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Tempest 3V1 Development Thread (Hi)

Who Should Tempest Work With on Mass Manufacturing?

  • MoYu

    Votes: 1 5.6%
  • QiYi

    Votes: 10 55.6%
  • GAN

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Yuxin

    Votes: 1 5.6%
  • FangShi

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • ShengShou

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Dayan

    Votes: 4 22.2%
  • Independent Company

    Votes: 2 11.1%

  • Total voters
    18
  • Poll closed .

Sion

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Ugh, another moyu cube ...


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Yeah. their last great cube was the hualong, and they should've just stopped after the yuexiao.

Honestly, moyu released six 3x3s this year, and they are all nothing compared to the Valk ( except the chufeng, which actually looks like effort went into designing).
 

Dash Lambda

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Yeah. Their last great cube was the Hualong, and they should've just stopped after the Yuexiao.

Honestly, Moyu released six 3x3s this year, and they are all nothing compared to the Valk (except the Chufeng, which actually looks like effort went into designing).
Hey, I like the GTS. I don't know about all their other cubes, but that one's good.
I still need to get a Valk, I really want to get excited about it but the traditional piece assembly with that huge hole under the corners just sort of fills me with "meh."
I know that doesn't indicate performance, it's just that I really like caps and seeing all those seams, it just sort'a looks cheap.
Still getting one, though.
 

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Hey, I like the GTS. I don't know about all their other cubes, but that one's good.
I still need to get a Valk, I really want to get excited about it but the traditional piece assembly with that huge hole under the corners just sort of fills me with "meh."
I know that doesn't indicate performance, it's just that I really like caps and seeing all those seams, it just sort'a looks cheap.
Still getting one, though.
The gts is nothing to the valk. I got mine today. I can guarantee you that the valk will replace your gts. the gts feels like a rushed design when you compare it to the valk. I'm confused with the holes too, but I believe it's another way to comber the problend of catching on the centers.
 

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Hey, I like the GTS. I don't know about all their other cubes, but that one's good.
I still need to get a Valk, I really want to get excited about it but the traditional piece assembly with that huge hole under the corners just sort of fills me with "meh."
I know that doesn't indicate performance, it's just that I really like caps and seeing all those seams, it just sort'a looks cheap.
Still getting one, though.
Its not that the GTS sucks, its that MoYu releases a lot of sub-par cubes and play the customer's money way too relentlessly.

For example, in the Moyu brand the Aolong GT and Hualong are definitely forgettable cubes. Other sub brands that came out this year such as mohuan shousu, mojue and senhuan which all created cubes that definitely couldn't compare to the market yet used the hype of the Moyu branding to sell. The peak of the scrutiny was when Moyu announced they were doing a GTS V2, and it literally was the same cube with the dual-adjustment kit. After the scrutiny they immediately rescinded that idea and released the adjustment kit alone.
When you looked at the big cubes, their big cubes were so expensive it was frankly ridiculous. the aosu is 26, the huachuang was 38, aoshi 39 and aofu 49. Lets be honest here: Yuxin saved the market and the customers by releasing its 5x5 at only 17 dollars and their first 4x4 (which was considered with the cyclone boys as one of the first 4x4s to at least be in the same stratosphere as the aosu) for 14 dollars.

In my opinion, the cubes that Moyu should've released starting from the Aolong V2 are: Aolong V2, Tanglong, Weilong GTS. For sub brands, the Meiying and yuexiao.

Sorry for my ranting and #grammar, but i just have some serious issues with Moyu because of all the transparent attempt at monopolizing. I understand its a business, but it doesn't mean you can't bite off more than you can chew. I think its pretty evident in the market today: aside from the Weilong GTS, moyu is starting to become irrelevant.

Companies like Qiyi and Yuxin? take my money bro as long as you keep making these bomb puzzles, that took careful consideration shown by the amount of time between release, that are at a fairer price.
 

Dash Lambda

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The GTS is nothing to the Valk. I got mine today. I can guarantee you that the Valk will replace your GTS. The GTS feels like a rushed design when you compare it to the Valk. I'm confused with the holes too, but I believe it's another way to counter the problem of catching on the centers.
Oh, you misunderstand, I love the GTS, but the cube the Valk would have to beat is the Air.

Its not that the GTS sucks, its that MoYu releases a lot of sub-par cubes and play the customer's money way too relentlessly.

For example, in the Moyu brand the Aolong GT and Hualong are definitely forgettable cubes. Other sub brands that came out this year such as mohuan shousu, mojue and senhuan which all created cubes that definitely couldn't compare to the market yet used the hype of the Moyu branding to sell. The peak of the scrutiny was when Moyu announced they were doing a GTS V2, and it literally was the same cube with the dual-adjustment kit. After the scrutiny they immediately rescinded that idea and released the adjustment kit alone.
When you looked at the big cubes, their big cubes were so expensive it was frankly ridiculous. the aosu is 26, the huachuang was 38, aoshi 39 and aofu 49. Lets be honest here: Yuxin saved the market and the customers by releasing its 5x5 at only 17 dollars and their first 4x4 (which was considered with the cyclone boys as one of the first 4x4s to at least be in the same stratosphere as the aosu) for 14 dollars.

In my opinion, the cubes that Moyu should've released starting from the Aolong V2 are: Aolong V2, Tanglong, Weilong GTS. For sub brands, the Meiying and yuexiao.

Sorry for my ranting and #grammar, but i just have some serious issues with Moyu because of all the transparent attempt at monopolizing. I understand its a business, but it doesn't mean you can't bite off more than you can chew. I think its pretty evident in the market today: aside from the Weilong GTS, moyu is starting to become irrelevant.

Companies like Qiyi and Yuxin? take my money bro as long as you keep making these bomb puzzles, that took careful consideration shown by the amount of time between release, that are at a fairer price.
I remember them saying that all the sub-brands were because they had a lot of designers who basically wanted a little practice. To me, it just looks more like they're stumbling around trying to figure out what to do than anything else.

Their big cubes are expensive as hell, though. I'm glad we're starting to see some real competition there.
 
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I think you guys are insane I hate the gts valk air and to a lesser extent yuexiao
My main is the m3 and yueying...
 
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The gts is nothing to the valk. I got mine today. I can guarantee you that the valk will replace your gts. the gts feels like a rushed design when you compare it to the valk. I'm confused with the holes too, but I believe it's another way to comber the problend of catching on the centers.
I own both, and vastly prefer the GTS to the Valk. Different feelings for different people, I guess.
 

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Is the cube developed enough to give an accurate description of the feel or other attributes?
Andrew hasn't given me a prototype so I can't exactly tell you. the prototype we printed shold feel diffeet though. nonetheless, the current printed prototype felt sort of gans v1- valk stuff going on.
 

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GOOD NEWS EVERYONE!

Andrew has confirmed to me there is a high likelihood that a very early prototype will be sent to me in the following weeks!
 

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this question may have already been answered, but how big is this going to be? There is a serious dearth of 57mm cubes on the market, and I'd really like to see a 58mm, too. I've heard that I should do D2 with pinky - ring, but I simply can't do that on my 56 mm thunderclap, so I do it with ring - middle. My hands are large, but not exceptionally so.
 

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We are planning on 55.5, but maybe a 58mm version could be put int consideration, like a standard version and a macro version
 

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