Random Cubing Discussion

[Athefre]

I learned heise

D2 B' D2 L B D2 B' L' F' B' D2 L B' D' R' D R U2 R D R L U2 B' F

y2FR2UR
DBUB'U2z2
LR'FRL'UL'U'L y'RU'R'
B2D2F2
xL'ULU'R'UL'U'Lx'
D2B2U2L'

38 moves

Lately I've been using ZZ with the Heise two pair, three corner ending because I got tired of memorizing and forgetting sequences. I only use RUL after EOLine, even for the edge, pair, and corner cycles. The whole solve is too easy except, not that I solve for speed, sometimes I find it difficult to create the second pair without a long pause. Yeah, I could do an edge cycle if the corner I want to use is oriented, but I would rather not.

 

[Kirjava]

D L D' B' U' R U2 F U' F R' B F' R D B2 R F2 U B' L' B' L' U' B2

8.98 with a 1 sec lockup

L'FL2x'yU'RUR'U'
L'UR2U'R'UrM'U'R
U2MUM2U2M'U'M2U2M2

27 moves

 

[Cubenovice]

WTF speed FMC...

 

[Kirjava]

CLL+1Edge -> L3E is kinda like OLLCP for CLL

it's a basic version of my idea for a 1LLL system that requires few algs ^_^

 

[abctoshiro]

Throwing out an idea here:

My wtf method:

EO
middle layer edges (not necessarily solved)
CO (uhm, if i don't know the an alg to orient the corners, i randomly do r2 U/U'/U2)
1 look separation (jacube)
parity (R2 U2 R2 or M2 U2 M2)
PBL (jaacube again)

not fast, inefficient, just pure fun playing around with my cube.

 

[irontwig]

CLL+1Edge -> L3E is kinda like OLLCP for CLL

it's a basic version of my idea for a 1LLL system that requires few algs ^_^

It's like Snyder's approach, but with a edge cycle rather than corner cycle in the end. Actually I thought about ways to avoid the flip+3-cycle ELLs the other day.

 

[uberCuber]

Scramble with cross color on bottom: L2 R2 B2 L2 R F' U' B U' F2 U2 D R2 D' R U D' L' F2 U B' U' D2 B' R

U2 L2 U F L B R D' L
y2 U R' F2 R L' F L' F' L F2
U R' F R2 U R' U' F2 U F
U2 R U R' U R U r' F R' F' r
41 moves

that was cool

 

[qqwref]

...How did you see that?

 

[Weston]

I can do this in my head (without the piano).
Seems possible to get fast at, but I don't think I'll switch.
Basically assign one note of a scale to each corner.
If you wanted, you could also use a chromatic scale to have more notes (13 instead of 8, maybe for edges?) but then it gets very atonal and hard to remember.

 

[riffz]

Yea, I tried that out before. It'd probably work well, but in combination with my auditory edges memo it didn't fit for me.

 

[Athefre]

This may be me being stupid and I've somehow looked over this the last five years. I noticed that instead of writing "last slot", "last pair", "FR+DFR pair", or "UF+UFL pair", you can write dFR or lFU.

 

[ahmedkl]

I am sub-35 , When i solve cube infront of people i kinda feel weird and usually i solve some like 5-10sec slow . I know i lack confidence but still you feel the pressure when so many people come and see you

 

[qqwref]

This may be me being stupid and I've somehow looked over this the last five years. I noticed that instead of writing "last slot", "last pair", "FR+DFR pair", or "UF+UFL pair", you can write dFR or lFU.

Hm, I guess you could. I'd probably confuse it with wing notation though.

 

[Athefre]

Hm, I guess you could. I'd probably confuse it with wing notation though.

I hadn't thought of that. But, it should be easy to tell from context whether someone is talking about 3x3 or big cubes.

 

[riffz]

I've always just heard people refer to it at FR pair, FL pair, etc. Seems simple enough already.

 

[Kirjava]

Anyone have any ideas for a CLL+1 system? Anything I think up isn't viable for one reason or another.

The only thing that is simple and doesn't require a billion algs is using a different system for each CLL case.

Would work, but it's a lot to work out for something I'm not going to use outside of FreeFOP.

 

[uberCuber]

...How did you see that?

don't worry it wasn't a speedsolve

I was trying out some...for lack of a better name, non-Petrus/Heise-speedsolve-method-based FMC, and that was an awesome result that I got

 

[Athefre]

I've always just heard people refer to it at FR pair, FL pair, etc. Seems simple enough already.

I've found it strange saying that because "FR Pair" could mean either "FR+DFR" or "FR+UFR". It's not so bad with CFOP, but when you're naming pairs in methods like Heise or describing a new step, it's confusing.

 

[Kynit]

What's the maximum optimal movecount for a first 5x5 center? Has anyone ever done calculations about this?

 

[uberCuber]

What's the maximum optimal movecount for a first 5x5 center? Has anyone ever done calculations about this?

I haven't seen any movecount analysis for bigcubes, I would be interested in this too if anyone knows about anything like this.