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Race to 15/15 multi-BLD

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Hi,
I would enjoy a "Race to 15/15 multi-BLD" and thought others would too.

Hence, I offer to organize a race to sub-60:00 15/15.

For people passionate by multi, you know how engaging this event is, emotionally and mentally. There is those down times and it tooks determination and perseverance to be good at it. Intense and sustained efforts often end with not-very-motivating results. I wish such a race could give us some motivation and fun to keep going.

Rules: To be a "winner" one should sub-60:00 15/15. In order to monitor progress and make it more interresting, there is 1 round per week in best-of-2 format (you can just do one attempt of course). Use provided scrambles. No time limit, round ranking is points then times (like the old multi rules). Feel free to attempt less than 15 cubes, but report it to have proper points calculation (10/10 = 10 points, but 10/15 = 5 points).

Starts/ends on friday.

Have fun :)

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Round 1 results
Round 2 results
Round 3 results
Round 4 results
Round 5 results
Round 6 results
Round 7 results
Round 8 results
Round 9 results
Round 10 results
Round 11 results
Round 12 results
Round 13 results
Round 14 results
Round 15 results
Round 16 results
Round 17 results
Round 18 results
Round 19 results

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Round 20 scrambles:

Attempt #1
1) R' L2 U' R2 L' F D' R D' R2 F R2 D2 L B L B R D2 B' D2 B L' F2 B'
2) L F D2 F' B U' R U2 L' F B2 L D2 U' F R2 L2 F' U2 R' L U L F D'
3) F2 D2 L' D2 B F U R F2 B2 L' D' R F U' B' D2 F2 L B' R D2 B F' D'
4) U2 D2 R' U' R2 B2 R' B2 L B2 D' U2 L2 F U R' B2 L' U' F2 U' L' U' L2 U
5) R U' F' R B2 U2 F2 B' R2 B R' L' B' L' F2 B2 D2 L B' R2 B2 U F U2 R
6) U2 F2 U2 D' R2 U2 F2 B' R' U R' U D2 B2 U L2 F2 L2 U D L D' L' R2 D'
7) B' U D2 F L' B U2 B R L B2 R' L U2 F2 B2 R' D2 L' B2 U2 R2 D U2 F'
8) L2 F2 B R2 B' L2 R F2 L' U' R2 L F U' R' F2 D2 L' D R2 L U2 D' B' R2
9) B' U' F2 L2 U' F L' B2 D' F' R' U D R F U R' L' D' R2 L2 B2 F D' U
10) R' B2 D' R' U' B2 D B' L D L' B2 R B' F' R' D2 L D R U' B R2 B U2
11) L' U2 R' D' U2 L F L D2 F L R F L' B' R D' B R2 U' R' U2 B' U2 F2
12) R2 F' R F' L2 F U' L B2 F2 R' D L R2 F' R U F' L U2 F' L' U F U2
13) L2 U L R D2 L D2 F B R D' F L' D2 F U2 R' D' L R2 F' U D R2 U
14) R U2 B2 D R D2 F2 U F R D' R2 F L2 B L2 F2 B' L' F2 L2 F2 R U2 D2
15) F' U D' R' D2 F' D R' D B' D R L' D' L2 D B2 F2 D2 F' B L R D U2

Attempt #2
1) B' U L F2 L2 R2 F R2 L' U L2 U D2 F U2 B F L' U' B' R' U2 B' F2 D
2) L' F2 U' L R2 B' U2 D2 B' D' L' B' U' R B2 R2 D R' D2 R2 L2 D F2 R L2
3) F' L' F2 B' R2 D' U2 L2 R D B' U' L D F U' F B U' D2 F' U R B2 R
4) U2 F B L' R2 D' U2 B2 D2 B2 R2 B2 F' L' F2 L F2 R2 D L2 D B D' B R2
5) D B2 L' R D' L' F2 D U2 F B R U' B2 R' U' B U F R' D2 R' F' U D2
6) F2 B D' F D2 L' R2 U' D F2 L F' U' B U' B U' R B2 F2 R' F2 L U2 B2
7) B2 R' F2 U' L F2 U' B R' L' F2 D' F L' U D2 L' B2 D U' B' D2 L' F R'
8) U2 B L2 F2 U2 R L' D2 F2 R B D' F D2 B2 R' B2 L' D2 U2 R2 L' U2 F2 D'
9) F2 B2 D F2 U' L' B U' F' D2 U' B2 L2 U D' B R L2 D' U' F U B' L2 U'
10) F2 L' R' B2 L2 F2 U2 L2 U' F2 B2 L' U' R D' B R' D B2 U D' B L U' F2
11) F' L2 B' F2 L' D2 B R2 L B' L' D U' R2 L' D' U F R F2 B L R B R2
12) L U2 D2 F D' U2 L R U2 L' B2 F2 R2 U2 D F2 L2 F B' L D2 U' R2 B' D
13) F2 L F2 D F2 U2 B2 R L U' R2 U2 R B F R2 D2 F L' B2 D B D' R' D2
14) B R D' L B U2 D' L2 F B' R2 U B D2 R F U' F' U D' L U2 F2 L F2
15) D2 F2 D' R' L F R' B' L U2 B F2 U2 R F' R2 U' D2 R' D B' D U2 R2 D
 
