# Request for volunteers to participate in a speedcubing experiment

#### Mike Hughey

Staff member
Hi. My daughter Rebecca, who is a computer science major, is in a college psychology class and would like to run an experiment to study whether it makes any difference to sit or stand while speedsolving a cube.

What we would like people to try is the following experiment:

1. Flip a coin (or use any other method to choose between 2 possibilities) to decide whether to sit or stand for your first solve.
2. Perform 24 3x3x3 solves with valid scrambles from your favorite scramble generator, switching after each solve from sitting to standing or standing to sitting.
3. When you're done, you should have 2 full averages of 12, one done sitting, and the other done standing, having alternated between sitting and standing for each solve.

When you have completed the 24 solves, please post your results here, making clear which solves were done sitting, and which were done standing. Please include all 24 result times.

For anyone who provides results for this, thank you so much in advance!!

#### SpeedCubeLegend17

##### Member
For reference, I usually average 17-18 seconds. I also realized that I got the same standing result three times in a row lol.

Standing ao12: 17.61 seconds

Sitting ao12: 17.87 seconds

Generated By csTimer+ on 2022-11-20
solves/total: 24/24

single
best: 14.60
worst: 23.19

mean of 3
current: 17.28 (σ = 2.19)
best: 16.25 (σ = 1.68)

avg of 5
current: 17.28 (σ = 2.19)
best: 16.97 (σ = 0.53)

avg of 12
current: 17.90 (σ = 2.15)
best: 17.58 (σ = 1.41)

Average: 17.74 (σ = 1.49)
Mean: 17.87

Time List:
1. 17.67 U' B L U R L B L' F D' F2 R B2 L U2 D2 L' B2 R' U2 R (Standing)
2. 17.58 R' D2 B' D F2 U2 D' R' D' F B2 L2 U2 L2 B' L2 B U2 F L2 (Sitting)
3. 16.63 B' L2 B2 U2 F R2 D2 U2 B D2 F' R2 U L U2 F' L' D B2 L F' (Standing)
4. 16.71 U L' B2 L2 U2 B R2 B' F' D2 L2 F' D2 B' U' R' D' L F R B' (Sitting)
5. 17.68 R D L2 U R2 B2 D2 L2 R2 D F2 U B' U B' F' R' U2 R D' F2 (Standing)
6. 16.09 D' B U R L2 D F' B R F2 U2 F' B2 D2 L2 F R2 L2 B2 R2 (Sitting)
7. 17.68 R2 D2 F2 R2 U2 F L2 R2 U2 L2 F R' D2 F R D2 U' L' F2 D' (Standing)
8. 20.54 B2 L2 B2 U R2 D L2 R2 B2 U' F2 B' R D2 U' B U' L R' B' (Sitting)
9. 17.68 R2 B2 R2 D L2 D' U2 R2 D F2 U' B R' D' B2 D2 U2 F L2 R F' (Standing)
10. 20.48 R2 U2 F2 D2 F U2 F' L2 B U2 F2 R D' F' D2 L' D' U2 B D (Sitting)
11. 15.57 R U D2 R' B D' F' B D' B2 U2 L' D2 R2 L' D2 F2 D2 L' D2 (Standing)
12. 17.84 U' F2 D2 F2 U' B2 D L2 U' L' D' R B' R U' R B' F U2 (Sitting)
13. 18.62 U2 F2 D2 F L2 D2 L2 F U2 L2 B D' B U2 B2 L' U' B' F D' L' (Standing)
14. 17.96 D2 B R2 D2 F R2 F2 U2 F2 D2 U2 L U2 L2 B2 D' F U' L' D U (Sitting)
15. 14.60 R2 F2 D R B U' L F R2 L2 F2 B' U2 F' B2 U2 D F (Standing)
16. 16.20 B L2 D B2 D2 L2 U' B2 D B2 F2 U F2 R' B' L2 D' L2 U2 R2 U' (Sitting)
17. 18.74 R2 F R2 F' R2 B' L2 F2 D2 L2 B' L' F2 D L' R2 D2 R' B2 D2 (Standing)
18. 21.61 L2 B F L2 B' R2 D2 L2 U2 R2 F' L' D' U F R D' B2 D R' U' (Sitting)
19. 19.37 R' F' B2 D' B2 D B2 U' B2 U' B2 F2 L2 D' F U B D F L' F2 (Standing)
20. 14.63 D2 F2 L2 F2 D' L2 D B2 D' U' F2 L' F D2 F L' B2 D' L' U (Sitting)
21. 23.19 L B' D' F2 U B2 U' F2 D' L2 D' R2 B L' U L' U L' D2 (Standing)
22. 19.75 D' R2 F2 U2 R2 B R2 F R2 U2 B F' D' F L' U F R2 B' U2 (Sitting)
23. 16.54 R2 B D2 R2 B U2 F' R2 F' D2 U2 B D' B' U L D' B U2 F2 R2 (Standing)
24. 15.56 B U B' R' F' D F B2 R' F2 L' F2 U2 F2 R' B2 U2 L F L2 (Sitting)

#### DynaXT

##### Member
Generated By csTimer on 2022-11-20
solves/total: 24/24

single
best: 10.05
worst: 31.93

mean of 3
current: 11.16 (σ = 0.59)
best: 11.16 (σ = 0.59)

avg of 5
current: 12.07 (σ = 0.98)
best: 12.07 (σ = 0.98)

avg of 12
current: 12.94 (σ = 2.06)
best: 12.35 (σ = 0.91)

