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[Help Thread] Skewb Discussion and Help

Sa967St

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Solving first "layer":
6, 5, 6, 3, 4, 7, 4, 4, 7, 5, 7, 5, 7, 7, (2), 6, 5, 6, 4, 6, 4, (7), 6, 5 => 5.40 average of 24

B U' R' U' R L' B' U' R' B' L R' B' R B' - 6 (green)
L R' U' B L R' L R U R' B' U R U L' - 5 (red)
R U' B U' L' B R B U B' R' U' L' U L' - 6 (green)
B L' U R' B' L' R' B' U L R B' R' L R - 3 (white)
B U L' B' R' L' B U' R' U L R L' R' B - 4 (green)
U L R' L' B U L B' R' B' L R' U' B R - 7 (green)
U' L' B L' R B' L U' R' L B U' B' U' B - 4 (white)
U B' L' R' U' B' R B R' L' U' B' U B L - 4 (green)
R L B' R' B' L' U' R L' U R U' R' L' U - 7 (green)
L' B' R' B U' B' L R B' L' R B L' R' U' - 5 (white)
U R' B U' L U' B' U L' R' B L' B R L - 7 (orange)
L' B' U' R' U L R B L U' B' U' B R' U' - 5 (orange)
B L B L B U R B' U R B' L B L' B' - 7 (white)
L B R' L' U L' U' L' U' B L U' B' R L - 7 (orange)
R U' B R B' R' B L B L B L' U' L U - 2 (blue)
U' R' B' U' B U' R' U R' L' R B' R' B' L - 6 (red)
R U' L B' R U L U' B' U R U' B' L B - 5 (green)
L' B U' L U R L' R B R U' B U' B R - 6 (green)
U R' U R B' U' L U' B' U L' U' R' L R - 4 (green)
L' B R B U' R U R' U' R' B' U' R L R - 6 (white)
U' L B' L U' L' U' B R B' R B U R' L' - 4 (white)
U' L U L U' L R' U' B' L B' R U' B U - 7 (blue)
B' U' R' U B R' B U L' U B R L B' R' - 6 (blue)
B L' B L R U' R B' R' L' R U' L' R L - 5 (blue)
 

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Session Average: 5.29
σ: 2.23
Best Time: 1.00
Worst Time: 10.00
Individual Times:
3.00, 6.00, 4.00, 4.00, 7.00, 6.00, 5.00, 7.00, (10.00), 9.00, 4.00, 7.00, (3.00), 3.00, 7.00, 5.00, 6.00, 3.00, 5.00, 6.00, 3.00, 5.00, 2.00, 7.00, 6.00
iitimer skewb srambles are too long so it a bit if hand sramble with about 10 moves from a generated one so they are more likely to be lucky.
 

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Layer Movecount Average of 25: 6.14
1. 7 R L' U' B' L' U' B L' U R L U' B R U'
2. 4 U' B L' B' L' B L' R L B' L' U B L' R'
3. (8) R' L R U' R B L' U B U' B' L U' L R'
4. 5 R U' R' U L' U' R' L U' R' B' U' B' R' L'
5. 8 U B' R B' U R U' L' B' L U' R' U' L' U
6. 4 L U' B' U R' B R U' R' B' U' L U' R L'
7. (2) L B' L' U R' U B' U R B L U R U' B'
8. 7 R' U' B U' R' B' L' U L' R U B R L' U
9. 7 U L' U' R' U' B U' R B' L' R' U' L' R B
10. 5 L R' U L B L B' L' B' U' L U' B L R
11. 7 R B' L' U' L' B L' B' L B U' R' L' B L'
12. 4 B U' B' R U' R L R' U' R' L' U' R' B' R'
13. (8) B U L U' R L R B U' R' U B U B L'
14. 4 L R B' R U L' B L' B' L B L B L B
15. (3) R' U' R B U B L U' L R L' R B' U R
16. 7 U B' R L U' L' R L B L' B' L U' L' U
17. 8 R B' R' L R B' L' R U L' B U' B R' B'
18. 6 U' R' B R U R L' R U B R' B L R U'
19. 4 L' U' R' U' B L' R B U B' L' R' U L B
20. 8 U R' U L R' L' U' B L U' B U L B' L
21. 7 R' U' L B' U' B' L' B R' L' U' B U' B' L'
22. 5 B' U B L R B' R B' U' R' L' R' U L' U'
23. 7 R' L U' B U B R B' U R' B' U B L R
24. 7 L U' L R B U L B' L U' L R' B' R L'
25. 8 B' U R' B L R U' L R L' U L' R U L'

Solving a layer feels so weird now o_o

Just did a 50-solve session. Sub-6, anyone? ;)

