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Rate your cubes! (survey)

Cride5

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Instructions

Simiar idea to this thread, but focused on cube ratings. For each puzzle you own, rate according to the following out of 10.

Smoothness/Speed:
Lockup Resistance:
Cutting Corners:
Pop Resistance:
Quietness:
Reliability:
Overall:

NOTE: For Quietness 10 = Silent
NOTE2: For Overall, rate your general overall feeling on the cube, rather than an average of the previous scores.
NOTE3: Don't worry about rating a cube which has already been rated, the more ratings the better...

The plan is to collect all the data together, to get an average score for each puzzle. If there's enough information it will give us some nice objective info to compare each cube...

This information is now being used for puzzle ratings on the Wiki. Add here if you want a puzzle rated on the Wiki.


Update: 11/01/10...

Aggregated Ratings

All puzzles with 4 or more ratings are summarised below...


2x2x2
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Eastsheen 2x2x2 - 8 ratings
Smoothness/Speed: 8.75
Lockup Resistance: 5.88
Cutting Corners: 3.88
Pop Resistance: 10.0
Quietness: 7.0
Reliability: 8.25
Overall: 8.25


LanLan 2x2x2 - 6 ratings
Smoothness/Speed: 9.0
Lockup Resistance: 9.2
Cutting Corners: 8.33
Pop Resistance: 9.29
Quietness: 6.5
Reliability: 9.29
Overall: 9.0


3x3x3
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Type A-I (Old) - 8 ratings
Smoothness/Speed: 6.38
Lockup Resistance: 7.81
Cutting Corners: 8.06
Pop Resistance: 5.75
Quietness: 7.31
Reliability: 6.63
Overall: 6.81


Type A-II - 4 ratings
Smoothness/Speed: 8.25
Lockup Resistance: 6.63
Cutting Corners: 7.75
Pop Resistance: 7.0
Quietness: 3.25
Reliability: 8.25
Overall: 8.18


Type C-I - 10 ratings
Smoothness/Speed: 9.05
Lockup Resistance: 7.4
Cutting Corners: 8.15
Pop Resistance: 8.15
Quietness: 5.9
Reliability: 8.6
Overall: 8.75


Type C-II - 5 ratings
Smoothness/Speed: 9.1
Lockup Resistance: 9.1
Cutting Corners: 8.3
Pop Resistance: 8.1
Quietness: 7.0
Reliability: 9.2
Overall: 8.82


Mini-C - 4 ratings
Smoothness/Speed: 8.75
Lockup Resistance: 7.88
Cutting Corners: 7.63
Pop Resistance: 9.13
Quietness: 6
Reliability: 7.5
Overall: 8.5


Type D - 4 ratings
Smoothness/Speed: 8.38
Lockup Resistance: 6.38
Cutting Corners: 6.38
Pop Resistance: 5.0
Quietness: 4.5
Reliability: 6.0
Overall: 6.63


Type E (Diensheng) - 6 ratings
Smoothness/Speed: 9.25
Lockup Resistance: 5.5
Cutting Corners: 5.83
Pop Resistance: 9.33
Quietness: 5.0
Reliability: 8.25
Overall: 7.33


Mini Diensheng - 5 ratings
Smoothness/Speed: 9.2
Lockup Resistance: 6.8
Cutting Corners: 6.2
Pop Resistance: 8.64
Quietness: 7.16
Reliability: 8.2
Overall: 8.5


Type F-I - 6 ratings
Smoothness/Speed: 9
Lockup Resistance: 8.67
Cutting Corners: 8.0
Pop Resistance: 7.8
Quietness: 7.08
Reliability: 7.5
Overall: 8.45


Type F-II - 10 ratings
Smoothness/Speed: 9.3
Lockup Resistance: 8.6
Cutting Corners: 8.7
Pop Resistance: 8.85
Quietness: 7.1
Reliability: 8.8
Overall: 9.27


C4U DIY - 12 ratings
Smoothness/Speed: 8.25
Lockup Resistance: 7.17
Cutting Corners: 7.83
Pop Resistance: 7.33
Quietness: 5.46
Reliability: 8.17
Overall: 8.26


Ghost Hands - 9 ratings
Smoothness/Speed: 8.94
Lockup Resistance: 7.75
Cutting Corners: 8.22
Pop Resistance: 9.22
Quietness: 8.94
Reliability: 8.89
Overall: 8.79