Average: 12.96 (σ = 1.45)
Mean: 13.69

Time List:
1. 13.19[Stand] U' D2 B2 R' B' U' B' L U2 L2 D2 F D2 F' B2 R2 F2 L2 U2 F2 U'
2. 31.93[Sit (messed up PLL horribly)] U2 L2 F2 L B2 L F2 U2 L F2 R2 B2 U R' U B R' F' D' L B2
3. 14.02[Stand] R2 F2 D' F2 U L2 R2 D2 B2 L2 F' U' L' F2 D R' D2 F' D2 F2
4. 13.25[Sit] R2 D U F2 U L2 D' F2 L2 D' B L' D2 F R' U R2 B' D' U2
5. 12.66[Stand] F' L2 U2 B2 R2 B2 D F2 D B2 R2 D2 R F2 L2 D B' U2 R
6. 11.49[Sit] F R' L' D R' B' L B' D2 L2 U2 B' D2 L2 F' U2 R2 F2 U
7. 12.40[Stand] D F' U' D F' R B2 U B2 D' L2 U' L2 F2 U' B2 L2 D' R'
8. 12.42[Sit] B2 U F2 R2 D2 L2 D L2 F2 L2 B2 U2 B' D R F L R' U' B2 U2
9. 13.55[Stand] B' D B U' R' D2 L' U2 D2 F' R2 U2 D2 B U2 F L2 F' D2 L' U'
10. 13.67[Sit] F L2 B2 R2 B U2 L2 B R2 D2 L2 D2 U B2 R' D' L R' F D R
11. 12.27[Stand] B2 U2 L2 B2 L B2 U2 F2 L2 D2 R' B2 F U L' B' R' B' U' F'
12. 11.38[Sit] U F2 D B2 R2 U F2 L2 U F2 L2 D' L' R' D2 F' D' B L2 F'
13. 10.05[Stand] R' B2 D2 B2 F2 L2 B2 U2 L' F2 L' F2 D' F D2 U' R2 B' L D' B
14. 12.99[Sit] L' D2 F2 D2 B' F2 U2 R2 B2 L2 F D2 F' R F2 L2 D2 U' F' L2 U
15. 13.63[Stand] R2 U' R2 D' F2 R2 U F2 L2 D2 R F L' D' L2 B U2 B U' F2
16. 12.54[Sit] D' R B2 F R2 U' R2 U2 R2 D L2 B2 D L' R2 B F2 R' F2 D
17. 10.84[Stand] U D F' R' D B U L B2 L2 F2 U L2 D R2 U' D2 F2 D2 L
18. 17.04[Sit] R B2 U2 F U2 L2 D2 B2 D2 R2 F' L2 D' L U2 B' L F2 D2 U
19. 16.32+[Stand] D' B' U B2 L U B' U2 D' F2 B2 D' F2 R2 D' B2 L D
20. 16.34[Sit] D L' F2 U R' F2 R B R2 F2 R' B2 L U2 R F2 B2 L U2 B'
21. 13.20[Stand] R2 B' D2 F2 D2 L2 B2 U2 L2 F' U2 L' U F R2 D' R2 D2 U2 R' B2
22. 10.48[Sit] R2 U L2 U2 D L' B' D' R U R2 U R2 F2 B2 U2 L2 U B2 U2 L2
23. 11.56[Stand] B' L2 F2 L2 U2 F' L2 B' L2 B2 F' U R2 U' L R B L B D' R2
24. 11.45[Sit] R2 F2 R2 D2 L2 D2 B2 F D' B2 D L' D B L' U F' U

For context, I average probably sub 14. The only difference I could tell that had to do with sitting/standing is that timer starts/stops were kinda slow standing, because I used a stackmat timer on my ~3 ft tall desk and I'm 5'9" (I'm fairly certain that's the only reason my 10.05 wasn't sub 10). Use this information however you want.

#### Mike Hughey

Staff member
Just to keep track of everything in this thread, here are my results:

sitting for first solve
Sitting:
avg of 12: 22.46

Time List:
1. 21.48 F L F' D' R' D F D2 B' D2 B2 R D2 R U2 D2 F2 U2 L2
2. 26.19 R2 B' D2 F' L2 B R2 F U2 F' U2 L2 R' D' L' B L2 D' U' B'
3. (18.27) B R' B' D R B2 R' F R' D' F2 R2 U2 D R2 B2 U F2
4. 21.54 L F' U2 L2 D' B L F' D F2 U' B2 R2 D L2 U' L2 D L2 U' L'
5. 23.27 R U R L' F2 D B' D L' R2 U B2 U2 B2 D' R2 F2 L2 F2 D R2
6. 21.00 R B U B2 D2 L' U F2 U2 L' F2 R2 D2 R2 U2 B2 L' U2 B D
7. 19.28 R D' B U2 R2 U2 F' R2 B' U2 F D2 L2 F' R D B L R' F' U'
8. 21.28 B R' U2 R2 F' R2 F2 R2 U2 L2 F' R2 B' R2 D B U' L' B2 U R'
9. 24.15 U' L2 D2 U L2 U R2 B2 L2 D2 L D' B U L2 F L' R2 B R2
10. 21.17 D R2 B2 R2 D' R2 D R2 U2 F2 U2 B U R D B' F2 D L2 U'
11. 25.19 B2 L2 D R2 U L2 R2 D2 L2 F' L' B2 D F' L2 R' B2 R U2
12. (28.88) D' L2 F R2 B' L2 F2 D2 F2 R2 F U2 D R' B F D' R' F' R

