# The FMC thread

#### 3clock7

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Hey,
what do you think is the best way to solve corners after DR.
I tried hardly but i can´t do this intuitively. Is ther a way to do this or maybe a full PDF with all cases?

#### Silky

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Does anyone know when the first official optimal FMC solution was achieved in comp?

#### hyn

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Hey,
what do you think is the best way to solve corners after DR.
I tried hardly but i can´t do this intuitively. Is ther a way to do this or maybe a full PDF with all cases?
There's this, but I haven't really understood it yet
and the pdf referenced above : https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lYQnaF1VuiR7EDfi1DUcIJM0FYC2B3mo/view

Does anybody know how to do the edges for HTR apart from U-perms?

#### alyzsnyzs

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Hey all,

Last night was pretty crazy for me, and if any of you check the fewest moves facebook group, you'll have likely seen why. Out of a random scramble I managed to beat my FMC PB by 4 moves and set what I believe is a new UWR single.

R' U' F L2 D2 R2 F2 U L2 D F2 R2 D' B2 F L2 F2 L D' R2 D2 L2 F2 R' U' F
(B' R F U' L') //EO (5/5)
(F) //DR-4E4C (1/6)
L2 D F' //DR (3/9)
U' B2 U' R2 D U //3C (6/15)

L2 D F' @ U' B2 U' R2 D U F' L U F' R' B
@ = F2 U' B2 U F2 U' B2 U (8-6)

L2 D F U' B2 [U F2 U2 R2 D U] F' L U F' R' B
[] = D' F2 D2 R2 //LMAO

final: L2 D F U' B2 D' F2 D2 R2 F' L U F' R' B

Very very crazy solve, and I'm super proud, if not still blown away.

#### cuberswoop

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Hey all,

Last night was pretty crazy for me, and if any of you check the fewest moves facebook group, you'll have likely seen why. Out of a random scramble I managed to beat my FMC PB by 4 moves and set what I believe is a new UWR single.

R' U' F L2 D2 R2 F2 U L2 D F2 R2 D' B2 F L2 F2 L D' R2 D2 L2 F2 R' U' F
(B' R F U' L') //EO (5/5)
(F) //DR-4E4C (1/6)
L2 D F' //DR (3/9)
U' B2 U' R2 D U //3C (6/15)

L2 D F' @ U' B2 U' R2 D U F' L U F' R' B
@ = F2 U' B2 U F2 U' B2 U (8-6)

L2 D F U' B2 [U F2 U2 R2 D U] F' L U F' R' B
[] = D' F2 D2 R2 //LMAO

final: L2 D F U' B2 D' F2 D2 R2 F' L U F' R' B

Very very crazy solve, and I'm super proud, if not still blown away.
Pog

Now do it in comp.

#### DuckubingCuber347

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Hey all,

Last night was pretty crazy for me, and if any of you check the fewest moves facebook group, you'll have likely seen why. Out of a random scramble I managed to beat my FMC PB by 4 moves and set what I believe is a new UWR single.

R' U' F L2 D2 R2 F2 U L2 D F2 R2 D' B2 F L2 F2 L D' R2 D2 L2 F2 R' U' F
(B' R F U' L') //EO (5/5)
(F) //DR-4E4C (1/6)
L2 D F' //DR (3/9)
U' B2 U' R2 D U //3C (6/15)

L2 D F' @ U' B2 U' R2 D U F' L U F' R' B
@ = F2 U' B2 U F2 U' B2 U (8-6)

L2 D F U' B2 [U F2 U2 R2 D U] F' L U F' R' B
[] = D' F2 D2 R2 //LMAO

final: L2 D F U' B2 D' F2 D2 R2 F' L U F' R' B

Very very crazy solve, and I'm super proud, if not still blown away.
This is indeed UWR, congratulations on being the first person to beat the sub-16 barrier! We now know it's humanly possible to find these insane solutions.