Average of 50: 5.77
1. 4.98 L R' U' B' R L U' L B U R' B' U B' R L' B' U' R L' R' U L' B R'
2. 3.31 U B R' B' R' L' B L U B' L' R' B L' R
3. 6.70 R' B R' B R B R L R L R' L' U' R' U'
4. 6.90 B' R' U R B' L B' L' B U' L B' L' B' U'
5. (8.69) U R' U L' U L U' B U' L R' L' B' R' B'
6. 4.56 B' L B' U' R U' R U L' R L R B' L R
7. 4.22 R U R U' R' B L U R' B R' B R' L B'
8. 7.11 B R' B U' L' R' L R L' U B' R' L' B' U
9. 7.17 L R' L R L' R L R' B' U' R U' R B L'
10. 6.14 B' U' R L B' U B' U' R' L R B U' L' R
11. 6.65 U' B' R' U' R B U' B' R L' R' B U L R
12. 5.08 L R' B R U B' L B' L' R' B L R U' R
13. 5.24 B' R U B' U' R' U B R' B U' L' R U' R'
14. 7.32 R' L R U L' B' U L R B U' B L R U
15. (7.67) B' U R L' R' B' L U' B L R' L U' R B'
16. (7.53) B' R B' L' R' U' B' L U' B L U' B' L R
17. 4.95 R' U' R L' B' R' B R L' U' B R' U' L' B
18. 6.88 U' L' B L B' L R L' R' L' B' R' B' R' L'
19. 5.43 R L' U' R L' U R B U' R U' L U' R L'
20. 7.02 B R L' B' U B' L' R' B R' U B' R' B L'
21. 4.69 U' L B' R U' B L R' U' R' B' R U B L
22. 6.38 B' U' R' L' R L' R B' U R' U R' L R' L'
23. 5.85 L U' L' R L' B' R' B' U R' U B' L R U
24. 7.43 L U B R' L R' B L R' B U L' U L' R
25. 6.22 L R' B R B L B' U R' L R' B L' B' U'
26. 6.78 B L' U L' B' L' B' U B' R' B R' B R' U'
27. 5.83 R' L' U' R B R' L B U B L' R L U L'
28. (3.13) B L U' B' L B R' L B' L U' L' R' B' R'
29. 4.73 L R' L' U' L' B L' B' U B U' L' R B' R
30. 6.45 L' U L U B' L R U L' U' B U B' R' U'
31. 5.21 L' B' R' U' L U' R' L' R L' R' B L' B' U'
32. 4.81 B' U L R B' R' L' U' R B' U L' U' L U
33. (3.28) B' R' L U R' B L' B' L' U L' B L' R' B
34. 5.95 L' U' L' R B U' L U' B R' L' B' L' B L'
35. 5.07 U' L R' U R' L' R' L' U' B' U L U' B L
36. 6.56 U L U' R' L' U R U B' U' B L U L U'
37. 5.35 L' R' L B R' U L' B' R' B U' R' B' R U'
38. 6.44 U' R B L' R L B L U R L R' L B' U
39. 5.45 U' B L' U B' L' R B R U L B' R L U'
40. 7.20 L U B U L' R' U' L U' B' L U' R B' R'
41. 5.64 B R U B R' L' U L U' R' L' U' R' B' U
42. 5.28 B L' B U' R' L' U L' U' L B U' R L' B'
43. (3.12) U' R B' R' L' U L U B' L B' L B L' R'
44. 7.46 B' L' B' U' B L' B' L R' L B' L B' U L
45. 4.90 L' B R' U L U R' U' L' R U B' U B' L'
46. 4.24 B L' B' U' B U' R' B' R B' L' U R' U' B'
47. 6.38 U' L B' U R' B L U' B L U R' B' L' R'
48. 5.30 L R' B' U B' U L B' U' R' U' B L' R' L
49. 5.05 L' U B U' R L B' U' L' R' B R L' R' B'
50. 3.72 R L' U R U R U' L' R' U B' L' R' U' R'
stats:
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number of times: 50/50
best time: 3.12
worst time: 8.69

current avg5: 4.86 (σ = 0.55)
best avg5: 4.81 (σ = 0.53)

current avg12: 5.32 (σ = 0.99)
best avg12: 5.27 (σ = 0.93)

current avg50: 5.77 (σ = 1.05)
best avg50: 5.77 (σ = 1.05)

session avg: 5.77 (σ = 1.05)
session mean: 5.75

Skewb Image Templates

A while back I made a template for generating Skewb images as I do for my website. Per request, I've uploaded this template in two parts, separated for the foreground UFR faces and the background DBL faces. I've also uploaded the master template I use as an .xcf file that is compatible with GIMP for those who have it.
For those without GIMP, I position the layer with the UFR faces on top of the layer with the DBL faces, and additionally set the opacity of the layer with the DBL faces to 50%.