Standing:
avg of 12: 22.66

Time List:
1. (17.66) U2 F U2 B2 D2 R2 D2 F L2 B2 F' D' B2 D2 L F2 U' R F' R2 D'
2. 22.90 U B2 U2 B2 F2 R2 U R2 B2 U' B U R2 U' L' F2 U' F2 R
3. 23.48 R' B R' F2 D2 R2 B' R2 B' L2 R2 U2 F L' D R' B2 F' D' B2
4. 23.97 L2 B D' F2 R B R' D U2 R2 B D2 L2 B R2 B L2 U2 L2 F2
5. (25.87) B R' B' D2 U2 F' L2 R2 U2 B F2 U2 F' D L' F2 D2 L' B2 U
6. 21.18 B' L2 F' R2 U2 F' L U' D' R2 F2 R2 L2 U' B2 L2 F2 U L2 B
7. 25.30 L2 F' R2 B L2 D2 B R2 U2 B' R2 U2 R B2 F D' U R D' U
8. 19.44 B' R2 F2 L2 D2 F D2 F2 R2 F' U B2 R D' B2 U2 B U' R'
9. 21.87 F L2 B L2 U2 L2 F2 L2 F' L2 F' D B F L B' U' F2 U2 L'
10. 20.61 L2 F2 R2 B2 R2 D' U' F2 U' L2 D' F' U' L2 B' L D U B U' B2
11. 22.25 R2 F L2 F2 R2 U' L2 D' B2 D' R2 F2 D' L' F R F' D' U R' B'
12. 25.62 U' B2 D' F2 R B L F2 L2 D B2 L2 U2 R2 D F2 R2 D2 R

And here are Rebecca Hughey's results:
standing for first solve
Standing:
avg of 12: 43.80

Time List:
1. 47.94 U2 B2 D2 F D2 F L2 U2 L2 F' U2 B2 L' R D' L D2 U L2 B L'
2. 41.34 R F2 R2 B R2 L2 F2 D' R' U F2 L2 D2 R2 D' B2 R2 F2
3. 41.12 R' F' R' F' B2 L' D' F2 R U2 R F2 R2 B2 D2 F2 L' D L'
4. 42.61 F' R2 F2 D' R2 D' R2 D2 F2 L2 U' B2 L' D2 R D2 F U' B2 F' R'
5. (1:21.87) U' L F2 D2 U R2 F2 R2 U' L2 B2 D B' F U' R F2 D2 F' L2
6. 42.59 R2 F' R2 B2 D L F2 B L' U L2 U F2 U' B2 D F2 B2 U2 F2
7. 40.22 R' B2 F2 R2 B2 R' U2 L B2 D2 B' R2 U F R D2 B L2
8. 43.22 D' L' U F2 L2 U L2 B2 U' B2 D2 B2 R2 L B U L U2 L2 D'
9. 50.86 R' B2 L B2 L B2 R2 D2 F2 L U2 B' L2 F2 U L B' D2 F D
10. 46.07 R2 D2 F' D R' L2 D' F' U' R U2 R U2 L F2 B2 L2 F2 D2 R'
11. 42.07 R' F L2 F' R2 B' D2 F' L2 B2 U2 R2 U F R2 U2 F L F' U2
12. (37.06) L B' L U F' D B' D R D2 F2 U2 L' B2 R2 U2 R D2 L' U2 F

Sitting:
avg of 12: 43.16

Time List:
1. 51.06 D' L2 D2 L2 U' F2 R2 D' B2 D2 F2 L2 B' R' D' F' U2 R D U R'
2. 39.05 L' U B R F2 L B U' B2 U L2 D' L2 U2 F2 U' B2 U' L2 B'
3. 46.14 B R F' R B L' U' D' R F' U2 F R2 F R2 F' R2 B' D2 L2 U2
4. 40.78 L2 B2 D' B2 R2 D2 B2 L2 U B2 L2 F' R' U' F D F L2 D F2
5. (36.83) L2 D2 L2 F' R2 F D2 F2 D2 R2 B U2 L D' B' L2 R2 F' R B2 F2
6. 37.38 F2 U2 R2 D2 B U2 R2 B2 U2 L2 B2 U B' D' L B2 U2 B L' F' R
7. 39.32 R D2 U2 R' F2 L2 U2 F2 U2 R2 D B' D' B' U L U L2
8. (55.55) B2 L2 U' B2 F2 U' R2 B2 U B' U R D' U R D2 F L' R
9. 40.00 R2 U2 F R2 F R2 F2 L2 D2 F' U F' L2 F' D B2 R U' F
10. 48.14 D' R2 D' B2 D2 U' L2 U' R2 F2 L2 R' U2 B L F' U L2 F2 L' D
11. 51.01 R2 F2 U L2 U2 B2 D' R2 F2 U R2 U B' D2 R' B U B2 D F L
12. 38.71 L U' F' L2 U B' D L F2 R2 B2 D2 L' B2 R' F2 R' B

Yeah, we're slow.

#### Lio2010

##### Member
Generated By csTimer on 2022-11-21
avg of 12: 24.76

Time List:
1. 23.92 L R' B2 L2 F2 U2 L' B2 F2 U2 F2 R' D' L2 F U R B D L2 B2
2. 23.83+ F2 R F U2 R2 D2 F2 U2 B' U2 L2 R2 D' U2 F' L2 B2 U' R2
3. 21.31 B L2 F R2 B' F2 U2 L2 F U2 R2 U F2 D R' F U2 L R2 D
4. 25.46 F2 L2 B2 L' B2 R2 D2 R2 U2 F2 D B L' D' U2 L' U2 F' U'
5. 20.94 B L2 U2 L2 D2 B' F2 R2 B F2 U' F' R B' R2 F L2 D2 F
6. (19.50) L' U' B2 U' R2 U' R2 F2 D2 L2 U L' R' B' F L D B2 U' F'
7. 29.04 U' R2 F L2 F R2 F' D2 B' L2 F R' U' R U2 B' L2 F' U2
8. 21.69 L' B2 U' R D2 R' F2 L' R2 F2 D2 B2 F2 L2 B R D2 B' F U' R2
9. (30.41) D2 B2 R2 D2 B U2 F D2 F2 L2 R' D' U' R U B D' L2 D'
10. 24.88 R F2 U2 F2 L2 B2 R2 D R2 D' U' L2 F D B R2 B2 L' U2 F' R2
11. 27.98 R B L' F' B' R' U2 L2 F2 L2 B2 D' R2 D' L2 F2 B2 U L U'
12. 28.50 F2 D2 L2 B' U2 F' U2 R2 F L2 F' R2 D' B F' U' L' U' F2 U B
Generated By csTimer on 2022-11-21
avg of 12: 29.31

