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Should the Face-turning Octahedron be WCA official?

Should octahedron be official?

  • Yes (say why)

    Votes: 5 14.3%
  • No (say why)

    Votes: 30 85.7%

  • Total voters
    35

cashis

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So, recently my friend gave me his octahedron, and I've kinda fallen in love.
I was thinking that it really isn't a shape mod (that I know of), and it's kinda a puzzle of its own, like skewb was before it was made official.
I know not many people speedsolve octa (or even have one), but I'm sure if made official, there would be way more interest. I personally think octahedron would add a really cool event to the WCA, that would bring more variety.
If you agree, comment why, and if you don't, also comment why. Just posting for feedback, and seeing if there's interest :)
edit: I'm talking about the 8 axis face turning ones, sorry
 
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cubizh

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I myself have a Dayan Octahedron, but I'm sure if it was added to the WCA, there would be puzzle specifications.
This type of puzzle is called a Face-turning Octahedron (FTO).
To me personally FTOs are not very appealing to solve given the shape and the method that I use.
Also, I don't see it having much (if any) popularity enough to warrant being an official WCA event.
cashis said:
Sorry for being uneducated
Nothing wrong with not having enough knowledge, just don't miss the opportunity to learn something new when you can.
You can read more here about this puzzle: http://www.jaapsch.net/puzzles/octaface.htm

EDIT: Actually, Dayan only made Corner Turning Octahedrons. Same shape different puzzle completely: http://www.jaapsch.net/puzzles/octahed.htm
 
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This type of puzzle is called a Face-turning Octahedron (FTO).
Um I have one of these, its a corner turning octahedron, its like a megaminx version of a pyraminx
It could be solved like a edges only 3x3 though, so it wouldn't add much new. And there's not enough time in competitions for new events to be added.
 
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cashis

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This type of puzzle is called a Face-turning Octahedron (FTO).
To me personally FTOs are not very appealing to solve given the shape and the method that I use.
Also, I don't see it having much (if any) popularity enough to warrant being an official WCA event.

Nothing wrong with not having enough knowledge, just don't miss the opportunity to learn something new when you can.
You can read more here about this puzzle: http://www.jaapsch.net/puzzles/octaface.htm
Thanks, this was a crash& burn thread , lol
 

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I hate this argument.
I just thought about it, and I sounded like a jerk, sorry.

That being said, I think there should be new events occasionally. But I have to ask, are there any octahedrons designed for speed, and anyone who speedsolves them? Is there a possibility that octahedron as an event might become the next Skewb?

Also, what do you think about 3x3 cube relays or 2x2-nxn relays?
 

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I think "we have enough events already don't add anything new" is quite good and perfectly valid argument.

We currently have a set of official events that already represent a good variety of puzzles (IMO) and if we have too many events every event is being held more and more rarely which I think is bad. Now we can still just fit all the existing events in 2 day comp so everybody can compete in their chosen event. If we had more events we would have to leave some out and maybe only hold some events only once or twice a year. Not good IMO.

So as I have said before: We have just the right amount of events now so pls dont add anything new... No new events are constantly added to other sports either (track&field, swimming etc etc...)
 

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I think "we have enough events already don't add anything new" is quite good and perfectly valid argument.

We currently have a set of official events that already represent a good variety of puzzles (IMO) and if we have too many events every event is being held more and more rarely which I think is bad. Now we can still just fit all the existing events in 2 day comp so everybody can compete in their chosen event. If we had more events we would have to leave some out and maybe only hold some events only once or twice a year. Not good IMO.

So as I have said before: We have just the right amount of events now so pls dont add anything new... No new events are constantly added to other sports either (track&field, swimming etc etc...)
What is it about competitions not holding all events that is bad?

There are certainly a lot of puzzles/events that could fit the bill to be official. I think that as long as a particular puzzle/event has developed methods of solving, is popular on a global scale, and has the ability to be implemented in competition (procedurally, for scrambling, for data entry), then it should be considered for eventhood.

There are already some events that rarely get held as it is in some parts of the world (e.g. feet in the USA, 4BLD/5BLD everywhere, FMC means of 3). Should we remove some events to make the others more palatable for organisers to accommodate?

And the Olympics does just fine with changing events.
 

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The OP is talking about a corner turning octahedron. I personally think that replacing pyra with this could be a good option in a few years time.
 
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