Colours I use:
White: ffffff
Red: ff0000
Green: 008800
Yellow: ffff00
Orange: ff8800
Blue: 0000ff
Pink: ee5aff
Grey: 888888

Template links:
Skewb Shell v2.0 - UFR.png
Skewb Shell v2.0 - Fillable DBL.png
Skewb Shell v2.0.xcf
 
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Mean of 24: 5.13

Time List:
1. 7.00[Black] R' B U' B' R' U L' U' R' L B R B R B'
2. 6.00[Green] U' R L' R B U R B' R' L' U B' U' R L'
3. 6.00[blue] B R L U' B' L' U R' L' U' L U' L' U' R'
4. 6.00[blue] R' L' R' B' L B R' U R B' L B L B L'
5. 2.00[green] U R B' R B L' B' R' U B' R' U L' U R'
6. 5.00[red] B L B' L U L' U' L' R' U' R U R L U'
7. 4.00[red] L B' U B U' B' L R' B' L B U R B' L'
8. 4.00[yellow] R B' R' B L' U' B R U' L' U' L' U' R U
9. 6.00[red] U R' L R' L' R' U R L' R' U L R' L U
10. 6.00[red] R B' L R B U B R' U' B R' U B' U L'
11. 4.00[orange] L' B L' R' B' L R' U' R' L' R U B U' R
12. 5.00[blue] B R L' U B' R' B' U B L U R U R' B'
13. 6.00[orange] L U R L B R' U B U L' R' L R' L' B'
14. 6.00[orange] B' L R' L' B' L' R' L' B' U L R' U' L R'
15. 7.00[black] L B' R' B' L R' U' B U' B U B' U R' B
16. 4.00[orange] L' B' U B R' U B' U' B L' B L B' R U'
17. 5.00[blue] R' B U R U L B U' L R' L R' U L' R
18. 6.00[black] R' U L B' L' U' L R L B U' B U R U'
19. 3.00[black] R' U' R L U B R L' B' U' L U L' R' B'
20. 5.00[yellow] U' R L U B' L' R' B' L R B' R U R U
21. 5.00[yellow] L' R U R' B' R L' B U B U B U R' B'
22. 6.00[red] U L' B' U' R L' B R' L R' B' R U L U
23. 6.00[yellow] R' U L U' B L R' B' L U L' B' R B' L
24. 3.00[green] L B R' U' R B' U L B' R' L' R' L' R U

I also did a Face Movecount
Mean of 12: 3.67

Time List:
1. 2.00[orange] U' L B U R U' B' U R' U' B' R U' R' B'
2. 5.00[blue] L U' B' U R B' R B' U' B' U B L B U'
3. 5.00[blue] R' L B' R B L' U' L B U B U R' U' R'
4. 4.00[red] B' L' B U L' U' R U B U R' L' R U B'
5. 5.00[red] B R' L' U' B' R U' B' U B' R B R U L
6. 4.00[red] U L R' B U' L' B L' U' L U R L U R
7. 2.00[orange] R' U' L R B U' L R' B' U' L' U L U' B'
8. 4.00[red] U' L' R' U L' U B U' R' B L' B U' L' B'
9. 3.00[orange] U L' B' U' B' U R L R B' R U' R' L' B
10. 2.00[blue] U R B' L' U' B R' U' L U B L U' R U'
11. 4.00[black] R B U' B U' R' B R U' B' L U L R U
12. 4.00[orange] U R B' L' B' R' B' U' B L' U R U L U'
 

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The centres on QJ and LanLan both pop easily. Do competitors need to adjust their style to avoid pops?

Perhaps we've been spoiled to much with the advances in other twisty puzzles...

Tim.
My lanlan doesn't pop that often but 1/3 of the ball bearrings have fallen out.
 
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3x3 cross can be done in 8 or fewer moves. I am curious if anyone made a similar study regarding placing the first 4 corners around one center. What's the average/max optimal movecount?
For all who care here you go:
One-color first layer:
0 540
1 4320
2 23760
3 136080
4 622080
5 1603260
6 745200
7 14040
Total: 3,149,280
Average Move Count: 4.9326131687242798353909465020576

Graph: oneColor.png

Opposite-color first layer:
0 1068
1 8544
2 46752
3 261648
4 1051728
5 1582428
6 196560
7 552
Total: 3,149,280
Average Move Count: 4.5055593659503124523700655387898

Graph: oppositeColor.png

Color-neutral first layer:
0 3110
1 24880
2 133152
3 666904
4 1675934
5 640870
6 4430
Total: 3,149,280
Average Move Count: 3.8823356449728191840674693898288

Graph: colorNeutral.png

If you want me to do any other statistics just let me know.
 
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Auto-correct?
when using a ipod or any ios device the auto-correct is annoying.





Also 1 looking Skewb solves harder than 2x2 half the puzzle rotates at a time. But someone will be able to eventually. Also what is your TPS on Skewb mine is like 1.5 and a average around 18. Singles vary greatly from 10-25.
 
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