Time List:
1. 27.27 R2 B' F2 U' L2 D2 U L2 B2 D' B2 D2 B2 R2 B L' D2 B' F2 U B
2. 31.78 D' B2 D2 R' D2 R' D2 L2 R' D2 R F2 R' U' R' F D U' F L2
3. 28.97 F L F D B2 U2 F' L B R2 U' B2 D B2 U L2 B2 U2 F2 U B2
4. 30.84 R B' L2 B2 R U2 B2 R U2 R F2 U2 L' B2 D' B U' L' D2 U B
5. 31.58+ F' B2 U' D2 B U B F2 R U2 R' D2 R L2 F2 D2 B2 D2 F'
6. 29.08 R' L2 F L2 F D2 B R2 F L2 F' L2 F2 L' R2 D2 U B2 F' D'
7. 26.91 U2 D' R2 F U' L U' B' F2 R' L' U2 L' U2 F2 R2 B2 D2 F
8. 28.12 R' D2 L2 F' R2 F' D2 R2 D2 R2 F R' U B' D' U L' B2 F' U
9. 29.52 F L2 U L U2 L' F2 B' U2 L2 F U2 B' L2 D2 F R2 L B2
10. (26.43) U' R B2 R2 L' D2 L' U' F U2 B2 R2 B' U2 B' L2 F' D2 R2 D
11. 29.00 L U R' F' B' U D2 R2 F' U2 D' R2 D' B2 U R2 L2 B2 R2 U'
12. (32.16) F2 R B U2 B R2 F U2 F L2 B R2 B L D' U R' F R2 D'

Btw. It would be faster Normally if i could use my gan 12 that a friend broke

#### Abram Grimsley

##### Member
Hi. My daughter Rebecca, who is a computer science major, is in a college psychology class and would like to run an experiment to study whether it makes any difference to sit or stand while speedsolving a cube.

What we would like people to try is the following experiment:

1. Flip a coin (or use any other method to choose between 2 possibilities) to decide whether to sit or stand for your first solve.
2. Perform 24 3x3x3 solves with valid scrambles from your favorite scramble generator, switching after each solve from sitting to standing or standing to sitting.
3. When you're done, you should have 2 full averages of 12, one done sitting, and the other done standing, having alternated between sitting and standing for each solve.

When you have completed the 24 solves, please post your results here, making clear which solves were done sitting, and which were done standing. Please include all 24 result times.

For anyone who provides results for this, thank you so much in advance!!
I'll do an average later today when I get back from town!

#### Swagrid

##### Member
Generated By csTimer on 2022-11-21
avg of 12: 9.84

Time List:
1. 9.38 L' B2 R' U2 L D2 L U2 R2 D2 U2 B U' R2 U' L D2 R F' U
2. 10.09 R U2 B' D2 U2 B D2 L2 R2 F' L U2 L F' D B R' U
3. 9.07 L2 D2 B2 F2 R' B2 R B2 R B2 R B2 F U R2 B' L' B2 U2 R2
4. 9.82 R' U2 F' R' B2 R U2 B U2 R2 U2 L2 U B2 D' B2 R2 U B2 D2
5. 10.78 F2 D B2 U R2 D B2 L2 U' R2 B2 F' D' B F R' F2 R' B2 D2
6. 8.77 F' D2 L D F' U' L' D' L' B D2 B' U2 B L2 D2 B' D2 F2
7. 11.08 R' B2 D L2 D' F' L' F' U' F R2 F' U2 B' D2 B2 R2 U2 L2 F'
8. 9.37 U' F2 U2 L' D2 F2 R F2 R' B2 U2 F2 B R' D2 B D U2 L R
9. 11.11 F' U R L2 U2 B U2 F' U2 F' R2 B' D2 U B' L R B2 R' F2
10. 8.95 B2 D' B2 L F L D R D F R2 B' L2 F D2 F2 D2 R2 F' L2 D2
11. (7.95) R D B L' D2 B2 U' F' U' D' R2 B2 D L2 B2 U2 R2 B2 D' B2
12. (11.35) D2 B2 R2 B2 R' F2 L' F2 D2 B2 R2 U F' U2 F R2 F R' B2

Generated By csTimer on 2022-11-21
avg of 12: 10.81

Time List:
1. 9.52 U F' L' B R' U B' F2 L F2 D2 F2 R U2 L2 F2 U2 R' D' F'
2. 11.12 F R' L' D F' U' F L2 F' U2 R' D2 F2 L F2 L F2 U2 L2 B2
3. 12.74 B' U2 B2 R2 B' R2 B U2 F D2 L2 U' L B' D L' B F2 D' U2 L'
4. 10.83 U2 R2 U2 F' D2 B' U2 B' D2 B2 F' L D2 U' R' F2 R' U2 R B'
5. 9.56 D' B R2 B2 U2 F U2 B L2 F L2 F' R B2 D2 R U' B' R F2
6. (8.83) D R' L2 B2 D2 R2 U' R2 B2 D L2 R2 D R' D R2 U' B' L D'
7. 9.22 U D' F B R U B D2 R F2 R2 D' R2 U L2 F2 B2 D' R2
8. 12.24 R2 L2 B' U L2 D2 R D2 F U2 F2 D2 F2 R2 B2 R2 U' R2 D F2 B2
9. (12.86) R2 F2 U2 B U2 B L2 F2 U2 L2 F R U' B2 U2 F U2 L' D'
10. 10.57 U2 F' R2 F D2 F' L2 D2 B' U2 L2 D' R' B2 F U' B D' L F R'
11. 12.77 U D R D R' D' L' U2 D2 F' R2 D2 B' R2 D2 F2 U2 B' U'
12. 9.55 D F' D2 F L2 B' U2 F' D2 U2 B U' B' U R D L F' L

I assumed that i'd be somewhat slower while standing due to the stackmat being further down and worse ergo for the opening turns. maybe that wasn't the exact reason, but it did feel like it.