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How do we progress in the race? Does everybody have to start with 15 cubes and slowly get their times to sub-60? Or just try as many cubes under sub-60 and try to get to 15? I suppose it's the latter, but either way you should just provide 15 scrambles for each round, I think that's how a race should be.
 

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This is a cool idea. Definitely provide 15 scrambles for each round. I think people should be allowed to get up to 15/15 in sub-hour however they want to, as long as the goal is to improve up to the point where you can do it. Perhaps each week/period you could rank people by their best effort in WCA terms, with points first and then time, but without an hour limit...
 

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I definitely want this race as fun as possible, but still as simple as possible. If I provide scrambles, it is just good for a single attempt over the given period. There is already the weekly comp that do it great.

What about monitoring progress with current PB of contenders? As soon as the PB is 15/15 (I mean a perfect score, not 15 points) the name is switch to the results list.
 

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Providing scrambles is making it simpler and more standardised. Wouldn't not providing scrambles be even more similar to any single attempt you do at home? Besides, it will be more fun to compare comments among each other like 'so many ****ing twisted pieces this week!' or 'I used a pretty cool trick on cube #4', etc

The way you put it, this thread will just become a 'List of people who have done 15/15' or 'List of multi BLD PBs', not really a race.
 

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Ok thanks for the feedback.

So it could be 15 scrambles per week. I am wondering how to rank each round. Should we rank as if all 15 cubes are always attempted (points = nb of solved cubes minus 15), with 60min cut off enforced?
 

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Should we rank as if all 15 cubes are always attempted (points = nb of solved cubes minus 15), with 60min cut off enforced?
Ranking as if 15 cubes were attempted will push away anyone who can't do 8/8 already, so that's not a good idea.
Having a 60 minute cutoff will push away anyone who can do 15/15 but not fast enough (since the goal is 15/15 sub60), so that's not a good idea either. For instance, 15/15 in 65 minutes would be pretty close to the goal.

Why not just let people do attempts at their own speed, and rank by points? If there are only 15 scrambles you can't attempt more than 15 cubes, so you can't do better than the "perfect score" of 15/15 with a time of under 60.
 

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This is a great idea. I've been planning at trying 10 cubes, which I think is my limit at the moment for a sub-hour multi, but I never get my thumb out of my posterior. This might motivate me more. :)

Personally I think 5 min/cube is pretty realistic, since I've done 6/7 in 33min, so if I just get used to more cubes, I'll be able to keep the memo speed up. I always lose focus/concentration after like 20min of memo which is my main problem.
 

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I'd say give 15 scrambles and let each one do as many as they wish. Then rank just like WCA, points then time.

Maybe making 60min as the limit is good too, to get us used to it.

Ok, I will put the scrambles now. There is a time limit to win the race. I just don't want to rank each round with the cutoff so to let people free to attempt all 15 cubes. So one doing 15/15 in 1h30 may win the round, but still not the race.
 

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Or maybe they can try 15 cubes and count the solved ones after 60min, just like official regulations. Or is that not the point?
If the race is to "15/15 in <=60 min", the time limit should be enforced.
So you can either try 7 cubes if you think you can do within an hour, or you can just memorise the 15 and solve as many as possible in that period. Then work you way up to all cubes solved.
 

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Yea, I thought about enforcing cutoff for round ranking. But it may be more popular to not, as pointed out by qqwref. And as multi-BLD is not very popular yet... That way people are free to progress in either direction: doing more cubes sub-60 or cutting time toward 1 hour. The point of the race is mostly to have fun and get some motivation.
 
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I'm starting to take BLD more seriously, so I might join in. Had my first 3 cube attempt a couple of days ago (2 solved, 1 with 2 flipped edges), so this will probably help motivate me. Need to sort out more routes though. Does anyone else attempting this have less than 15 3x3x3s? I may have to resort to using big cubes eventually, if I get that far.
 

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So I´ll start.

Round 1:
Attempt #1: 1/4 20:14.22 = 0
Attempt #2: 2/3 17:26.20 = 1


Multi-BLD is really hard, when you don´t use Letter Pairs and something like Roman Rooms. I still use visual corners and one edge = 1 Word.
 
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