#### Cale S

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solutions from FMC on a Madison Terrace 2022
20, 21, 28 = 23.00

1) R' U' F L' D2 L' R2 B2 R' F2 U2 L2 B' D B2 L' D2 B' D' U2 B R2 B' R' U' F
L B U F' // EO
(F2 U B2 R') // DR (8) 4q
(U') U B2 D R2 D // HTR (14)
R2 L2 B2 U2 R2 B2 // Finish (20)

Solution: L B U F' U B2 D R2 D R2 L2 B2 U2 R2 B2 U R B2 U' F2 (20)

- optimal after EO
- found the solution about 40 minutes in
- scramble is 18 optimal

2) R' U' F U2 F2 D' L2 U' R2 B2 U' L2 D2 B U B F L U R2 F U2 F R' U' F
F' D' R B' // EO
L' U // DR-4e4c x2
D2 R' B2 L' D' // DR (11)
R F2 @ L' // 14 to 2e2e + slice with an 8-3 :0

@ = F2 R B2 D2 F2 L B2 U2 // 19 to slice

after DR:
R2^ B2 D2 F2 L^ B2 @ U2 L'
^ = w
@ = M // 21 to solved

Solution: F' D' R B' L' U D2 R' B2 L' D' L2 F2 U2 B2 R U2 R L' U2 L' (21)

- very silly finish
- this attempt made a 20.00 official rolling mo3 (19, 20, 21)
- I found the solution in about 22 minutes, so I had time to check almost all the EOs I had, but I didn't find anything else decent
- scramble is 18 optimal

3) R' U' F R F' R2 U' B2 L2 R2 U' R2 D2 R D' R' D U2 F' U' L' D2 R' U' F
(R') U F' L' // EO
(B' L2 F R2 F' D) // DR (10) 3q
R2 B' U2 F' U2 B2 @ L2 B' L2 F2 U2 L2 // garbage 3e skeleton

@ = D2 B' L2 U2 R2 F' U2 L2 // garbage 8-2 (somehow this is optimal)

Solution: U F' L' R2 B' U2 F' U2 B2 D2 B' L2 U2 R2 F' U2 B' L2 F2 U2 L2 D' F R2 F' L2 B R (28)

I only needed 22 on this attempt to tie WR, so not finding anything decent was frustrating, especially since the scramble had lots of EO options. I definitely used too much time finding EOs (I spent the first 17 minutes writing about 70), and ended up not having time to check most of them.

optimal for the DR is 23, but it doesn't seem like something I could find

this was the first DR I wrote down, but since it's 12 moves and didn't look that great, I assumed I would find something better and disregarded it. It turns out there's a very findable 22 after switching to inverse:
(F' R U2 F' L') // EO
(B) D2 R2 D' R2 U' F' // DR (12)
(D' B2 D' B2 R2 D') // HTR (18)
(B2 U2 B2 L2 F2) // Finish (22)
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the scramble is 18 optimal
25, 23, 22 = 23.33

1) R' U' F R2 U R2 D' L' U' B' R2 U2 L2 B2 U' D2 B2 D L U' R D R' U' F
(U2 L R' U F') // EO
(L R' D' F2 D L') // DR (11) 2q
L2 F2 R2 D' B2 U // HTR (17)
R2 B2 R2 U' D' B2 U D // Finish (25)

Solution: L2 F2 R2 D' B2 U R2 B2 R2 U' D' B2 U D L D' F2 D R L' F U R L' U2 (25)

premade square tripped me up lol
I spent too long on block starts and had no idea what I was doing for the rest of the attempt

optimal for my DR is 24, but it doesn't seem like I could have found it

optimal for the scramble is 18 and is somewhat reasonable:
R2 U' B2 R' B' // EO
(U' L' U R D2 R D) // DR (11)
(U2 R F2 L U2 F2) // Finish (18)

2) R' U' F D' F2 U' L' U B D' F U' R2 F2 D2 F2 D2 R' D2 F2 B2 L F R' U' F
L2 U' F' R // EO
(U F') B2 U B2 U' D2 F' L2 @ F' // DR (14) lol
U' R2 D2 F2 L2 U // 20 to 2e2e

@ = L2 F2 R2 F2 L2 B2 // 6-3

Solution: L2 U' F' R B2 U B2 U' D2 F R2 F2 L2 B2 F' U' R2 D2 F2 L2 U F U' (23)

kind of dumb but whatever

scramble is 18 optimal

3) R' U' F R B2 U' L2 D U B2 D' B2 R B' F L' B2 R F2 D L2 F' R' U' F
(D2 R2 D R') // EO
(D' B' U' B2 U) // DR (9) 4q
(F) R2 B' @ L2 D2 B' D2 B // HTR (17)
L2 D2 // 19 to 2e2e