#### Mastermind2368

##### Member
The coin flip chose for me to do the sitting solves first. The sitting average was decently fast for me, whereas the standing average was abnormally slow. The lighting while standing was different and I found it hard to tell some of the colors apart (I'm also colorblind) and this caused me to do incorrect LL algs.
Generated By csTimer on 2022-11-21
avg of 12: 15.07

Time List:
1. 17.21 D2 B' R2 F D2 F U2 B2 R2 U2 B U2 D' B2 L F2 L' R B' R2 D'
2. 13.43 R B2 L2 U F2 D2 R2 U B2 L2 U' L2 D' L' B' U L' U L R B2
3. (12.67) L2 F B R D F' L2 D F2 L2 B' U2 F' U2 R2 D2 F' L2 U2 F'
4. 12.88 B2 U L F2 L U2 L' U2 R2 F2 R B2 F2 U B' F D2 R' D2
5. 15.17 R2 U2 B2 D2 R2 F' L2 U2 B' D2 R' B' U' R' B2 R' D' L2 U'
6. (18.27) D2 R2 B2 D' R2 D' B2 F2 L2 B2 D U' F U2 F2 L F' R2 U' L' U2
7. 13.24 F2 U2 B' L2 R2 B U2 B' R2 B L2 D' L2 R B2 D2 U' F R' U'
8. 17.29 L2 B U D2 R' D L' D B L2 U2 R2 B L2 F2 D2 L2 D2 R2 U
9. 14.81 F B' U' F2 R2 F' U L' D2 F2 R2 B2 L2 U' R2 U R2 D R2 L
10. 17.15 R L2 F' D' F U L' F D2 L' U2 R2 D2 F2 D2 B2 R L B2 U'
11. 16.41 B' R D R2 U2 B2 R2 U R2 D L2 D R2 L' D2 F' D' R' F U2 L
12. 13.15 B' D F' U2 R D2 L2 D L F2 U D2 B2 U B2 U B2 R2 D2 B2 L2

Generated By csTimer on 2022-11-21
avg of 12: 18.28

Time List:
1. 17.70 D2 B' U2 F L2 R2 F R2 F2 U2 L2 F' U' B R' D L' D F2 D U'
2. (DNF(15.69)[Finished the PLL incorrectly and stopped the timer too fast]) L F' U2 L' U F U F R2 F D2 F2 L2 D2 B' L2 D2 L D
3. 22.62 L U2 F2 L2 U2 L F2 L2 B2 U2 R U' L' R D2 B U B F'
4. 14.80 F' L' U F' B2 U2 L R2 B2 U' R2 U B2 D R2 U R2 D2 B' L'
5. 29.36 L2 D2 B2 U2 B' L2 B U2 B' L2 F U R F' D R' U' F' D2 L2 R2
6. (14.45) B R B' U2 B R2 F' U2 F R2 F2 U2 L2 R' B2 L U L' R B'
7. 15.45 D L2 R2 D L2 B2 F2 U' R2 U2 F2 U R B R2 F R' U'
8. 14.55 L2 D2 R2 D2 F' U2 F2 L2 D2 B U2 D' B F' R D' U' F R F2 D'
9. 16.21 B' D2 L2 B' U' L F2 B' R D' F2 L2 F2 U F2 B2 U2 F2 D' B2 D'
10. 15.75 L B2 L2 R2 U' F2 U' L2 D U B2 L U' B2 U' B2 F U' B' D
11. 15.37 U L2 D R2 D' F2 R2 D B2 L2 U' F2 R' F2 R2 F' L2 R' D' R F
12. 21.02+ D B2 D' L2 U' B2 L2 R2 U F2 R' U' F L2 B2 D U' F R2 D

#### Mike Hughey

Staff member
Please do remember that we would like the solves to be alternated sitting and standing, to try to avoid bias from the solves being grouped.

Truthfully, there are various conditions we're not able to control here, since it's just volunteered information coming from different environments, so that may skew the results. But that's okay from Rebecca's perspective, since it just gives her another thing she can talk about in her paper.

Thanks to everyone so far! Please keep the results coming. Rebecca very much appreciates the data! And thank you for the comments you've been giving about the details of your situation (such as lighting and stackmat location).