Rubik's (Storebought) - 12 ratings
Smoothness/Speed: 8.08
Lockup Resistance: 5.67
Cutting Corners: 5.92
Pop Resistance: 9.5
Quietness: 7.08
Reliability: 8.5
Overall: 7.9


Rubik's DIY - 7 ratings
Smoothness/Speed: 8.71
Lockup Resistance: 8.0
Cutting Corners: 7.86
Pop Resistance: 7.29
Quietness: 6.86
Reliability: 7.71
Overall: 8.4


Storebought (Generic) - 9 ratings
Smoothness/Speed: 8.04
Lockup Resistance: 6.26
Cutting Corners: 6.06
Pop Resistance: 8.56
Quietness: 5.35
Reliability: 6.98
Overall: 6.75


Hybrids (Combined) - 9 ratings
Smoothness/Speed: 9.06
Lockup Resistance: 7.89
Cutting Corners: 8.5
Pop Resistance: 7.56
Quietness: 6.56
Reliability: 8.89
Overall: 8.76

NOTE: This is not a single cube,
but is added to illustrate how
they are generally perceived
in relation to standard cubes.


4x4x4
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Rubik's Revenge - 5 ratings
Smoothness/Speed: 6.8
Lockup Resistance: 3.8
Cutting Corners: 2.4
Pop Resistance: 2.8
Quietness: 5.4
Reliability: 4.0
Overall: 3.87


Eastsheen 4x4x4 - 6 ratings
Smoothness/Speed: 8.83
Lockup Resistance: 5.67
Cutting Corners: 3.17
Pop Resistance: 8.83
Quietness: 7.92
Reliability: 7.67
Overall: 7.5


QJ - 5 ratings
Smoothness/Speed: 9.4
Lockup Resistance: 8.6
Cutting Corners: 8.4
Pop Resistance: 8.7
Quietness: 7.4
Reliability: 4.5
Overall: 8.7


5x5x5
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Rubik's Professor - 4 ratings
Smoothness/Speed: 5.63
Lockup Resistance: 3.38
Cutting Corners: 3.81
Pop Resistance: 6.94
Quietness: 3.5
Reliability: 5.06
Overall: 5.19


Eastsheen - 6 ratings
Smoothness/Speed: 9.5
Lockup Resistance: 4.83
Cutting Corners: 3.5
Pop Resistance: 8.5
Quietness: 7.75
Reliability: 7.17
Overall: 7.44


Vcube 5 - 10 ratings
Smoothness/Speed: 8.55
Lockup Resistance: 9.05
Cutting Corners: 9.25
Pop Resistance: 9.29
Quietness: 7.5
Reliability: 9.67
Overall: 9.0




Puzzle Weights

I was going to put weight in the survey, but there's not really much point since its basically a fact, not an opinion. Here are the weights of all my puzzles. If you have other puzzles (and a set of scales) let me know the weight .. this info will eventually be added to the wiki ;)

Mini 2x2x2: 9g
ES 2x2x2: 63g
Mini C: 69g
Ghost Hands: 81g
Sq-1 (brand unknown): 82g
Diansheng: 84g
Puzl.co.uk Speedcube: 92g
Type C: 95g
Joy: 98g
Pyraminx (not sure of brand): 99g
C4Y DIY: 104g
Type A: 106g
ES 4x4x4: 110g
Edison: 115g - heavier than my 4x4!
ES 5x5x5: 120g
Puzl.co.uk Megaminx: 171g
V-Cube 6x6x6: 306g
V-Cube 7x7x7: 315g
 
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Also the tension of the cube will GREATLY affect many of these results, as will the turning style of the individual. There are just too many variables to get results that are objective or remotely close to accurate. I think sticking to a few commonly agreed upon characteristics (e.g. Type C has good fast turning, but poor corner cutting and is prone to locks) for each cube would be better.
 
