QiYi Clock or Shengshou?

[AhsanDaCuber125]

OK, I might get Clock.
If I did, my goal would be to be sub-8.
Which is the best on for that?

Can the Shengshou Clock perform well for sub-8, or is the QiYi a better choice?

I’m not planning on being master-dude at clock, but which one?

Thanks to the people who answer.

 

[Bingus cuber]

QIYI is MUCHHHHHHH better, especially if you want to get sub-8. Shengshou is ok if you just want to solve it once just to say you did, but if you want any speed at ALL, get the QIYI. It is expensive, but if you set it up, it is SO worth it.

 

[Skewby_Doo]

The QiYi is objectively better than the shengshou and it looks cool if you do the anders mod.

 

[Clock_Enthusiast]

If you're interested in getting more into clock, I'd go for the QiYi. Otherwise you're buying a Shengshou then upgrading to a QiYi. Sub-8 is one of the first big barriers, but the QiYi made it much easier and fun--it's pretty frustrating trying to get a Shengshou to cooperate at higher TPS.

 

[cuberswoop]

If you're interested in getting more into clock, I'd go for the QiYi. Otherwise you're buying a Shengshou then upgrading to a QiYi. Sub-8 is one of the first big barriers, but the QiYi made it much easier and fun--it's pretty frustrating trying to get a Shengshou to cooperate at higher TPS.

Kind of related to the thread: How much slower percentage wise does a shengshou make you? I've seen numbers thrown around (20-30% slower). Would you say that those numbers are accurate?

 

[Gecko777]

no debate. qiyi>shengshou clock

 

[Tabe]

Literally no one - no one - who cares about clock uses anything other than the Qiyi.

 

[qwr]

Kind of related to the thread: How much slower percentage wise does a shengshou make you? I've seen numbers thrown around (20-30% slower). Would you say that those numbers are accurate?

if you're fast, probably 100% or more

 

[Tabe]

if you're fast, probably 100% or more

That's literally not possible.

 

[Clock_Enthusiast]

Kind of related to the thread: How much slower percentage wise does a shengshou make you? I've seen numbers thrown around (20-30% slower). Would you say that those numbers are accurate?

I think there are many, many variables. People have gotten crazy times on Rubik’s Brands—multiple sub-4 singles have been done officially with a Rubik’s. However, all of these are very heavily modded. Magnet mods were developed for the Shengshou, but it was very quickly outcompeted by the QiYi. From owning four different clock brands, the thing that makes QiYi stand out is the effortless turning. Performing solves on any brand but the QiYi takes a lot more exertion, meaning that different parts of the hands will need to utilize more force in short periods of time (this is very similar to how one might describe a regrip on other puzzles). When you can leave your hands steady in one position, turns can be executed consecutively with far smoother transitions.

Quantifying this could be difficult. You could get fast time with either if you’re serious into clock, but you’ll get a lot more fast (and consistently fast) times with more stable hardware. I’m actually curious to test this now. I don’t have a Shengshou at school with me, but I do have a Rubik’s (not set up very well, but also not horrible).

There are many ways to set up a QiYi—some people like speedy “clicky” ones, others like a “gummy” feel. Turning style can be optimized differently for everyone, but the QiYi allows your hands to keep up with your brain. Also, PINS are 9000% better on the QiYi are than any other brand. They basically require no effort to push (as demonstrated by the plethora of past DNFs for accidental pin state changes).

TLDR: Less hand movement and force = smoother transitions before turns and better focus on recognition.

 

[UncleFrank]

If you try to use a Shengshou clock, you'll end up hating clock and will never want to do clock again.

 

[qwr]

That's literally not possible.

100% faster isn't possible, but 100% slower is.