#### Jacck

##### Member
Hmm, thought this would be really fun. But the lightning (standing) was pretty bad (didn't know that I have a kind of look-ahead anyway), then I was - even on the sitting-solves - thinking about "it seems that the standing solves have worse LL's" or "too bad with that light" and everything else to avoid concentration on the solve itself (including the thinking about why I'm thinking so much) - and then I got the jackpot: to sort the results I wanted to open numbers, opened pages instead and (with a tiny bit of anger) tried to quit it instantly with CMD-Q, but the focus was still on the timer -> all times are lost.
Rebecca: what I really could prove is that little changes in the setup can disturb (me) a lot
Maybe I give it another try tomorrow ... At least I had fun writing this down

#### NONOGamer12

##### Member
Mine is an spreadsheet

 STANDING SITTING # single best/worst olverall average formula # single best/worst olverall average formula 1 16.75 22.38 1 21.09 23.26 2 19.98 2 29.34 3 22.72 3 21.87 4 20.20 4 21.38 5 23.82 5 21.79 6 26.78 6 26.58 7 26.49 7 22.22 8 26.82 8 24.64 9 21.70 9 19.64 10 23.94 10 22.90 11 18.17 11 24.15 12 21.21 12 23.51

#### cubefan135

##### Member
standing
1. 27.88 L F' D' B2 F2 U R2 B2 U B2 U' R2 D' L2 F' U' L F' R U L'
2. (27.16) D2 F' U2 L2 D' L2 U R2 B2 D' B2 D2 F2 U' L' B' R D' L' F L2
3. 32.12 R U F2 U2 F' R2 D2 F' U2 B L2 D2 R2 F2 U B2 R' D B' L'
4. 36.12 R B2 U' F2 L2 F2 R2 D2 B2 D2 U' R2 B' U' R2 B' L F R D2 B
5. 37.09 U' F' B' U2 F2 D B' R2 U L2 U' R2 F2 R2 F2 U2 R2 U' R2 L U'
6. 29.97 L2 D2 B2 L F2 L B F2 U F2 U D2 F2 U R2 B2 R2 F2 L' D2
7. (38.35) R2 F U2 F' D2 B U2 L2 B' F' R U' R2 U L2 U' F U2 R2
8. 32.74 B L2 B' L2 B2 U2 F' L2 B2 U2 R B' D U' F U2 B' F' R F'
9. 37.36 U2 R2 B2 L2 F2 R2 D U2 B2 U B2 R' B L F D' R B F L2
10. 35.61 R2 B' F2 R2 U2 R2 D2 B' R2 B2 F' D' L U2 B F' R D' B L'
11. 37.94 F2 R' U2 F2 L' F2 U2 R' B2 D2 B2 D B' D F' U F' D F2 R
12. 28.35 L2 B' U2 F D B L D' L2 F D2 F2 U2 F R2 B2 R2 U2 F R2
average = 33.518

sitting
1. 35.17 U' R F2 D L' D' L' B' R' U B2 U R2 D' L2 F2 U' F2 R2 B2 D2
2. (46.65) D L' D F2 L2 D R2 B2 R2 D2 F2 B' D' F' R' B' L2 F2 L'
3. 35.59 L2 F2 U' B2 U B2 D2 L2 D B2 R2 U R' B L D R' D' F' D2 B2
4. 36.57 U F U' R D2 R2 D' U2 B2 U2 R L2 B2 R B2 L' U2 F2 L2 F' R2
5. 36.59 R' F2 B' U' R D2 L' F L2 F2 U' L2 U F2 B2 D2 R2 L2 D F2 B
6. 30.25 R2 B2 D U F2 L2 D' R2 B2 L2 F2 L' B' L2 B U' L2 R2 B L'
7. 35.15 D2 F' U2 L2 U R U2 R F L2 D F2 L2 F2 D' F2 U2 D' B2 D2 R2
8. 33.69 D2 R2 D2 L2 U2 F' U2 B2 L2 D2 F2 L B' D' U2 B L F D' B'
9. (28.14) D2 L' B2 R' F' D' R' L2 B D2 B R2 F R2 B U2 R2 U2 L' B2
10. 34.62 F R D B2 R' B U' R F B2 R' F2 R2 U2 F2 U2 L U2 D2 R2 U2
11. 36.93 U R' U B2 R2 F2 L2 D R2 F2 D F2 D L' F' L' F2 R D
12. 38.10 B D2 R L' U L' B' L D2 F2 U2 F U2 B U2 F2 L2 D2 F2 D'
average = 35.266

I also decided to run a t-test on my results and got p=0.11 that standing is faster than sitting.

Having to reach down to hit the spacebar may have added some extra seconds to my standing times, I'm not sure to what degree that affects the results.

#### Mastermind2368

##### Member
Please do remember that we would like the solves to be alternated sitting and standing, to try to avoid bias from the solves being grouped.
Whoops, I misread that originally and I totally agree that there is some bias to be found from grouping solves together. I decided to do another ao24 with alternating, and it seems like my previous average helped me to combat the lighting better. Here are my new results, but there's no pressure to use them if bias is believed to be found from me having done a similar experiment just a few hours prior.

My even solves were standing up, while my odd solves were sitting down.
Generated By csTimer on 2022-11-21
solves/total: 24/24

single
best: 10.71
worst: 20.30

mean of 3
current: 15.04 (σ = 1.98)
best: 13.23 (σ = 2.35)

avg of 5
current: 15.80 (σ = 0.68)
best: 13.55 (σ = 0.12)

avg of 12
current: 14.94 (σ = 1.42)
best: 14.75 (σ = 1.83)

