15, and 10 on square-1? Are they the same as 3x3?
This is the 667th reply to this thread apparently :p
Bump, also what are the biggest things to focus on when trying to become sub-30? And when is a good time to learn a better cubeshape than the one taught in beginner videos, should I learn it now or can I wait longer?
 
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Bump, also what are the biggest things to focus on when trying to become sub-30? And when is a good time to learn a better cubeshape than the one taught in beginner videos, should I learn it now or can I wait longer?
Advanced Cubeshape is very well suited for starting at the 40s. Know your CPs, EOs and get CO in two seconds or less.

My strategy was:
Be stuck at 50s
do 50+ Solves a day
be sub 25 after two weeks
 
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My square one is being weird. I am trying to follow one of the cube shape algs, and it doesn't match what it says it should. When I get about halfway into the alg, it stops matching the images. I a new to sq 1 so some help would be appreciated. The circled case is where my sq 1 doesent match. the case on the top is the one that does not match. download.jpg
 
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As someone who just got into squan recently (avg sub 1), I would like to ask a few questions:
1.Is inconstancy due to recog time and cs?
2. How I improve cs? (maining the star first method)
3. Should I go for cp/ep or double parity?(edit: it's double pll)
 
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1. Inconsistency is mostly CS, EP and Parity(Parity isn't as much of a problem when starting out but but it becomes increasingly annoying). If you use Lin or R'nS it's F2B instead of EP.

2. If you want to keep using this method, learn all the other Star cases. Otherwise, go for Scallop-Kite. The tutorial I used was the video from Brandon Lin. Follow how to do the easier cases and carefully study the Scallop-Kite method as you will be using this method for most cases before CSP

3. Explain what you mean. Double Parity means no Parity.
 
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