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Purple C4U brand cube - Main speedcube. I have 2 of those and 2 of them waiting to be selled. I'm happy with it. Not for OH though.
Smoothness/Speed: 8
Lockup Resistance: 8
Cutting Corners: 7
Pop Resistance: 10
Quietness: 5 but I want those cool-sound cubes :D
Reliability:9
Overall: 8.5 :)

White type C - Got this for free. I really like this cube as an OH cube. When I didn't have the c4u then it was my speedcube.. Now I use it as OH because it popped too much in 2H. Now it moves well and.. NICE!
Smoothness/Speed: 8
Lockup Resistance: 7
Cutting Corners: 7
Pop Resistance: omg :D On 2H it would be 2 but on OH it's 9
Quietness: 8 pretty much silent
Reliability: 8
Overall: 8

Old type A - bad cube.. slow and sticky. petroleum jelly killed it. But it was prettymuch bad before.
Smoothness/Speed: 1
Lockup Resistance: 5
Cutting Corners: 5
Pop Resistance: 0 (it popped inside the bus frame)
Quietness: 6 it's so slow that it can't make much sounds.
Reliability: 4
Overall: 4

1981 cube :) - Yeah..
Smoothness/Speed: 1
Lockup Resistance: 1
Cutting Corners: 1
Pop Resistance: 1
Quietness: 1
Reliability: 1
Overall: 0
:D
 
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Broken in, sanded, lubed etc. storebougt my only cube for now, so im happy

smoothness:7
resistance to lockup:7
corner cutting:8-9
resistance to pops:10
quietness:5
reliability: 9
overall:8, thats pretty good
 
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Ghost Hand(prior to breaking in)
Smoothness/Speed:10
Lockup Resistance:9.25
Cutting Corners:9
Pop Resistance:10
Quietness:11
Reliability:9
Overall:9-10

After Breaking In, or about 600 solves, lubricating, adjusting tensions to preference and everything
Smoothness/Speed: 9
Lockup Resistance:8.25
Cutting Corners:8
Pop Resistance:9 The pops happen only when other inexperienced cubers turn it. I guess it was designed only for fingertricks
Quietness:8-9.5 (because of how fast you turn)
Reliability:8.5-10
Overall:8.75

So, as you adjust it to your options, it becomes slightly worse, but manageable.


Famwealth
Smoothness/Speed:10
Lockup Resistance:2
Cutting Corners:1.5
Pop Resistance:10
Quietness:-10
Reliability:4
Overall:3
Worse cube known to man, it came in a set I bought(eastsheen) and was at first a good cube. afterwards, it was just horrendous. I spent 6 seconds just on a lockup. Grrr.. Glad that I have my ghost hand now <3
 
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3x3 DIY type a II in black
Smoothness/Speed: 6/10
Lockup Resistance: 4/10
Cutting Corners: 10/10 - Can cut nearly a full piece
Pop Resistance: 6/10
Quietness: 5/10
Reliability: 6/10
Overall: 6.2/10

ES 2x2 black
Smoothness/Speed: 6/10
Lockup Resistance: 2/10
Cutting Corners: 1/10
Pop Resistance: 10/10
Quietness: 6/10
Reliability: 5/10
Overall: 5/10

3x3 Storebought (just got yesterday)
Smoothness/Speed: 10/10
Lockup Resistance: 6/10
Cutting Corners: 3/10
Pop Resistance: 10/10
Quietness: 2/10
Reliability: 7/10
Overall: 6.3/10

V-cube 5 white
Smoothness/Speed: 10/10
Lockup Resistance: 10/10
Cutting Corners: 10/10
Pop Resistance: 10/10
Quietness: 10/10
Reliability: 10/10
Overall: 10/10

V-cube 6 white (A bit of the pi mod done, 2 pieces glued, and 12 inner wedges sanded a bit)
Smoothness/Speed: 9/10 (No clicking except for on one of the 3 layer turns)
Lockup Resistance: 5/10
Cutting Corners: 9/10 (Can cut nearly a full piece)
Pop Resistance: 4/10
Quietness: 10/10
Reliability: 4/10
Overall: 6.8/10

V-cube 7 white
Smoothness/Speed: 10/10
Lockup Resistance: 10/10
Cutting Corners: 10/10 (Can easily cut 1 1/2 pieces)
Pop Resistance: 5/10
Quietness: 7/10
Reliability: 10/10
Overall: 8.7/10

Rubik's brand 5x5
Smoothness/Speed: 1/10
Lockup Resistance: 1/10
Cutting Corners: 1/10
Pop Resistance: 10/10
Quietness: 1/10
Reliability: 1/10
Overall: 2.5/10