@ = B2 R2 B2 L2 F2 L2 // 6-3

Solution: R2 B R2 B2 L2 F2 D2 B' D2 B L2 D2 F' U' B2 U B D R D' R2 D2 (22)

I noticed at the start of the attempt that U2 F B makes 2 squares, and you can make a 2x2x3 in 6 with U2 D' (D'), but I stopped myself from looking at block starts after 6 minutes

F U2 B U B was a nice EO, there are tons of DR variations with good corners that I looked at
21 is possible from this one:
F U2 B U B // EO
(U R2 D2 R) U R' B2 R' // DR (13)
B2 D' B2 R2 B2 D' R2 U // Finish (21)

I found the 9 move DR with like 8 minutes left, but I managed to find the solution in just a few minutes
optimal for the DR is 21, but I'm satisfied with my solution

scramble is 17 optimal
22, 24, 25 = 23.67

1) R' U' F U R F2 L2 U' D' L2 F' U L D2 R F2 U2 L2 F2 L' D2 R2 B2 R' U' F
(R' U' F') // EO
(U') U2 B2 U2 L2 R D // DR (10) 1q
L B2 D2 R' U2 D2 L' // HTR (17)
R2 D2 R2 B2 D2 // Finish (22)

Solution: U2 B2 U2 L2 R D L B2 D2 R' U2 D2 L' R2 D2 R2 B2 D2 U F U R (22)

- optimal after DR
- scramble is 17 optimal
- found the solution 30 minutes in
- I checked about 58 EOs and this was the only decent DR I had

2) R' U' F D2 L' U' F' U2 R2 D2 F' R2 F L D' F' R2 D2 F U F' R' U' F
(L R' B R') // EO
(F) F2 D2 B2 U B2 U' B // DR (12)
F2 U ^ R2 U2 R2 F2 @ D2 ^ // 19 to 4c + slice

@ = F2 R2 U' L2 D B2 R2 D' L2 U // 4c alg with big cancel
^ = E2 // solve slice

Solution: F2 D2 B2 U B2 U' B F2 U' D2 L2 U R2 D F2 L2 D' R2 U' F' R B' R L' (24)

optimal after DR

wrote about 60 EOs and I think I checked most, but I didn't find anything good

scramble is 18 optimal

3) R' U' F D' L' B2 L U2 B2 U2 L2 D2 R' B D' L B' R' U' B' R' F D R' U' F
(F' L2 D' B) // EO
F2 L (L2 D R2 B2 U D' R) // DR (13)
(D' F2 U R2 L2 D2 L2 D L2 F2 U') // 24 to slice

after DR:
U F2 L2 D' L2 D2 L2 R2 [U' F2 D]
[] = D' L2 U' D2 // 25 to solved

Solution: F2 L U F2 L2 D' L2 D2 L2 R2 D' L2 U' D2 R' D U' B2 R2 D' L2 B' D L2 F (25)

annoying scramble :/ Even though the EO is 6/6/6, I only found about 33 EOs and after checking all of them, I didn't find any DRs under 12 moves.

with less than 2 minutes left I found 22 to slice on a different DR:
R2 F (R U F') // EO
(U D' R' L2 D L D') // DR (12) 2q
(L' U2 R') // HTR-2e
(U2 D2 R F2 D2 F2 R) // 22 to slice

and I tried to quickly insert it, but I couldn't even find a bad combination of slice insertions that worked. 24 (optimal for the DR) is possible by making 3 moves wide and inserting a slice that adds 2.

optimal for the scramble is 18
didn't get any good means but I beat all rolling average WRs:
20.00 mo3
21.67 avg5
22.10 avg12
22.52 avg25
23.64 avg50
26.43 avg100 (lol)

#### irontwig

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I definitely used too much time finding EOs (I spent the first 17 minutes writing about 70), and ended up not having time to check most of them.
- I checked about 58 EOs and this was the only decent DR I had

wrote about 60 EOs and I think I checked most, but I didn't find anything good
Yikes, that's some serious workflow.

#### abunickabhi

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Nice Hebrew explanation of FMC concepts by Ben Baron.
I understand a bit of Hebrew so this video was useful for me.