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Quest to get sub 40 average on 3x3 with beginner CFOP!

Skewb_Cube

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here it is.
the time is 25.13 seconds
so can someone critique me?
As @Spacey10 said, you are hesitating on whether you should do a certain pair in a certain way or not. And also you're rotating to make and insert pairs and also lots of U moves to find pieces.

I think for now you just need lots of practice and that's it. because at your level you don't really need other techniques like look ahead and stuff, and it can result a bit overwheming right now.
 

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soooo i need help with a particular f2l caseScreenshot 2020-10-20 213819.jpg
note: im using intuitive f2l not advanced so dont go all alg-wise on me.
This is the one where if you do the alg the intuitive way, but when you do the alg for this to pair up the pairs, you get a flipped edge pair. I know how to avoid this but i dont know how to recognize this when im solving.
 

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soooo i need help with a particular f2l caseView attachment 13922
note: im using intuitive f2l not advanced so dont go all alg-wise on me.
This is the one where if you do the alg the intuitive way, but when you do the alg for this to pair up the pairs, you get a flipped edge pair. I know how to avoid this but i dont know how to recognize this when im solving.
Look at color on front and color on top. They must be different.
U2 R U R' U R U' R'
 

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soooo i need help with a particular f2l caseView attachment 13922
note: im using intuitive f2l not advanced so dont go all alg-wise on me.
This is the one where if you do the alg the intuitive way, but when you do the alg for this to pair up the pairs, you get a flipped edge pair. I know how to avoid this but i dont know how to recognize this when im solving.
If you look at the top color of the edge, you'll see it's red then the other color would be green so you take that green color of the edge towards it's corresponding center by doing U2 (this U move could vary depending on where the edge is located.) And then you do the alg @Spacey10 gave you, that goes like this: R U R' U R U' R'

You could also get this case except the green edge is on top and the red is on the side, so you would pretty much do the same except you probably will need to rotate to avoid F moves.
 

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soooo i need help with a particular f2l caseView attachment 13922
note: im using intuitive f2l not advanced so dont go all alg-wise on me.
This is the one where if you do the alg the intuitive way, but when you do the alg for this to pair up the pairs, you get a flipped edge pair. I know how to avoid this but i dont know how to recognize this when im solving.
You could start with @Spacey10’s alg with U2 R U R’, but then if you want to influence LL edges (basically if you are going to get a dot case) you can do R’ F R F’ (which would cancel into U2 R U R2 F R F’) at the end to orient the 2 edges that are above the F2L pair.
 

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Look at color on front and color on top. They must be different.
U2 R U R' U R U' R'
If you look at the top color of the edge, you'll see it's red then the other color would be green so you take that green color of the edge towards it's corresponding center by doing U2 (this U move could vary depending on where the edge is located.) And then you do the alg @Spacey10 gave you, that goes like this: R U R' U R U' R'

You could also get this case except the green edge is on top and the red is on the side, so you would pretty much do the same except you probably will need to rotate to avoid F moves.
You could start with @Spacey10’s alg with U2 R U R’, but then if you want to influence LL edges (basically if you are going to get a dot case) you can do R’ F R F’ (which would cancel into U2 R U R2 F R F’) at the end to orient the 2 edges that are above the F2L pair.
soo the rcog is when both of the pieces are different colors on top?
oh oof i posted the wrong case i mean the one when both of the colors are the same but thanks anyway.
 

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In that case, the alg is: y U2 L' U' L U' L' U

The last three moves can be change to an sledgehammer as @BenChristman1 mentioned. I also recommend to execute the 2 algs we gave you slowly so you see how the pieces pair up in this cases.
my right hand is dominant and i dont like rotations and also this one is shorter so i will use U' F' U2 F and then i will insert it either URUR or RFRF depending on the oll case.
only downside is that it takes out the back slot if its already solved so i have to move the edge.
 

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my right hand is dominant and i dont like rotations and also this one is shorter so i will use U' F' U2 F and then i will insert it either URUR or RFRF depending on the oll case.
only downside is that it takes out the back slot if its already solved so i have to move the edge.
Rotating isn't really bad at all, the thing is to not rotate too much, imo it's better to rotate instead of using F moves during F2L. And I think it's better for you to practice with your left hand because during F2L, the cross or in the last layer there are algs or just moves that require using L moves.
 

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Rotating isn't really bad at all, the thing is to not rotate too much, imo it's better to rotate instead of using F moves during F2L. And I think it's better for you to practice with your left hand because during F2L, the cross or in the last layer there are algs or just moves that require using L moves.
your right but rotating or using f moves are the same time so i just picked because i liked f moves.
your right about the l moves but im still gonna use the alg cause its very short and easy to execute.
 

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your right but rotating or using f moves are the same time so i just picked because i liked f moves.
your right about the l moves but im still gonna use the alg cause its very short and easy to execute.
But make sure to have the right fingertricks for those F moves or else it isn't going to be very good.
 

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funny you know the alg in beginners method that orients all the edges with the right color, its also a zbll alg when you have sune on top and the color edges are oriented

edit: stupid comment i see


anyway my f2l practice is not getting anywhere so thats probably where i hit the limit for me.
All im getting are either a 29 second f2l average or a 31, which averages about to 30 seconds which it takes me to do f2l.
I do around 10 second average with 4LLL so its gonna be hard to get sub 40 consistently but i can certainly get sub 50 easily.
im going to send a video of my f2l again because i dont know what to do, practice is not getting me anywhere.
edit: Ah yes the moment when you lose all hope only do your dreams come true
Screenshot 2020-10-21 162741.jpg
first sub 25 aO5 f2l

but i just prob got lucky i still need help

Screenshot 2020-10-21 164350.jpg
HAHA VERY FUNNY HOW DID I EVEN GET A 26 F2L a012
i guess that this is a sign of improvement never mind no videos
actually i will for the fun of it to see if i can get even more better
 
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funny you know the alg in beginners method that orients all the edges with the right color, its also a zbll alg when you have sune on top and the color edges are oriented

edit: stupid comment i see


anyway my f2l practice is not getting anywhere so thats probably where i hit the limit for me.
All im getting are either a 29 second f2l average or a 31, which averages about to 30 seconds which it takes me to do f2l.
I do around 10 second average with 4LLL so its gonna be hard to get sub 40 consistently but i can certainly get sub 50 easily.
im going to send a video of my f2l again because i dont know what to do, practice is not getting me anywhere.
edit: Ah yes the moment when you lose all hope only do your dreams come true
View attachment 13928
first sub 25 aO5 f2l

but i just prob got lucky i still need help

View attachment 13929
HAHA VERY FUNNY HOW DID I EVEN GET A 26 F2L a012
i guess that this is a sign of improvement never mind no videos
actually i will for the fun of it to see if i can get even more better

after the suprising results im am getting more and more better!
Screenshot 2020-10-24 123405.jpg
my f2l time is avg is getting better and better


Edit: I finally accomplished my f2l goal!
Screenshot 2020-10-24 164251.jpg
sub 25 ao5 and also sub 25 ao12 f2l.
 
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