Average: 15.12 (σ = 1.56)
Mean: 15.19

Time List:
1. 14.77 B R U' R2 B2 U L2 B2 F2 U B2 D' B2 U2 L' D2 U B2 L2 B' L'
2. 15.04 F R' U' D2 R F D F U2 R2 D2 F' L2 U2 F' B' L2 D' F'
3. 16.67 F' R2 B F2 R2 B U2 F' L2 D2 B D2 L' U R2 U' F L F' L2
4. 18.34 D2 R' D L2 R2 F2 U' R2 B2 F2 U L D' L2 F D2 B D U'
5. 13.87 F' U B2 L2 D U2 L2 U F2 U B2 R D B' R2 B2 L' F' R2 D
6. 13.48 L U2 D2 B' D' L' F2 D' L' D2 L' B2 R' D2 B2 L' F2 D2
7. 16.80 B2 R' U' R2 D2 B' D F' D2 F2 U2 R D2 R F2 D2 L2 D2 R F2 D'
8. 12.80 D L U L2 U2 B F R2 B L2 R2 U2 L2 R B' D2 B' R' U2 R
9. 16.87 B2 F D' R2 U' B2 D2 L2 B2 D' R2 D' L' U2 B' U2 F2 U R2 B2
10. 13.42 D' L2 U R2 U2 B2 R2 U2 L D B L' B' D2 F2 L' F L2
11. 13.61 B L' U F L' D2 L2 D' B2 U2 B2 R F2 L' D2 R B2 D2
12. 18.35 L2 U' F2 D' B2 R2 F2 U2 F2 D2 U B' R' F' U' L2 B D B D
13. 13.63 B2 L2 B2 D R2 U R2 F2 L2 F2 U B' U B' F' L' D' F' U2 R2
14. 10.71 B2 F2 D R2 B2 U B2 D' L2 D2 F2 L F' D2 B L B F R F2 U2
15. 15.35 D B' U2 L2 B F D2 B' R2 F' L2 F' U B2 D B' L' F L' F2 R
16. 20.30 R U2 F2 R2 B2 U L2 F2 U' F2 D2 U L R' U' F D B L F2 L
17. 13.31 R2 U R2 B' R' F' B' R D2 F R2 U2 B U2 R2 F2 R2 F' D2 B2
18. 14.08 B2 R2 D2 L2 U' B2 U L2 D' L2 D2 B2 L' U' L2 B D2 B F2 L' U
19. 16.05 R B' L2 U B' D' R' B U L2 D2 L2 U' F2 D2 R2 L2 B2 D
20. 15.04 R' L2 D2 F' R L2 U B2 R2 U2 F2 R' B2 U2 D2 L D2 U
21. 16.87 D2 F2 L2 U2 R2 D2 B2 F' R2 F2 R2 U2 L' F L2 F2 D2 F U R2
22. 12.76 B D2 L' F2 D2 L2 B2 F2 R' B2 U2 R' U' F2 L D2 R2 F D B2
23. 16.00 F2 R' L' D' B' R2 B' R' U2 F2 B' R2 F2 R2 D2 F' U2 L2 F' D' R
24. 16.35 D R F2 U2 L U2 L2 U2 B2 R' F L' R2 B R B U' F

I didn't feel like spending 5 minutes manually calculating my standing vs sitting average, so I spent 15 minutes writing a script to do it for me. This time around, my standing solves averaged to be 14.97 (pretty good for me) whereas my sitting solves were 15.36 (still not bad for me, maybe I'm faster than I think).

If anyone else wants to use this script to separate their odd vs even solves, here's a link for the replit. Just drag and drop your exported average, rename the csv to be "csTimerExport" and run the script.

#### Abram Grimsley

##### Member

Generated By csTimer on 2022-11-21 (solving from 2022-11-21 16:11:55 to 2022-11-21 16:42:29)
solves/total: 24/24

single
best: 11.77
worst: 20.47

mean of 3
current: 16.44 (σ = 1.49)
best: 13.59 (σ = 1.92)

avg of 5
current: 15.57 (σ = 0.92)
best: 14.43 (σ = 1.43)

avg of 12
current: 15.46 (σ = 1.94)
best: 14.99 (σ = 1.31)

Average: 15.38 (σ = 1.53)
Mean: 15.49

Time List:
1. 15.89[sitting] F' R L2 F' R2 L2 D' B2 R2 L2 B U2 F' R2 B' U2 L2 B' R2 L B' @2022-11-21 16:11:55
2. 13.99[standing] R2 F2 L2 D2 F D2 B' L2 U2 B' D2 B' U B2 D2 F' D L2 B' L F @2022-11-21 16:21:17
3. 14.74[sitting] U2 F' L B R D L2 F R' F' U2 R2 D2 B2 U2 B' U2 B R2 F' @2022-11-21 16:22:14
4. 15.36[standing] D L U L2 R2 U2 L2 U' F2 U' F2 D2 L2 F' L F R' F2 L' D @2022-11-21 16:23:24
5. 16.84[sitting] U' D2 F' R' B' U R L2 U R2 U R2 B2 R2 F2 B2 U2 B2 U R' D2 @2022-11-21 16:24:33
6. 13.40[standing] U2 F U2 F' R2 F U2 R2 B2 L2 D R2 D L' F2 D' B' L2 R' @2022-11-21 16:25:24
7. 11.77[sitting] D F2 D F2 R2 B2 L2 U2 B2 U B2 U B' U F U2 R D L' B2 F2 @2022-11-21 16:26:27
8. 15.59[standing] D2 F2 L F2 L' R' U2 F2 L' B2 L2 U' R' D2 U2 F2 L2 F' D2 B @2022-11-21 16:27:21
9. 19.17[sitting] B U' R2 U2 B2 L U2 L' U2 F2 L' D2 B2 R' U' L R F' U' B' L @2022-11-21 16:28:26
10. 16.68[standing] F U2 R2 B2 F2 R' D2 B2 L2 R' B2 L B D B2 L R U' R U @2022-11-21 16:29:14
11. 15.24[sitting] F2 D2 R2 U L2 D L2 B2 D2 B2 U R D2 U2 R' B F2 D' B' F2 @2022-11-21 16:29:59
12. 15.27[standing] D' F' B2 D2 R B D' R2 F R D2 R' U2 L D2 F2 R L2 B2 U2 R @2022-11-21 16:30:56
13. 12.78[sitting] L' U L2 B2 F2 D2 B2 U' R2 D2 F2 R2 U2 B L D B F L2 F' U2 @2022-11-21 16:31:40
14. 16.00[standing] D R2 B2 F2 R F2 D2 U2 R F2 U2 R D2 U' B2 U' R' F U' L2 @2022-11-21 16:32:27
15. 12.73[sitting] U' R F D' R2 F2 D' L2 U2 L2 F2 D U2 L2 F U2 R D2 F R2 B @2022-11-21 16:33:09
16. 16.82[standing] R2 F2 R2 D2 B2 U R2 D' B2 R2 B D U2 B2 L R D2 L' F @2022-11-21 16:33:55
17. 20.47[sitting] D B2 L2 R2 D2 U' L2 D' L2 U' F2 B R' D' B U' F R2 D2 F2 R2 @2022-11-21 16:35:07
18. 12.94[standing] L F2 U2 R2 D L2 D F2 U2 R2 U' F R2 D2 F L2 R' B' L' @2022-11-21 16:35:58
19. 18.08[sitting] B R L2 F D' F2 B D B2 R2 D2 B2 D2 R' L' @2022-11-21 16:36:41
20. 15.22[standing] F' U' B' R' D B' U F D2 L2 F' D2 F U2 B' U2 F2 B' D2 R B2 @2022-11-21 16:37:39
21. 13.47[sitting] F' L' B L F' U B' L F' L2 U2 D2 F D2 B2 D2 L2 U2 B' @2022-11-21 16:39:03
22. 14.87[standing] L' F' R U2 B2 R D2 F2 R B2 R' U2 B2 F2 U B2 L F' D2 L F' @2022-11-21 16:39:49
23. 17.84[sitting] L' B2 D' B2 U' F2 U F2 U2 L2 B2 U' B' U' F' U2 B' L R U2 @2022-11-21 16:40:38
24. 16.61[standing] R' U B2 D L2 D B2 R2 D F2 R2 U L B' U F' R2 D' U2 F2 @2022-11-21 16:42:29