MF8 Square-1 black
Smoothness/Speed: 8/10
Lockup Resistance: 10/10
Cutting Corners: 3/10
Pop Resistance: 4/10
Quietness: 10/10 (Silent.)
Reliability: 7/10
Overall: 7/10

Chinese megaminx (1 side modded with the pi mod)
Smoothness/Speed: 2/10
Lockup Resistance: 1/10
Cutting Corners: 5/10
Pop Resistance: 9/10
Quietness: 1/10
Reliability: 1/10 (Tiles always come off)
Overall: 3.2/10

Mefferts PET labelled skewb black
Smoothness/Speed: 10/10
Lockup Resistance: 10/10
Cutting Corners: 1/10
Pop Resistance: 8/10
Quietness: 5/10
Reliability: 9/10
Overall: 7.2/10

Super square-1 black
Smoothness/Speed: 10/10
Lockup Resistance: 1/10
Cutting Corners: 1/10
Pop Resistance: 10/10
Quietness: 10/10
Reliability: 5/10
Overall: 6.2/10

Void cube white
Smoothness/Speed: 10/10
Lockup Resistance: 1/10
Cutting Corners: 1/10
Pop Resistance: 10/10
Quietness: 10/10
Reliability: 5/10
Overall: 6.2/10

3x3 from 1981
Smoothness/Speed: 1/10
Lockup Resistance: 1/10
Cutting Corners: 1/10
Pop Resistance: 1/10
Quietness: 1/10
Reliability: 1/10
Overall: 1/10
 

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Cheers for your ratings so far, much appreciated :)

How will this be objective if it's different people rating different cubes?
The more folk respond about a particular cube, the better a sample of information we will get. You're correct in that opinion is never really 'objective', even when aggregated. I should have chosen my words more carefully :rolleyes: The goal of this survey is to find the consensus of the masses on particular cubes and their characteristics. The idea is that in most cases, the opinion of the masses provides a better measure than the opinion of a randomly chosen individual - despite what it says in sig ;)

Also the tension of the cube will GREATLY affect many of these results, as will the turning style of the individual. There are just too many variables to get results that are objective or remotely close to accurate. I think sticking to a few commonly agreed upon characteristics (e.g. Type C has good fast turning, but poor corner cutting and is prone to locks) for each cube would be better.
Being an opinion poll, the objective is to find general opinion of the masses on each cube. With this goal in mind, the accuracy is solely defined by the number of responses.

With regards to the issue of how the owner has set-up the cube. If we suppose there are 100 folk using the type-C, all at different tensions (affecting the behavior of the cube), then aggregating the results will tell us the characteristics of the cube at the average tension used by respondents. For example, suppose folk using a really high tension report 10/10 for pop resistance, but then folk using a really loose cube report 6/10 for pop resistance, then its reasonable to conclude that average tension results in 8/10 for pop resistance.
 
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Rubik's Storebought 3x3

Smoothness/Speed: 8 (extremely smooth, but speed lags a little)
Lockup Resistance: 6 (not good, but not bad)
Cutting Corners: 2 (lol, it's a storebought)
Pop Resistance: 10 (along with corner cutting, this cube is very tight)
Quietness: 9 (can barely hear it while solving)
Reliability: 8 (consistent but too tight)
Overall: 8 (if only I could loosen it just a bit)


White Cube4You 3x3 DIY

Smoothness/Speed: 9 (not as smooth, but faster)
Lockup Resistance: 8 (better...)
Cutting Corners: 10 (springs ftw)
Pop Resistance: 6 (not too many yet)
Quietness: 4 (meh, doesn't matter that much I guess)
Reliability: 9 (I really like this cube)
Overall: 10 (my only diy, so it's a big jump from the rubik's)


White Eastsheen 5x5

Smoothness/Speed: 10 (woah! Slow down a bit...)
Lockup Resistance: 4 (almost)
Cutting Corners: 3 (fail)
Pop Resistance: 10 (has never popped)
Quietness: 9 (well, there's hardly any friction going on in there)
Reliability: 8 (while I'm actually solving it, it's a good cube)
Overall: 8 (fun cube, good quality, gets looser though)

I have other cubes, but these are my main ones.
 
