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Quest to get sub 40 average on 3x3 with beginner CFOP!

Nir1213

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From personal experience I improve my cross by just doing untimed solves and used unlimited inspection to plan it, and this will also help you with your understanding of how pieces work and how to place them in certain places.

i make too much rotations but this helped me.


haha now im doing like sub 50 f2l solves getting there
by next morning i'll probably be around 40 seconds like before!
then after that i will learn f2l tricks to lower it even MORE
 
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i make too much rotations but this helped me.


haha now im doing like sub 50 f2l solves getting there
by next morning i'll probably be around 40 seconds like before!
then after that i will learn f2l tricks to lower it even MORE
Well, no. I'd say when your F2L takes 40 seconds, don't bother learning any extra tricks. Try getting it to 30 seconds first :)
 

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ok fine
i think i also need to lower my recog time for it too cause i take time in that

also my cross time is 9 seconds on avg is that good or do i need to lower it?
Ok yes you should. Try just sitting down, do handscrambles, and do a 50 solve session only cross. Have unlimited inspection time, by the time you are done you should be around 4 to 5 seconds.
 

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should i look ahead my cross?
If you are saying about look ahead in F2L and during cross, then you're not ready for that, that's more advanced things for people that are sub-25 (F2L look ahead) and for sub-20 or sub-15 (cross to F2L transition).

As @Spacey10 mentioned, just do handscrambles and practice your cross with unlimited inspection.
 
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i took a break for 2 days from cubing a bit and then just practiced and like whaaaat
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haha sub 40 gonn' be a breeze
assuming that i do an average on 15 seconds in 4LLL, which means i just might be able to get sub 40
or maybe i can improve my 4LLL
my cross was reduced to 7 seconds but i cant lower it anymore to 5 or 6 seconds tho anyway
 

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i took a break for 2 days from cubing a bit and then just practiced and like whaaaat
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haha sub 40 gonn' be a breeze
assuming that i do an average on 15 seconds in 4LLL, which means i just might be able to get sub 40
or maybe i can improve my 4LLL
my cross was reduced to 7 seconds but i cant lower it anymore to 5 or 6 seconds tho anyway
:O lol almost sub 30!
 

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i took a break for 2 days from cubing a bit and then just practiced and like whaaaat
View attachment 13619
haha sub 40 gonn' be a breeze
assuming that i do an average on 15 seconds in 4LLL, which means i just might be able to get sub 40
or maybe i can improve my 4LLL
my cross was reduced to 7 seconds but i cant lower it anymore to 5 or 6 seconds tho anyway
That's something similar to what happened to me, I was averaging 16s but didn't really time my solves because I was working on colour neutrality and after 3 weeks suddenly I was sub-15.

Anyway, congrats!!!
 

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That's something similar to what happened to me, I was averaging 16s but didn't really time my solves because I was working on colour neutrality and after 3 weeks suddenly I was sub-15.

Anyway, congrats!!!
ive actually got my cross times down to 3 sec somehow, but i have a problem. I kinda go fast and then it takes me some time to recognize a case and i hesitate a bit, does that come down to practice or slow solving?
 

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ive actually got my cross times down to 3 sec somehow, but i have a problem. I kinda go fast and then it takes me some time to recognize a case and i hesitate a bit, does that come down to practice or slow solving?
Mostly I think slow solving, and then little by little, you speed up your turning speed. That's kinda like how you start learning how to look ahead. And that probably will reduce your pauses as it did to mine and probably to other people too.

Well, and also solves to get the cases and algs into your muscle memory.
 

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Mostly I think slow solving, and then little by little, you speed up your turning speed. That's kinda like how you start learning how to look ahead. And that probably will reduce your pauses as it did to mine and probably to other people too.

Well, and also solves to get the cases and algs into your muscle memory.
oh cool

now im averaging 35 seconds on f2l so i think the sub 30 average was me being lucky
i think my biggest problem is that when i finish my cross i look for my first corner and edge pair and it takes me a while, then i find the others super fast
basically im getting slow at first then i go fast
i need to balance it so i consistently can find my pairs and execute them properly.
so im practicing and i realized when i do my best i can only get around 30 - 32 seconds at best when i do full step intuitive f2l
i got lower before because i was lucky
so i guess thats my goal
i do 35 - 38 seconds right now.
 
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i took a break for 2 days from cubing a bit and then just practiced and like whaaaat
View attachment 13619
haha sub 40 gonn' be a breeze
assuming that i do an average on 15 seconds in 4LLL, which means i just might be able to get sub 40
or maybe i can improve my 4LLL
my cross was reduced to 7 seconds but i cant lower it anymore to 5 or 6 seconds tho anyway
woah
 
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