#### bbbbbbbowen

##### Member
Pretty fun experiment

Generated By csTimer on 2022-11-22
avg of 12: 10.91

Time List:
1. 10.04 F' L D2 B' D2 L2 B D2 F2 D2 R2 B L2 B L R D' B' D F' R2
2. 10.11 R' B' U D2 F' L' U' F' R F2 D B2 R2 D R2 D R2 F2 U' B2 D
3. 10.84 L2 D' L2 F2 U2 F2 U' R2 D' U2 F' R2 U2 R2 D2 F' U' R D' F'
4. (12.45) B U L2 B2 U B2 U' F2 D' R2 U2 R' F' U F' D B' L2 F R'
5. 10.37 R2 D' R' D' B' U' R D' R' B2 L F2 R U2 F2 L2 F2 B2 D2 F2
6. 12.08 D2 F2 L2 U L2 B2 F2 D2 U R2 F2 B' R' D B2 L' F' U2 F2 R B2
7. 11.57 U L2 U' F2 D R2 U R2 B2 D' F2 D' R' B F' D' R U' B2 L' U2
8. 10.57 D L2 U' R2 D2 R2 U' F2 D' B D2 L2 U2 F2 U' L' R' B' U' L'
9. 11.81 F' R2 U' R U2 B' R2 D F2 L2 B2 L B2 R B2 L B2 U2 L2 D B
10. (6.88) U2 L D2 R2 F D2 R2 B2 U2 F R2 B R2 L' D F2 D' U B' R2
11. 10.26 U R' B' U B2 D' B2 F2 R2 F2 U L2 D F' D U2 L D2 U' R'
12. 11.48 B R2 D R2 U' B2 D' U' B2 U' L2 R2 B U B F2 R' D L2 F2

Generated By csTimer on 2022-11-22
avg of 12: 11.99

Time List:
1. 10.92 F R' B' D2 R2 F' L2 U2 B R2 U2 R2 F2 R2 U' L R' D B' U B
2. 12.42 U2 B2 L2 D U2 F2 U2 R2 B2 U' L2 U' F' D2 R' U F R2 F D' R'
3. 11.22 U2 F2 D B2 L2 F2 U2 R2 F2 D L2 U F' L2 R' B' F2 R' D2 B2
4. (15.89) D2 B' D2 B R2 F' D2 R2 B' L2 F' R2 D' R2 D L D' R2 U L2 B'
5. (9.52) U F U2 L2 B L2 B D2 F2 L2 F' U2 F2 U' F2 U' R B2 L2 D2 B'
6. 13.12 U L F2 R' B2 U2 B2 L' D2 L' D2 L' D' L' U' R' B' F' R' D L2
7. 11.13 B2 D' F2 D2 B2 D L2 F2 U2 F2 U' B' D L U L' U' F' R B U'
8. 11.02 F2 L2 B2 U' R2 D' F2 D2 B2 D' B2 F' U' B D' F2 R F2 U2 B' R
9. 12.35 B2 U L2 U' B2 L2 U R2 U' B2 L2 B' L D2 B2 D' F' R' D2 F2
10. 10.25 U R' U2 D' L2 F' R2 F' U2 F2 R' U2 R2 D2 L2 F2 R D2 F2
11. 14.44+ L F' R2 D2 L' U2 L U2 B2 D2 U2 L B2 L' D L B U R2 F2 L'
12. 13.02 F D B2 D' R B L B2 R2 D2 L2 U' B2 R2 U' L2 D' F2 U2 L

Both my sitting and standing times weren't great because I've spent the last couple of days learning 5x5. But even then, I think the familiarity of solving sitting helped me get locked in to each of my sitting solves. Whereas for the standing solves, the mix of having to bend down to pick the cube up, and then to put it down and stop the stackmat made it really odd and definitely lead to me not being super locked into some of these solves. Makes me wonder if I should practice in some different positions to learn how to solve uncomfortable.