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Here's how I rate my favourite 3x3x3s:

DIY Type C (turns amazingly well, let down by lock-ups and poor reliability)
Smoothness/Speed:10
Lockup Resistance:5
Cutting Corners:9
Pop Resistance:8
Quietness:0
Reliability:5
Overall:9

Mini Type C (fantastic wee cube - tempted to use it in comp!)
Smoothness/Speed:10
Lockup Resistance:6
Cutting Corners:8
Pop Resistance:9
Quietness:4
Reliability:5
Overall:9

Edison (my quiet cube)
Smoothness/Speed:8
Lockup Resistance:6
Cutting Corners:7
Pop Resistance:10
Quietness:9
Reliability:10
Overall:9

Ghost Hands
Smoothness/Speed:8
Lockup Resistance:6
Cutting Corners:7
Pop Resistance:9
Quietness:8
Reliability:8
Overall:8

DIY Type A (white)
Smoothness/Speed:8
Lockup Resistance:8
Cutting Corners:10
Pop Resistance:9
Quietness:6
Reliability:9
Overall:8

Diansheng
Smoothness/Speed:10
Lockup Resistance:7
Cutting Corners:6
Pop Resistance:10
Quietness:4
Reliability:9
Overall:8

Joy Cube (feels like a type C, but lockier)
Smoothness/Speed:8
Lockup Resistance:4
Cutting Corners:7
Pop Resistance:10
Quietness:3
Reliability:9
Overall:7

C4U DIY
Smoothness/Speed:8
Lockup Resistance:4
Cutting Corners:7
Pop Resistance:8
Quietness:4
Reliability:8
Overall:7

Puzl.co.uk Speedcube
Smoothness/Speed:6
Lockup Resistance:5
Cutting Corners:7
Pop Resistance:5
Quietness:8
Reliability:7
Overall:6


... and some more cubes...

Black ES 2x2x2
Smoothness/Speed:9
Lockup Resistance:7
Cutting Corners:2
Pop Resistance:10
Quietness:7
Reliability:9
Overall:9

Black Eastsheen 4x4x4
Smoothness/Speed:9
Lockup Resistance:5
Cutting Corners:3
Pop Resistance:8
Quietness:7
Reliability:9
Overall:7

Black Eastsheen 5x5x5
Smoothness/Speed:9
Lockup Resistance:4
Cutting Corners:4
Pop Resistance:8
Quietness:7
Reliability:9
Overall:7

Don't worry about adding ratings for cubes which have already been rated. The more ratings, the better the final result :D
 
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3x3x3 Storebought (Rubik's) lubed with vaseline and cleaned out (main cube):
Smoothness/Speed: 8/10
Lockup Resistance: 5/10
Cutting Corners: 4/10
Pop Resistance: 10/10
Quietness: 6/10
Reliability: 10/10
Overall: 8/10

Black Eastsheen 4x4x4 from borders:
Smoothness/Speed: 10/10
Lockup Resistance: 7/10
Cutting Corners: 1/10
Pop Resistance: 10/10
Quietness: 9/10
Reliability: 10/10
Overall: 9/10
 
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why do people rate type Cs so low?

Type C DIY:
Smoothness/Speed : 10/10
Lockup Resistance : 9.5/10
Cutting Corners : 10/10
Pop Resistance : 9/10
Quietness : 10/10 (loudest type I have ever used but I don't care)
Reliability : 10/10
Overall : 10/10
 

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<..>
Quietness : 10/10 (loudest type I have ever used but I don't care)
<..>
That makes absolutely no sense. It's "loudest type you have ever used" but you still rate it 10 in terms of being quiet.
does being quiet make it a faster cube? nope. the noise doesn't bother me. maybe I like it.
NOTE: For Quietness 10 = Silent
Don't worry about rating a cube poorly for some aspect which you don't care about. In fact, if its something you don't rate feel free to omit it all together.

Being a loud cube doesn't necessarily mean it should affect your overall score for it. Remember, your overall score is personal to you, and what cube characteristics you find important. Its not simply the average of all previous scores. Something like:

Smoothness/Speed:10
Lockup Resistance:3
Cutting Corners:2
Pop Resistance:3
Quietness:1
Reliability:0
Overall:10

.. is totally acceptable :)
 
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